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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 3:11:06 AM   
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I was just being politically incorrect. Why aren't you happy? That's the way the world should be, isn't it?

Being politically incorrect isn't about throwing a tantrum.
It's about explaining things as it is the way it exactly is. Without peppering it.
It's like saying "illegal immigration is crime"
Then the left would say, "Saying that is racist!"

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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 3:42:44 AM   
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I was just being politically incorrect. Why aren't you happy? That's the way the world should be, isn't it?


It's about explaining things as it is the way it exactly is.


Which is exactly what I did in my first post. Which is why you found objection to it. Not enough fantasy infantile BS for your taste, so you insisted on inserting your own.

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Being politically incorrect isn't about throwing a tantrum.


Does that make you feel better? That's so cute.

Maybe being politically incorrect isn't about tantrums, maybe it is. There are certainly enough people who do that all the time about even having any foreign language come to their ears at all.

But one indelible truth about you and your anti-PC crowd is that you completely make shit up all the time; about what others say, what they do, what they supposedly think, etc., completely twist and distort others' words just as you distort reality, all for purpose of whining and complaining and stamping feet.
And please quit acting like you give a shit about society at all, you're not fooling anyone. Your only interest in society is Wide World of Wrestling-style politics, the hyper-drama, etc. just for your entertainment. That's fine if that's your taste, but don't be surprised if not everyone appreciates your trying to sling that crap into every otherwise meaningful discussion.

There's your explanation, exactly the way it is.


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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 3:45:49 AM   
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But one indelible truth about you and your anti-PC crowd is that you completely make shit up all the time; about what others say, what they do, what they supposedly think, etc., completely twist and distort others' words just as you distort reality, all for purpose of whining and complaining and stamping feet.

This is the typical left spew though, as in, accuse the right of doing precisely what they are doing themselves.
I can bring up a simple example.
Trump says: Mexico send in their rapists and murderers
Left says: Trump hates all Mexicans and call them all rapists and murderers

That whole statement is precisely what left media has been doing for this entire election.

Politically incorrectness is saying things as it is. Not falsifying things.

The one who always reacts in insults from disagreements of opinions, in this forum seem to come from frequently from left leaning posters most of the time. As a trend.

And I have posted a pew poll that results are hillary supporters are more intolerant of differences than trump supporters.

And yet they accuse Trump of that problem.


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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 4:00:09 AM   
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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 4:26:30 AM   
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But one indelible truth about you and your anti-PC crowd is that you completely make shit up all the time; about what others say, what they do, what they supposedly think, etc., completely twist and distort others' words just as you distort reality, all for purpose of whining and complaining and stamping feet.


This is the typical left spew though,


I'm not left. So there's one example of what I said. I'm sure there's more to come.

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This is the typical left spew though, as in, accuse the right of doing precisely what they are doing themselves.
I can bring up a simple example.
Trump says: Mexico send in their rapists and murderers
Left says: Trump hates all Mexicans and call them all rapists and murderers


Did Trump say 'some who migrate are rapists and murderers'? Did he say something like 'most of them come here to work, which we can see, but a few of them are rapists and murderers'? No? No, he said "They send their rapists and murderers", and in standard English, that means rapists and murderers are all that come. That's how both smart and not so smart people would take it, the difference being that those paying attention know it's BS and the not so smart believe it.

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Left says: Trump hates all Mexicans and call them all rapists and murderers
That whole statement is precisely what left media has been doing for this entire election.


Reporting facts that interfere with fantasy, that makes them leftist media. Got it.

BTW, the media never said "Trump hates Mexicans," that's you making shit up. See what I mean? The second half of the quote was true, you even said so yourself, but it still pisses you off the media reported it. See what I mean?.

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The one who always reacts in insults from disagreements of opinions, in this forum seem to come from frequently from left leaning posters most of the time. As a trend.


Ankle biters get kicked sometimes, sorry. Anyway, it's not from disagreement of opinion, it's disagreement with blatant stupidity. Genuine opinion requires at least a modicum of logical thought process, which believe it or not, is different than just making shit up.




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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 4:44:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sorry to disillusion you Greta but it has been proven that if Trump's lips are moving there is a 72% chance that he is lying (28% for HRC and 29% for Bernie), so don't talk about PC being telling the truth, it isn't, it's about saying whatever the hell you like without regard for its accuracy or other people's feelings.

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But one indelible truth about you and your anti-PC crowd is that you completely make shit up all the time; about what others say, what they do, what they supposedly think, etc., completely twist and distort others' words just as you distort reality, all for purpose of whining and complaining and stamping feet.

This is the typical left spew though, as in, accuse the right of doing precisely what they are doing themselves.
I can bring up a simple example.
Trump says: Mexico send in their rapists and murderers
Left says: Trump hates all Mexicans and call them all rapists and murderers

That whole statement is precisely what left media has been doing for this entire election.

Politically incorrectness is saying things as it is. Not falsifying things.

The one who always reacts in insults from disagreements of opinions, in this forum seem to come from frequently from left leaning posters most of the time. As a trend.

And I have posted a pew poll that results are hillary supporters are more intolerant of differences than trump supporters.

And yet they accuse Trump of that problem.



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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 5:05:25 AM   
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Did Trump say 'some who migrate are rapists and murderers'? Did he say something like 'most of them come here to work, which we can see, but a few of them are rapists and murderers'? No? No, he said "They send their rapists and murderers", and in standard English, that means rapists and murderers are all that come. That's how both smart and not so smart people would take it, the difference being that those paying attention know it's BS and the not so smart believe it.

If at least 50% of Americans who do speak the same standard English as you, understand it as not all mexican are rapists and murderers. Then clearly it is not a English comprehension issue, but simply left deliberate spinning of manipulating his words. I personally understand it as, if Mexico send in all their murderers and rapist to the US, and Mexico still has how many multi million people left in there? That's alot of Mexicans who are not rapists and murderers left in Mexico. Thus he isn't saying all Mexicans are rapists and murderers. And on top of that, when he was talking about it, he was talking about it in the context of illegal mexicans coming in which Mexico themselves did not bother to regulate their own border, because they don't care if their criminals get into the US.
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BTW, the media never said "Trump hates Mexicans," that's you making shit up.

The media called Trump a racist for the Mexican statement. A racist is someone who hates other races. Thus what I said was accurate.


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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 5:08:27 AM   
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I'm sorry to disillusion you Greta but it has been proven that if Trump's lips are moving there is a 72% chance that he is lying (28% for HRC and 29% for Bernie), so don't talk about PC being telling the truth, it isn't, it's about saying whatever the hell you like without regard for its accuracy or other people's feelings.

Based on leftish fact check sources that also say that Obama birth father is not a Muslim, and rate that as a false rumour. When it was Obama HIMSELF who claim his birth father is a Muslim.
Yea, I read those sites and like, their conclusion is ridiculous. Like when something is true, they rate it as a lie. Lots of eye rolling when I read those.

Take for example, if they are to fact check, "Did trump really call ALL mexicans rapists and murderers."

Their answer would be Yes. When it's not true.


I got this from another forum and I think this person explains what the big problem with mainstream left media better than I can! And he is explaining why it is the mainstream media fault that people voted Trump.

The mainstream media did thier best to make Clinton look like the second coming of Christ. They blatantly ignored allegations and even proof of corruption and failed policies. Trying to get them to discuss it on any mainstream media outlet was like pulling teeth, many times even going as far as to abruptly cut off the discussion or news feed. This backfired big time as we all know, because those allegations and failed policies were still there, and Clinton's (and her supporters) constant refusal to acknowledge and address them honestly, led to an enormous distrust held by many of the American People.

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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 5:24:22 AM   
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Did Trump say 'some who migrate are rapists and murderers'? Did he say something like 'most of them come here to work, which we can see, but a few of them are rapists and murderers'? No? No, he said "They send their rapists and murderers", and in standard English, that means rapists and murderers are all that come. That's how both smart and not so smart people would take it, the difference being that those paying attention know it's BS and the not so smart believe it.

If at least 50% of Americans who do speak the same standard English as you, understand it as not all mexican are rapists and murderers. Then clearly it is not a English comprehension issue, but simply left deliberate spinning of manipulating his words.


First you try to 'correct' me from your distant location about what I see in front of me with my own eyes, then claim you know the history of my own country better than I who live and was educated here does, and now, again from Singapore, you claim to know English better than I do.

This from someone who is so effing stupid she asked "how come no Spanish on NY voting machines" when the pic YOU posted said plainly; "Nueva York" and "del 2016." And too stupid to understand that when the same alphabet is used there is no issue in recognizing and distinguishing names, whether pronounced correctly or not. You can't understand even the simplest and most obvious answer when it's staring you in the face, and you propose to dispute others?

And regardless of how some might have interpreted it otherwise, the point is that Trump very calculatingly said what he did precisely the way he did because he knew that's what it literally meant and because he knew the dumbshits would take it literally -and believe it-. If he wanted to make sure he wasn't 'misunderstood' then he would have said "some of them" in the first place. But that was obviously not his intention.

Here we go:

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If at least 50% of Americans who do speak the same standard English as you, understand it as not all mexican are rapists and murderers.


Making shit up again.



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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 5:37:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jeez. ALL Americans know that not all Mexicans are rapists. Obviously. However you look at it though, to say what Trump said that day in June2015 after coming down the escalator WAS racist, as were his remarks about the judge overseeing the Trump University case. He IS a racist, no question of it. He is also a misogynist and Americans elected him, so what does that say about this nation....?

Oh, and as an English person living in the US, I can say categorically that Americans do not speak "Standard English". English people do.


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If at least 50% of Americans who do speak the same standard English as you, understand it as not all mexican are rapists and murderers.


Making shit up again.



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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 5:40:01 AM   
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Conspiracy and anti semitism, lovely

Remind you of anybody on here, Lucy?

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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 5:42:21 AM   
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I can say categorically that Americans do not speak "Standard English". English people do.


Understood.

Not every sentence displays the distinction, I figure if the American version doesn't fall astray from standard in a given sentence it might be allowed to refer to it as such. I think the interpretation spoken of would match up in any case. I could be wrong.

PS

I edited the previous post for further explication of Trump's statement regarding his intention.



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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 10:35:13 PM   
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Pretty sure if he goes, he will renounce. I'll have to tell him to use the reason "scared of terrorism" because if he says taxes he will be persona non grata.

We are not all that stupid. What's more he invited me there but I am not so sure I would like it there. The Italians here (other ones) treat me pretty good and because of them I don't really have to worry about the cops. I can't get that anywhere else. Not at this stage in life. He is in his 20s and can start again, I cannot do that.

T^T


I dont think I would want to go to Italy to live, a vacation yes, to live, no (I think there are better places).. Yeah, if he moves there then renouncing would be the thing to do.. glad that as a Canadian I dont have any reason to renounce my citizenship.. and so i can always go "home" easily if I ever want to..

BTW, Tuesday night there were so many people accessing Canada's immigration web site that they crashed it.. haha.. not that I think many will actually follow thru.. for people with strong family ties its pretty hard to move to another country.. and then there are those pesky requirements to immigrate, of course..

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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 11:38:42 PM   
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You can have the little gunshy wimps. Fukum.

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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 11:46:15 PM   
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Here we go:

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If at least 50% of Americans who do speak the same standard English as you, understand it as not all mexican are rapists and murderers.


Making shit up again.

You can either believe 50% of America who voted for Trump BELIEVES all Mexicans are Rapist and Murderers, which is pretty much what Mainstream Media keeps saying. More insults for half of Americans.

OR

You can believe like I believe, that they understand that Trump did not say "All Mexicans are Rapists and Murderers"

I choose to believe that people voted for Trump because they understood his actual meaning and not what the leftist interpretation of it. Thus half of America understands the English I understand.


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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/9/2016 11:55:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is actually my local papers and I am 100% disgusted at the headlines today!! WTF is this bullshit?

This is why Media are such liars sometimes!! If anybody just reads this. They would believe he is a Liar, Misogynist and a Racist. Which is all not true!



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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/10/2016 12:00:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		"You can believe like I believe, that they understand that Trump did not say "All Mexicans are Rapists and Murderers" "

To liberals he did. they have selective memory, selective hearing and would have selective law enforcement if their beloved Hillary the Axe had won.

There is no reasoning with them.

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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/10/2016 12:02:11 AM   
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This is actually my local papers and I am 100% disgusted at the headlines today!! WTF is this bullshit?

This is why Media are such liars sometimes!! If anybody just reads this. They would believe he is a Liar, Misogynist and a Racist. Which is all not true!




Actually all they say might be true, but he is still better than Clinton.

T^T

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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/10/2016 12:03:50 AM   
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RE: How to destroy the USA - 11/10/2016 12:10:09 AM   
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Actually all they say might be true, but he is still better than Clinton.

T^T

If you read the article inside, I wanna wring the journalist neck, because it's such bias reporting!

It says that the Americans who vote for Trump are afraid of change and are insecure.

Basically more insults for Trump voters.

This is what pisses me off about the media.

Are they doing journalism? Or just being condescending?


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