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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 5:48:36 PM   
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along with many other things stated by now President Elect Trump's supporters.


I highly doubt Trumpters would have rioted and what Walsh stated was tongue and cheek.

However I really would like to know specifically what you're referring to by the "many other things stated by now President Elect Trump's supporters."


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html

“People are going to march on the capitols,” said Mr. Halbrook, who works at a call center. “They’re going to do whatever needs to be done to get her out of office, because she does not belong there. If push comes to shove,” he added, and Mrs. Clinton “has to go by any means necessary, it will be done.”

Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor said: "If she�s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That�s how I feel about it. We�re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that�s what it takes. There�s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that�s what it�s going to take� I would do whatever I can for my country."�I feel like Hillary needs to be taken out. If she gets in the government, I�ll do everything in my power to take her out of power. If I have to be a patriot, I will.�

Heritage calling for Supreme Court blockade if Clinton wins

The Kentucky governor called for armed revolution if Clinton won.

The 240 militia groups were all over the civil war/coup thing on twitter and facebook.

But hey, I'm sure it's just tongue in cheek, would have been gracious in defeat, etc.


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I have very little doubt that had HRC won the election that we would be seeing similar, if not worse behavior as evidenced by.


But other than yours...and others...beliefs about that, we'll never know, will we?


See above.

No, we'll never know. Thank goodness for small favors.



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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 6:29:36 PM   
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http://ijr.com/2016/11/733528-after-nearly-wall-to-wall-coverage-of-protests-cnn-lets-a-truth-bomb-slip-on-who-promoted-them/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=ods&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_content=media

But in between interviewing protesters about their beefs, CNN reporter Jean Casarez dropped a truth bomb:

“This was promoted by Socialist Advantage and one of the things they said the purpose of this rally was for was, was to not only protest the election of Donald Trump the 45th president of the United States but also to protest that the Democratic party had let them down.”


Couldn't find a webpage for Socialist Advantage. But the protests seem to be well organized by someone.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 6:51:13 PM   
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along with many other things stated by now President Elect Trump's supporters.


I highly doubt Trumpters would have rioted and what Walsh stated was tongue and cheek.

However I really would like to know specifically what you're referring to by the "many other things stated by now President Elect Trump's supporters."


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html

“People are going to march on the capitols,” said Mr. Halbrook, who works at a call center. “They’re going to do whatever needs to be done to get her out of office, because she does not belong there. If push comes to shove,” he added, and Mrs. Clinton “has to go by any means necessary, it will be done.”

Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor said: "If she�s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That�s how I feel about it. We�re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that�s what it takes. There�s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that�s what it�s going to take� I would do whatever I can for my country."�I feel like Hillary needs to be taken out. If she gets in the government, I�ll do everything in my power to take her out of power. If I have to be a patriot, I will.�

Heritage calling for Supreme Court blockade if Clinton wins

The Kentucky governor called for armed revolution if Clinton won.

The 240 militia groups were all over the civil war/coup thing on twitter and facebook.

But hey, I'm sure it's just tongue in cheek, would have been gracious in defeat, etc.


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I have very little doubt that had HRC won the election that we would be seeing similar, if not worse behavior as evidenced by.


But other than yours...and others...beliefs about that, we'll never know, will we?


See above.

No, we'll never know. Thank goodness for small favors.




Both sides say that kind of stuff. It's only the left that actually follows through with riots, destroying property and burning the American flag.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 6:55:08 PM   
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Ya got me there. In the numerous promises and vows of violence and destruction and murder I quoted above (and there are many more available), they didn't mention flag burning.

#morallysuperiordestruction



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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 7:33:00 PM   
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I think the whole "we're afraid" argument is an excuse, because it's a politically correct motivation for being order to justify this crap. In reality I think it comes down to a sense of self-entitled "special little snowflake" syndrome and temper tantrums because people who never learned to deal with disappointment not getting their way.


Thanks for your input. I can always tell who the really tough! people are because they say things like "special little snowflake" and "temper tantrums" when describing others to prove it. Impressive.

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In essence I think what we're seeing is a side-effect of America's attitude of "Everybody gets a ribbon for participation."


Excellent point. You get a ribbon for that.

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It's also why I think the Right wouldn't have rioted had they lost... not because they're better than the left, but because that attitude of "not being able to cope with lost" isn't as prevalent -yet- in the country as it is the cities.


We're talkin' a different brand of snowflake, here; according to them, riots would have been just the first act:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4967999/mpage_7/key_/tm.htm#





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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 7:41:08 PM   
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I think the whole "we're afraid" argument is an excuse, because it's a politically correct motivation for being order to justify this crap. In reality I think it comes down to a sense of self-entitled "special little snowflake" syndrome and temper tantrums because people who never learned to deal with disappointment not getting their way.


Thanks for your input. I can always tell who the really tough! people are because they say tings like "special little snowflake" and "temper tantrums" when describing others to prove it. Impressive.

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In essence I think what we're seeing is a side-effect of America's attitude of "Everybody gets a ribbon for participation."


Excellent point. You get a ribbon for that.

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It's also why I think the Right wouldn't have rioted had they lost... not because they're better than the left, but because that attitude of "not being able to cope with lost" isn't as prevalent -yet- in the country as it is the cities.


We're talkin' a different brand of snowflake, here; according to them, riots would have been just the first act:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4967999/mpage_7/key_/tm.htm#




And everyone knows that a threat buy a know body on the right is worse than actions by people on the left.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 7:57:55 PM   
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I didn't realize the governor of Kentucky was a nobody, or even a know body.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 8:13:01 PM   
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I didn't realize the governor of Kentucky was a nobody, or even a know body.

You didn't quote him you just stated how you wanted to interpret what he said.
And still you want to equate right wing words with left wing actions.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 8:44:46 PM   
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Ya got me there. In the numerous promises and vows of violence and destruction and murder I quoted above (and there are many more available), they didn't mention flag burning.

#morallysuperiordestruction


And what he noted was that it's the left who actually FOLLOW through with riots. Did you miss that part or is it you can't deny it? Still waiting for evidence of ANY riots...other than the one night affair at the U. of Missouri...after Obama's election.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 8:56:12 PM   
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along with many other things stated by now President Elect Trump's supporters.


I highly doubt Trumpters would have rioted and what Walsh stated was tongue and cheek.

However I really would like to know specifically what you're referring to by the "many other things stated by now President Elect Trump's supporters."




Did you miss that part?

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 8:59:28 PM   
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And what he noted was that it's the left who actually FOLLOW through with riots.


The whole discussion was about comparison of what is happening vs. what Trump supporters vowed to do if he didn't win.

He won, of course they didn't follow through.

Fuckwit.





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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 9:10:38 PM   
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The whole discussion was about comparison of what is happening vs. what trump supporters vowed to do if he didn't win.

Fuckwit.

No it is about what th left actually did, which is what I expressed concern about last week, against what you are afraid the right might have done if Hillary had won. The fact is that the leftest are doing what the claimed to fear the left would do. And didn't you'all say that just for saying the would do things they should be tried for treason?

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 9:15:30 PM   
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And what he noted was that it's the left who actually FOLLOW through with riots.


The whole discussion was about comparison of what is happening vs. what Trump supporters vowed to do if he didn't win.

He won, of course they didn't follow through.

Fuckwit.


I find it amazing that you're arguing with someone to whom this even needs to be explained.
It seems a pretty good indication of how the rest of your debate will go.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 9:23:02 PM   
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I didn't realize the governor of Kentucky was a nobody, or even a know body.


You didn't quote him you just stated how you wanted to interpret what he said.


You're right, I didn't quote him, nor the voluminous calls for his resignation after he said it, etc.

But here we are:

“Do you think it’s possible, if Hillary Clinton were to win the election, do you think it’s possible that we’ll be able to survive, that we’d ever be able to recover as a nation?” Bevin went on:

I do think it would be possible, but at what price? At what price? The roots of the tree of liberty are watered by what? The blood, of who? The tyrants to be sure, but who else. The patriots. Whose blood will be shed? It may be that of those in this room."

Yeah, after reading, I see where you're coming from, bad interpretation on my part.

Any one can see that he was actually calling for peace in the valley, and I think the lefty media intentionally left out the part where he and the group sang Kum ba yah just after the speech.



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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 9:30:31 PM   
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I find it amazing that you're arguing with someone to whom this even needs to be explained.
It seems a pretty good indication of how the rest of your debate will go.


Didn't see 'til too late I was out of library books, nothing to read.


Yeah, I'm bored

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 9:37:47 PM   
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And what he noted was that it's the left who actually FOLLOW through with riots.


The whole discussion was about comparison of what is happening vs. what Trump supporters vowed to do if he didn't win.

He won, of course they didn't follow through.

Fuckwit.


I find it amazing that you're arguing with someone to whom this even needs to be explained.
It seems a pretty good indication of how the rest of your debate will go.

I understand exactly where he is coming from, that doesn't mean I have to agree with him.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 9:44:51 PM   
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I didn't realize the governor of Kentucky was a nobody, or even a know body.


You didn't quote him you just stated how you wanted to interpret what he said.


You're right, I didn't quote him, nor the voluminous calls for his resignation after he said it, etc.

But here we are:

“Do you think it’s possible, if Hillary Clinton were to win the election, do you think it’s possible that we’ll be able to survive, that we’d ever be able to recover as a nation?” Bevin went on:

I do think it would be possible, but at what price? At what price? The roots of the tree of liberty are watered by what? The blood, of who? The tyrants to be sure, but who else. The patriots. Whose blood will be shed? It may be that of those in this room."

Yeah, after reading, I see where you're coming from, bad interpretation on my part.

Any one can see that he was actually calling for peace in the valley, and I think the lefty media intentionally left out the part where he and the group sang Kum ba yah just after the speech.



And people on the left are still calling for demonstrations and letter righting till the election is overthrown and Hillary is made president.
You see the difference is had it gone the other way and it was Trumpets who were rioting I would still be condemning them and not comparing it to what lefties threatened to do. I have a sense of proportion that you seem to lack.
You want to tell us how the right would have been just as bad if Hillary had won and you want to focus on that to pretend that what the left is actually doing somehow makes the left ok. You may not mean to do so but that is what you are doing. There is always an excuse for violence on the left, there is never and excuse for talking bad on the right.

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 9:50:53 PM   
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The whole discussion was about comparison of what is happening vs. what trump supporters vowed to do if he didn't win.


No it is about what th left actually did, which is what I expressed concern about last week, against what you are afraid the right might have done if Hillary had won.


Go sit in the corner, and read this 100 times:

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However I really would like to know specifically what you're referring to by the "many other things stated by now President Elect Trump's supporters."


I gave examples to some mentally immoble couch blob who wanted to know something -specifically- that he was too lazy or stupid to figure out how to find himself. Simple as that.



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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 10:14:34 PM   
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I understand exactly where he is coming from, that doesn't mean I have to agree with him.


I'm not going to get sucked into some inane tit-for-tat about which side is more violent... but you seriously don't see the problem with pitting speculation versus fact?

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RE: Hillary Supporters Burn American Flag, Riot, Threat... - 11/10/2016 11:02:17 PM   
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I understand exactly where he is coming from, that doesn't mean I have to agree with him.


I'm not going to get sucked into some inane tit-for-tat about which side is more violent... but you seriously don't see the problem with pitting speculation versus fact?

Yes I do, assuming that we would have riots if Hillary won.
There are riots because Trump won, that is fact.

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