Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: White male privilege theory is a sham


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: White male privilege theory is a sham Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3 4 5   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 6:38:17 AM   
vincentML


Posts: 9980
Joined: 10/31/2009
Status: offline
quote:

RM suggested that a person of color being denied access to a bathroom in this day and age was a leftist fantasy. And it is.

I appreciate that you are able to muster a civil and thoughtful response but RM is presenting a straw man; nobody has made such a claim. However, here in the States we have even more serious problems of blue/black conflicts which have been debated in this forum. RM's comment trivializes our current issues with his whiny victimhood. So, if all is well in your racial paradise just exactly what is his burden?

quote:

Aboriginals are often caught between two cultures, but the issue of Aboriginal land rights in Australia has been handled significantly better than in the USA with enormous swathes of land being returned to the traditional owners.

That may be true but not until the late 60s and 70s after Aboriginal protests that were concurrent with the Civil Rights Movement here in the States. So, don't pat yourself on the back too vigorously.

I will grant that the current oil pipeline protest by the South Dakota Sioux highlights the abysmal record we have of mistreating our own indigenous people. So, it has nothing to do with fictional white guilt. There is plenty afoot here that calls for seriously real white guilt and puts to shame RM's pathetic and obsessive sissy-man self-victimizing. He needs to man-up and play the cards he has; bet, raise or fold them. Otherwise he should stfu. He provides a pitiful representation of manhood.

quote:

Successful civilisations are built on blood, because human beings compete for resources. That's the ugly truth. . [SNIP] . . Those unthinking morons who are part of the victim-hood industry can shove their white guilt squarely up their historically-uneducated, philosophically-ignorant fucking asses.

Yeah so, history rides in the saddle of our current events (to steal a line) and the previously oppressed are competing for today's resources and power. The globalization of capital and labor mitigate terribly against the old, blue color labor force, which seems totally unprepared and so gathers around a false, carrot-headed messiah. The incessant lamenting or denial about the new order of things is not going to prevent the change. People who cannot recognize the change and adapt to it are doomed to lives of desperate bitching and moaning and growing old in mean spirits.





< Message edited by vincentML -- 10/30/2016 6:39:52 AM >

_____________________________

vML

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ~ MLK Jr.

(in reply to Awareness)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 7:25:39 AM   
WhoreMods


Posts: 10691
Joined: 5/6/2016
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML
The incessant lamenting or denial about the new order of things is not going to prevent the change. People who cannot recognize the change and adapt to it are doomed to lives of desperate bitching and moaning and growing old in mean spirits.

Looked at like that, rm's ahead of the curve then.

I wonder if that makes him a sort of hipster of the whiney bitch movement? He'll get bragging rights in a decade about how he was playing victim before it became fashionable...

_____________________________

On the level and looking for a square deal.

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 9:42:09 AM   
LadyPact


Posts: 32566
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: respectmen

LadyPact


quote:

You don't "feel" it because it's always been there.


Says the lefty fairies in fantasy world.

Would you be calling me a leftist again? You know that always makes me giggle. You'd have to think my positions on firearms and criminal sentencing alone wouldn't put me in that category, but it's cute.

quote:

When was the last time you got pulled over for 'driving while white'?


quote:

How can you exactly prove if a cop pulls a person over for being black or for being any race or gender? You can't, it's impossible. So therefore, this is based on assumption, not fact. To assume that a person is being evil based on their race (being a white cop) is racist within its self as you would not assume that with a black cop pulling over a white person.

OK. First, you've obviously never lived in a place like Baltimore. I don't know how much coverage the Freddie Gray case got in your part of the world, but it certainly put a big, huge spotlight on police vrs people of color here. This isn't exactly a 'new' thing in America. You really just don't hear things about white guys getting pulled over in Harlem because they are in the wrong neighborhood.

quote:

I've felt like that I've been unfairly singled out by police before. I think everyone from every background has in their life. The only PROVEN racism I see here are the ones assuming a cop is evil based on their whiteness.

We're probably going to have to agree to disagree on this one based solely on your lack of exposure to some of the things that happen in the US. (I'm not saying that as a bad thing. I don't know what happens in your local neighborhood, either.)

quote:

When was the last time you were told you couldn't use a bathroom at a department store?


quote:

In my generation and in the country I live, I've never seen in my whole life a person of colour being rejected to take a piss or dump based on their skin colour. Is this another lefty fantasy like the one above? If it happened elsewhere and not in my life time, how can that make me privileged again?

You wanted to make part of this about gender. I obliged.

Do you know that we have a law in North Carolina that very specifically says you must use public restrooms based on the gender that is on your identification? Doesn't effect most people who are cis, but it's a big f*ck you to the trans* community. This puts some people in a heck of a predicament for at least a good two years because that's the minimum amount of time you have to live, full time as the gender you are transitioning to before CRS will be done. If you don't like that one, I'll give you something different.

MP and I do two or three road trips to other states since the time we moved out of Alaska. Visiting friends, family, or sometimes, we're going to something in another state that's kink related. MP has a very specific habit during said road trips when we pull into rest stops. He really does wait for me to come out of any ladies room to make sure I'm safe. Something most men don't even give a concern about, unless they have it imprinted in their head about what used to happen back in the eighties when "rolling people" was a thing.

quote:

When was the last time you went to a job interview, and based on your appearance, the interviewer had a preconceived notion that you would take more days off than the other applicants?


quote:

Based on appearance? Can you explain this more?

Surprised I have to, considering it's something you've said often. Women, especially women who are in a certain age group, are automatically assumed to take more days off from work than their male counterparts. Not because they get sick, but because their children get sick. Keep something in mind. I've mentioned numerous times that I've done HR. There for about a year, I hired and fired people for a living. Even I would tell you that, if you are female, don't mention your children in an interview.

quote:

When was the last time that you were walking down the street, and had to question holding hands with your lover?


quote:

Is this about sexual orientation rather than gender and race?

Yep. You've been very loud on several threads that you want to skip sexual orientation as a privilege. Don't you think it's at least worth considering?

quote:

When was the last time you took your car in for service and the mechanic treated you differently based on your gender?


quote:

Last time I checked, people from every gender and race have been fucked over by mechanics. I did last year by a lot. My previous next door neighbour who was also white male fell victim to the same mechanic. Mechanics who are dishonest usually talk to you and try to figure how much you know about cars by talking to you. They will act all nice and have general conservation while in the meantime thinking how they can fuck you over.

Don't know if you have this particular franchise there. Here, we have joints called "Jiffy Lube". I don't know if I could find the link, but they were featured in some investigative reports across the country about women treated differently than men, especially when it came to the tactic commonly known as 'up-selling'. You came for an oil change? Great? Let our service representative tell you why you need your radiator flushed, your transmission fluid done, and let me tell you what's wrong with your brakes. Funny, in a way.

quote:

People from any gender or race get taken for a ride all the time. Don't be pathetic and only claim its considerable when it happens to women.

Let's do a little experiment. By now, you should know I'm a person of my word. Ask MP sometime where I worked the year before we became involved. When you do, I'm going to laugh so hard I'll probably piddle.

quote:

Some folks don't see "privilege" because it's like the air they breathe. It's been there and it's always been there. That chip on your shoulder clouds your vision.


quote:

And some folks just imagine privilege due to their own racism/sexism.

A couple of years ago, there was this really neat thing going around about privilege. I did a thread elsewhere about it, myself. I'd be happy to dig it up for you, if you are interested. I thought it was fascinating. Take a step forward if you had certain 'privileges' that other people don't have. (I think NookieNotes has the original link.) Stuff like did you have books while you were growing up in your home, do you have expectations of reasonable medical care, or, as peon said, can you walk outside in your neighborhood at night. Those things *are* privilege, whether you see them or not.

I'll tell you this last story. MP and I bought a new car recently. (MP's been bugging me for years to let him buy me a new car. I'm one of those women who say, that car runs just fine. We are now one of those 'obnoxious' American couples who own more vehicles than we could ever drive simultaneously.) I haven't even put 500 miles on it yet.

In America, if you buy the 'next year's model' car, it's going to come with a sh^tton of bells and whistles. We're 'affluent' enough to afford them. Even knowing what kind of car I wanted before I ever walked into the show room, I knew the extras that I wanted.

Want to know the 'extra' that sold MP? On-Star. You know, that service where you push a button and they send people to your location?

Biggest selling point of this service is, "if you are ever in an accident". And, when that selling point came up, we were treated like a couple. Secondary selling point? "If you are ever being followed". It was very clear which one of us that comment was directed to. The one of us that has boobs.






_____________________________

The crowned Diva of Destruction. ~ ExT

Beach Ball Sized Lady Nuts. ~ TWD

Happily dating a new submissive. It's official. I've named him engie.

Please do not send me email here. Unless I know you, I will delete the email unread

(in reply to respectmen)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:01:19 AM   
Awareness


Posts: 3918
Joined: 9/8/2010
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

RM suggested that a person of color being denied access to a bathroom in this day and age was a leftist fantasy. And it is.

I appreciate that you are able to muster a civil and thoughtful response but RM is presenting a straw man; nobody has made such a claim.
Lucy made the claim, which is what he was responding to. To whit:

quote:

When was the last time you were told you couldn't use a bathroom at a department store?


quote:

However, here in the States we have even more serious problems of blue/black conflicts which have been debated in this forum. RM's comment trivializes our current issues with his whiny victimhood. So, if all is well in your racial paradise just exactly what is his burden?
Australia has conflicts and there are significant issues around aboriginal deaths in custody. It's not a racial paradise, nor would I make that claim - however white privilege is definitely not something you feel in Australia. Australia is incredibly multicultural and most people I know grew up with kids from half a dozen or more races in their classroom.

quote:


That may be true but not until the late 60s and 70s after Aboriginal protests that were concurrent with the Civil Rights Movement here in the States. So, don't pat yourself on the back too vigorously.
Of course. And I don't necessarily buy all the arguments for restitution, but Australia does appear to be treading a middle ground between absurd levels of white guilt on one hand and simply rolling over the natives on the other. It's a rarity because generally speaking, conquerors don't tend to give back enormous tracts of land to the conquered.

quote:

I will grant that the current oil pipeline protest by the South Dakota Sioux highlights the abysmal record we have of mistreating our own indigenous people. So, it has nothing to do with fictional white guilt. There is plenty afoot here that calls for seriously real white guilt and puts to shame RM's pathetic and obsessive sissy-man self-victimizing. He needs to man-up and play the cards he has; bet, raise or fold them. Otherwise he should stfu. He provides a pitiful representation of manhood.
One could say the same of feminists who perpetually whine about not having enough advantages. Despite white women being astonishingly privileged, they're advocating for more privilege because vagina. RM doesn't buy that argument and neither do I.

quote:


Yeah so, history rides in the saddle of our current events (to steal a line) and the previously oppressed are competing for today's resources and power. The globalization of capital and labor mitigate terribly against the old, blue color labor force, which seems totally unprepared and so gathers around a false, carrot-headed messiah. The incessant lamenting or denial about the new order of things is not going to prevent the change. People who cannot recognize the change and adapt to it are doomed to lives of desperate bitching and moaning and growing old in mean spirits.
Contempt for the working class is the fatal mistake of the leftist bourgeoisie. Blue collar workers are the backbone of this country, because somebody's got to the dirty jobs that you and effete pseudo-intellectuals like Peon don't want to do. The undermining of workers wages began with the introduction of women into the workforce, with the result that families had roughly the same income but corporations now had two people working for them instead of one - and as a result, the state could begin to indoctrinate the children at an earlier age because parents no longer had sufficient time for their children.

The problem here is massive unchecked corporatisation. Corporations have been granted person-hood by law, but corporate behaviour is exactly that of a psychopath. Fear and greed are the two motivations of a corporation and the people behind corporate malfeasance are never brought to justice. There's a reason why corporations produce unsafe products, products which kills people and are constantly engaged in law suits designed to disadvantage their customers - because it's to their advantage to do so. The tame politicians like Clinton are complicit in this and happily make things worse while feathering their own nest.

People vote for Trump for legitimate reasons which relate to feeling abandoned by those who promised repeatedly to protect them and represent their interests. Support for Trump is an expression of the rage felt by those who've been used and tossed aside, by the continual drops in wages - even as productivity goes up.

Dismissing those who support Trump as "bad people" is an example of the mean-spirited arrogance of the left. It's spiteful and it's weak. I think Trump would be a terrible President, but I'm not so much of a cunt that I'll simply label my political opponents as "defective" or "deplorables" and be done with it. That's the identity politics of the left in action and I'll have no fucking part of it, because I at least make an effort to be honest.

The frothing insanity trotted out by leftists such as Peon, Lucy and others is a crystal-clear example of why Clinton is having such a rough time against an opponent which Bernie Sanders would have ground into the dirt. The regressive left have their heads planted firmly up their asses while they tell themselves how superior they are to people whose concerns, hopes and fears cause them to vote for Trump. Voting for Trump doesn't mean you're a racist and it's only weak-minded fools who tell themselves otherwise.

_____________________________

Ever notice how fucking annoying most signatures are? - Yes, I do appreciate the irony.

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:07:43 AM   
Wayward5oul


Posts: 3314
Joined: 11/9/2014
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML
The incessant lamenting or denial about the new order of things is not going to prevent the change. People who cannot recognize the change and adapt to it are doomed to lives of desperate bitching and moaning and growing old in mean spirits.


And it has always been this way. Times change, civilizations change. Anyone who thinks that the way things are during any specific time are they way it will always be are holding beliefs that fly in the face of history.

What we are experiencing is a normal progression, and 100 years from now it will be seen as just one part of a larger progression in civilization.

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:14:55 AM   
WickedsDesire


Posts: 9362
Joined: 11/4/2015
Status: offline 		I am neither white or black, no-one is. But you are alluding to the reason I am sitting in my hovel an utter pauper is down to jews and Asian men…they have my money, you say, and the very reason my bathtub is not made of solid gold. You’ve given me food for thought. Tis why, if I could,I would vote gropey-predatory-bankrupt frighty hair man. The man is a veritable beacon on non entitlement.

(in reply to Wayward5oul)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:21:28 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

RM suggested that a person of color being denied access to a bathroom in this day and age was a leftist fantasy. And it is.

I appreciate that you are able to muster a civil and thoughtful response but RM is presenting a straw man; nobody has made such a claim.
Lucy made the claim, which is what he was responding to. To whit:

quote:

When was the last time you were told you couldn't use a bathroom at a department store?


You are a lying pig

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Awareness)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:34:48 AM   
Awareness


Posts: 3918
Joined: 9/8/2010
Status: offline 		LP, I also neglected to mention that you don't feel "white" in Australia. You simply are.

Over here... I fucking KNOW I'm white. I mean, I live in a white on white state. It's peaceful, everyone has access to guns, it apparently has a huge drug problem and I almost never hear a siren.

However, I know if I get pulled over, I'm probably not going to get shot. I mean, I can be - cops have shot unarmed white people who were minding their own business - but the chances are lower. They're also even lower if I get out my driver's license and registration and place it on the dashboard, then keep my hands firmly on the steering wheel as the cop approaches so he can see my hands.

However, the police officer knows that if I'm white, I have a significantly lower chance of being a perpetrator and if I have my wife and daughter in the car, I'm really unlikely to start any kind of altercation that might risk them being hurt.

On the other hand, if he pulls over a car with four African-American men in their late teens or early 20's, they have a higher risk of being involved in criminal activity, they probably have a bad attitude with regard to cops, they're probably armed and they're all competing for dominance which means they're prepared to risk taking a shot at a cop.

This dichotomy does not exist in Australia. Our police are armed but police officers being shot is major news because it simply doesn't happen all that often. The list of Australian Federal Police who have been killed in the line of duty has ELEVEN names on it, and two of those were killed in a plane crash. Police in the state of Victoria have had a total of 157 officers who've died in the line of duty - over a period of 180 years.

In all, I'd estimate less than 1000 Australian police officers have died in the line of duty in Australia's 230 year history. In contrast, the US has seen 1466 police deaths during the past ten years alone.

And why does this happen? Well, guns. Duh. In contrast, Australian police also don't kill as often as US police do. In fact Australian police kill less people in 20 years than US police do in one month.

Bottom line? When it comes to law enforcement, "white privilege" is simply a consequence of probability. African Americans commit crime at higher rates, they kill people at higher rates and they're more likely to be a danger to a police officer than a white guy with a family. That doesn't justify all police action and there are systemic issues within the police force, but let's not pretend that the African American community is innocent, because they're not. There are internal cultural issues which definitely need to be rectified.




_____________________________

Ever notice how fucking annoying most signatures are? - Yes, I do appreciate the irony.

(in reply to LadyPact)
Profile   Post #: 28
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:35:24 AM   
MercTech


Posts: 3706
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

You don't "feel" it because it's always been there.

When was the last time you got pulled over for 'driving while white'?

About two weeks ago. Actually it was for being a white guy driving a large vehicle with out of state plates - drug smuggler profile.
quote:



When was the last time you were told you couldn't use a bathroom at a department store?

Absolutely never as I just follow the signs that say "Restroom" in the U.S. and "Washroom" in Canada. You may have time jumped to the 1960s if you think major department stores are going to deny a customer use of facilities unless you look like unwashed, homeless, non customers. Now if you are talking a small boutique store where the bathroom is out of the public space in the stock room... it is ALWAYS a study in pleading to be allowed to use the sanitary facilities in such places.
quote:


When was the last time you went to a job interview, and based on your appearance, the interviewer had a preconceived notion that you would take more days off than the other applicants?

At my last job interview about a month ago. Being over 50 means you are going to be sick much more often don't ya know.
quote:



When was the last time that you were walking down the street, and had to question holding hands with your lover?


The last time I was walking down the street with my lover wearing my uniform. Blatant shows of infection while in uniform are considered contrary to good military discipline.

quote:



When was the last time you took your car in for service and the mechanic treated you differently based on your gender?


Based on gender, no. Based on age, yes. Condescending asshole started millenialsplaining how the computer in the vehicle worked. I finally got disgusted and left him with corrected diagrams and a list of command codes to open the re-programming interface so you can shift between performance programming and mileage programming. I think his mouth was open so far he drooled on his shoes.

quote:



Some folks don't see "privilege" because it's like the air they breathe. It's been there and it's always been there. That chip on your shoulder clouds your vision.




And many don't see their special privileges and keep insisting they are oppressed even when they have large numbers of legally driven special privileges.

(in reply to LadyPact)
Profile   Post #: 29
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:35:54 AM   
Awareness


Posts: 3918
Joined: 9/8/2010
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

RM suggested that a person of color being denied access to a bathroom in this day and age was a leftist fantasy. And it is.

I appreciate that you are able to muster a civil and thoughtful response but RM is presenting a straw man; nobody has made such a claim.
Lucy made the claim, which is what he was responding to. To whit:

quote:

When was the last time you were told you couldn't use a bathroom at a department store?


You are a lying pig
My apologies. LadyPact made the claim, I misread the screen name.


_____________________________

Ever notice how fucking annoying most signatures are? - Yes, I do appreciate the irony.

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 30
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:44:41 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
quote:

One could say the same of feminists who perpetually whine about not having enough advantages. Despite white women being astonishingly privileged, they're advocating for more privilege because vagina. RM doesn't buy that argument and neither do I.



Hmmmmmm really... post http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4904955
From respectmen

I responded with http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4910059
and explained it to Dizzy on http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4910165
but you still felt the need to say
quote:

White women are essentially the most privileged, over-indulged, spoilt girl-children in the world. And yet, you still find things to whine about. Unbelievable.

Then in this post
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4910547
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

The misogynists just don't want to admit or they are too fucking thick to realise that their attitudes is exactly that!

It's the misogynists who are totalitarians. It's the misogynists who show extreme controlling behaviour. It's the misogynists who uses violence against others who disagree. It's the misogynists who bans others from universities from having different opinions. It's the misogynists who will try to disturb and stop any conference or speech that isn't kowtowing their repulsive ideology.

The misogynists just don't want to admit it that they are the real fucking fascists. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

I have extreme passionate hate for people on the right for these behaviours that I just mentioned above. These people are fucking deranged. They are the ruination of western civilization. The west wont remain the best for long with misogynistsists around shitting all over the place as they enforce privileges for men and majority groups and totally discriminating the fuck out of white women.

misogynistsists fuckwit freaks shout the loudest about anti feminism, and racism, but total fucking irony, more than anything, it's them who are the most sexist and racist as they go on with their anti female hating bigoted bullshit. Blaming females for all the woes in the world. Blaming one demographic of people based on gender and race for all the woes in the world is nothing more than extreme hate.

These people are repulsive, disgusting, hypocritical, controlling, lying ,dirtbags that should get laughed at out of existence.
Wow, damaged much?

White women are essentially the most privileged, over-indulged, spoilt girl-children in the world. And yet, you still find things to whine about. Unbelievable.




As I mentioned in an later post, no, this was one of Nicks posts with the "genders" and terms(Feminism and Misogynist replaced.).




_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 31
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 10:54:03 AM   
Awareness


Posts: 3918
Joined: 9/8/2010
Status: offline 		And that proves what exactly? That a description applied to a political ideology DOESN'T apply to an imaginary group which does not exist? Well, fucking duh. I don't know what you think you accomplished there except demonstrating the limits of your own intelligence.

Christ, this is boring.

_____________________________

Ever notice how fucking annoying most signatures are? - Yes, I do appreciate the irony.

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 32
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 11:04:58 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline 		then get offline and tend toyour life
PS your apology accepted.

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Awareness)
Profile   Post #: 33
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 12:54:28 PM   
vincentML


Posts: 9980
Joined: 10/31/2009
Status: offline
quote:

Australia is incredibly multicultural

Maybe so but it is not all that simple. There has been considerable criticism and resistance from Aussie rightist. Also, you can't compare it to the US situation where there are long land borders and a history of mass in-tansport of slaves from Africa.

quote:

Despite white women being astonishingly privileged, they're advocating for more privilege because vagina.

Simplistic. Not all white women are privileged and not all women are white.

quote:

Blue collar workers are the backbone of this country,

Blue collar workers were the backbone of this country. Those jobs are gone to new automation and to other nations.

quote:

Somebody's got to the dirty jobs that you and effete pseudo-intellectuals

I don't feel the need to defend my blue collar scion credentials.

quote:

The undermining of workers wages began with the introduction of women into the workforce, with the result that families had roughly the same income but corporations now had two people working for them instead of one

Wrong. Women have been in the workplace since the Lowells recruited them from the farms to the mills in 1820 Massachusetts promising them Christian education and then exploiting them with long hours of work. They have been in and out of the workplace with varying numbers especially following the wars of 1861, 1917, and 1941. Their numbers have swollen since the 1960s with the opening of new industries. They are not at fault for the wage stagnation. they currently lack parity in leadership roles in business and government jobs. They do have parity in management so their rise to power jobs is probably inevitable.

quote:

The problem here is massive unchecked corporatisation. Corporations have been granted person-hood by law, but corporate behaviour is exactly that of a psychopath. Fear and greed are the two motivations of a corporation and the people behind corporate malfeasance are never brought to justice.

Agreed.

quote:

Support for Trump is an expression of the rage felt by those who've been used and tossed aside, by the continual drops in wages - even as productivity goes up.

There are populists revolutions around the world. It is not an American phenomenon . . .Venezuela, Greece, Brexit . . and more brewing. They don't have a very good record of success. Admittedly a small sample here.

quote:

Bernie Sanders would have ground into the dirt.

I doubt Bernie would have been able to govern. I would say the same for Hillary and Trump. The fissure between the populist GOP and the corporate GOP is a serious stumbling block to governance.



_____________________________

vML

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ~ MLK Jr.

(in reply to Awareness)
Profile   Post #: 34
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 3:26:51 PM   
respectmen


Posts: 2042
Joined: 8/28/2015
Status: offline
quote:

He needs to man-up and play the cards he has; bet, raise or fold them. Otherwise he should stfu. He provides a pitiful representation of manhood.


Really? Because I don't believe white men have this imaginary invisible privilege like you fucking idiotic stupid leftist loons keep claiming? Because I don't believe the whole white male population should be placed in shame and blame for what a minority of the white male population has done? Because I don't believe that every fucking white male on the planet should be labelled as "privileged" simply because people can point to the elite top 1 percent of white males and talk about their privilege? Because I'm against feminists discriminating and demonising men?


Me as a white male, I'm perfectly entitled to fucking complain about this utterly disgusting attitude people have against my kind.

What I quoted from you, you are basically telling me that a man is all these things simply for standing up for himself. A male is expected to be spineless and turn the other cheek or else he's......add the million things the leftists and feminists say.

In other words, a white male is expected to just take it and never defend or stand up for himself or else he's considered "weak" if he does.

The bigotry that comes from you people is fucking laughable.

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 35
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 4:50:20 PM   
tamaka


Posts: 5079
Status: offline 		Would you want to wake up, look in the mirror and be anything other than a white male? If yes, why? If no, why not?

(in reply to respectmen)
Profile   Post #: 36
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 5:12:29 PM   
PeonForHer


Posts: 19612
Joined: 9/27/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Would you want to wake up, look in the mirror and be anything other than a white male? If yes, why? If no, why not?


*That* is a good question.

My answer would be 'Yes'. Any day.

_____________________________

http://www.domme-chronicles.com


(in reply to tamaka)
Profile   Post #: 37
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 5:23:37 PM   
tamaka


Posts: 5079
Status: offline 		You would want to be something other than a white male?

(in reply to PeonForHer)
Profile   Post #: 38
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 5:47:55 PM   
respectmen


Posts: 2042
Joined: 8/28/2015
Status: offline 		tamaka, I personally wouldn't want to be anyone else but my self. Not even another white male who is a billionaire. I'm used to being me, myself, being in my body, and I would never change that no matter what.

You think life is all great being a white male, try being one for a day. You get used as a multi-purpose scapegoat for the woes of others and society thinks you're aren't entitled to stand up for your self and have your say simply because less than 1 percent of the white male population are uber privileged and a minority of white men have done wrong in the past.

If you are a victim of anything, violent crime, rape, a natural disaster, discrimination, society will sympathise and do more for the opposite sex compared to you being a white male. While not receiving this support that you are entitled to as women are, as a white male, you get told that you are privileged so shut up.

Society thinks the wage gap is considerable when it comes to gender but not when it comes to race (asian men out earn white men) Society thinks the gap with punishments in the justice system is considerable when its against blacks while not finding it considerable when the gap gives women privileges.

Glass ceiling, always talked about. Glass cellar, never talked about.

Society is allowed to take your job away based on being white and male. It's totally illegal to do that to anyone else.

I'm sure you will love this video.

I love my white male privilege!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TU50Bz3Ey0

(in reply to tamaka)
Profile   Post #: 39
RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 10/30/2016 5:51:16 PM   
PeonForHer


Posts: 19612
Joined: 9/27/2008
Status: offline
quote:

You would want to be something other than a white male?


Sorry - that should have been a 'no'. It's late here - I misread your line.

_____________________________

http://www.domme-chronicles.com


(in reply to tamaka)
Profile   Post #: 40
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2] 3 4 5   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: White male privilege theory is a sham Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3 4 5   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.109