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RE: The Trump effect - 11/12/2016 9:46:42 AM   
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I know this will be dismissed by Trump-defenders as just one person who took it the wrong way, and you will say that Trump isn't responsible, and tell yourselves that his election hasn't empowered and emboldened people who think this way.

But you would be wrong.


On the contrary, it is you who are entirely incorrect. I read the ACLU complaint. All of this teacher's alleged unacceptable behavior occurred prior to January, 2016, when the mother withdrew her children from the Academy of Excellence. Secondly, the teacher allegedly not only targeted the Muslim student in question, but was also derogatory and violent toward students of all skin hues. If true, the woman is slime, however this has fuck-all to do with Trump.

When it comes to wild prognostications, it appears that people across the spectrum seem to have lost their little minds. Despite Bush and Obama's expansion of presidential power by fiat, this still is a republic balanced in authority distributed in the main branches of government. For chrissakes people, calm the fuck down.

Thanks, this sounds more likely. As I said in a post above, I didn't believe the story or the source. Not having read the ACLU complaint, I'll take your report. It does appear the huff post was cherry picking to make an erroneous political point, which is consistent with my previous observations.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/12/2016 12:36:47 PM   
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In re: the Trump Effect more generally...

Canada PM says ready to renegotiate NAFTA with Trump
Mexico says ready to 'modernize' NAFTA with Trump

And hilariously...

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly

Say what?

K.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/12/2016 1:23:58 PM   
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northern backlash from the "trump effect"

Patrick Stuart ‎@patstuart08
Only one problem with all these crazy liberals and celebrities wanting to move to Canada now...we don't want you #suckstosuck
12:49 PM - 9 Nov 2016
327 327 Retweets
463 463 likes

mrpopo‎@theonederbread
@MattConYT @amyschumer @lenadunham Please don't punish us few sane-minded Canadians.
10:22 PM - 8 Nov 2016

Not A Real Doctor @DrGossSCV
@Dave_LT You sent us Bieber, so you taking @lenadunham is more than fair. #KarmasABitch

Dave ‎@Dave_LT
@DrGossSCV @lenadunham okay we promise to take Bieber back but you keep all those left wing nut jobs. Our squirrels will eat them.
12:14 AM - 10 Nov 2016


Captain Ahab ‎@delibean21
#ElectionNight We canadians Need to build a wall FAST.... Lena Dunham is already packing!!!!!!!!
1:11 AM - 9 Nov 2016
86 86 Retweets


Evangelo ‎@pixelsoflight
Dear @MileyCyrus & @lenadunham - Canada doesn't want you! There's always Mexico. #ElectionNight
12:18 PM - 10 Nov 2016
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RE: The Trump effect - 11/12/2016 3:34:14 PM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/teacher-muslim-student_us_581b753ae4b07cfea321b8a8

Teacher To Muslim Refugee Student: You’re A Terrorist, And I Can’t Wait Until Donald Trump Deports All You Muslims.

On one occasion, A.A.’s teacher showed a video to the class about 9/11 terrorists and then said to A.A. in front of the entire class, “That’s going to be you,” suggesting that he was destined to become a terrorist himself.

Another time, when A.A. raised his hand to answer a question, his teacher snapped at him — “All you Muslims think you are so smart” — in front of the entire class. Then, referring to the fact that A.A. and his family were resettled in the United States on refugee visas, the teacher started ranting about Donald Trump, telling A.A.:

“I can’t wait until Trump is elected. He’s going to deport all you Muslims. Muslims shouldn’t be given visas. They’ll probably take away your visa and deport you. You’re going to be the next terrorist, I bet.”

On the bus ride home, A.A.’s classmates mimicked his teacher’s anti-Muslim comments, taunting him about the fact that his visa would be revoked because he is a Muslim, calling him a “terrorist,” and accusing him of planning to blow up the bus.

But that’s not all: Earlier in the school year, the same teacher had refused to let A.A. pray during recess and, during class one day, she choked him because he would not stop talking with his classmates — even though she had instructed the class that they could have a few minutes of “downtime” to do just that.

When A.A.’s mother initially complained about these events, the school’s director sided with the teacher and claimed the teacher had done nothing wrong. (Unfortunately, this was not the first time the school director had been dismissive of reports that her staff had assaulted a student. In 2013, she sided with a bus driver who had allegedly slapped a six-year-old, prompting the child’s father to withdraw all five of his children from the school.)

And in January of this year — just a few days after the most recent complaint to the school, this time about the teacher’s rant over A.A.’s visa — school officials falsely claimed that A.A. had broken school rules by opening an emergency window on the school bus. They went on to effectively expel him, along with his younger sister, F.A., a second-grader, from the school.


I know this will be dismissed by Trump-defenders as just one person who took it the wrong way, and you will say that Trump isn't responsible, and tell yourselves that his election hasn't empowered and emboldened people who think this way.

But you would be wrong.

First, I don't believe it. Second, the source doesn't help me believe it. Third, A.A. isn't being crucified, which is happening in Muslem countries.

Third, he was being treated like he was a Christian kid expressing his religion, How dare they treat a Muslim like that.


Christian prayer, in U S schools, has been outlawed for years. Why should
someone, from another country have a privilege denied to one native to
the U S?

'hawk

Btw...I champion prayer for everyone.


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RE: The Trump effect - 11/12/2016 8:14:12 PM   
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~ FR ~

Another "Trump Effect": Bubbles



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RE: The Trump effect - 11/12/2016 10:35:39 PM   
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I don't know why my browser is showing that image link as broken now. The link works fine if I paste it into my address bar. But here's a different one in case anyone else is having the same problem.



Edited to add: Well fuck, now the other image is displaying again. Go figure.

K.


< Message edited by Kirata -- 11/12/2016 10:36:20 PM >

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/13/2016 4:35:33 AM   
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More Trump Effect...

Lafayette police said a woman made up a story about two men attacking her and stealing her wallet and hijab on Wednesday. "During the course of the investigation, the female complainant admitted that she fabricated the story about her physical attack as well as the removal of her hijab and wallet by two white males," the Lafayette Police Department said in a news release...

In the initial report, the woman said two men hit her, made her fall to the ground, yelled racial obscenities, then stole her wallet and hijab, a head covering sometimes worn by Muslim women. Initial reports also suggested at least one of the attackers was wearing a Donald Trump hat.
~Source

K.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/13/2016 4:53:18 AM   
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Prayer in U.S. public schools is not outlawed. School-led prayer is.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/13/2016 7:14:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


I don't know why my browser is showing that image link as broken now. The link works fine if I paste it into my address bar. But here's a different one in case anyone else is having the same problem.



Edited to add: Well fuck, now the other image is displaying again. Go figure.

K.



Omg.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/18/2016 10:15:19 PM   
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Trump supporters vandalize a park because it was named after a Jewish performer.

https://www.yahoo.com/music/adam-yauch-park-defaced-with-anti-semitic-pro-trump-graffiti-034428325.html

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/18/2016 10:21:27 PM   
heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: SunDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I know this will be dismissed by Trump-defenders as just one person who took it the wrong way, and you will say that Trump isn't responsible, and tell yourselves that his election hasn't empowered and emboldened people who think this way.

But you would be wrong.


On the contrary, it is you who are entirely incorrect. I read the ACLU complaint. All of this teacher's alleged unacceptable behavior occurred prior to January, 2016, when the mother withdrew her children from the Academy of Excellence. Secondly, the teacher allegedly not only targeted the Muslim student in question, but was also derogatory and violent toward students of all skin hues. If true, the woman is slime, however this has fuck-all to do with Trump.

When it comes to wild prognostications, it appears that people across the spectrum seem to have lost their little minds. Despite Bush and Obama's expansion of presidential power by fiat, this still is a republic balanced in authority distributed in the main branches of government. For chrissakes people, calm the fuck down.


If it has nothing to do with Trump, then why did she state that Trump was going to kick her and her family out of the country?

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/18/2016 11:13:04 PM   
heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

northern backlash from the "trump effect"

Patrick Stuart ‎@patstuart08
Only one problem with all these crazy liberals and celebrities wanting to move to Canada now...we don't want you #suckstosuck
12:49 PM - 9 Nov 2016
327 327 Retweets
463 463 likes

mrpopo‎@theonederbread
@MattConYT @amyschumer @lenadunham Please don't punish us few sane-minded Canadians.
10:22 PM - 8 Nov 2016

Not A Real Doctor @DrGossSCV
@Dave_LT You sent us Bieber, so you taking @lenadunham is more than fair. #KarmasABitch

Dave ‎@Dave_LT
@DrGossSCV @lenadunham okay we promise to take Bieber back but you keep all those left wing nut jobs. Our squirrels will eat them.
12:14 AM - 10 Nov 2016


Captain Ahab ‎@delibean21
#ElectionNight We canadians Need to build a wall FAST.... Lena Dunham is already packing!!!!!!!!
1:11 AM - 9 Nov 2016
86 86 Retweets


Evangelo ‎@pixelsoflight
Dear @MileyCyrus & @lenadunham - Canada doesn't want you! There's always Mexico. #ElectionNight
12:18 PM - 10 Nov 2016
123 123 likes



Imagine everyone's surprise to discover that there are also moronic RWNJs in Canada.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 2:09:56 AM   
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In Korematsu V US, SCOTUS legalized discrimination and it has stuck ever since. I personally think that SCOTUS got it all wrong and that it should be overturned. What the teacher did to the child is emotional abuse. I still have scars from the NAZI teacher that I had in the 6th grade who used a 2x2 on our heads. Muslums are not the problem. Extremeists. When I was in East Africa, the town had 10 American's (soldiers), 1 Brit, 1 Italian, 1 Yougoslav and 1 Greek (the Yugoslave and Greek were married and they had a daughter my age). There were 30,000 Muslims in town (during the 67 mid-east war it grew to 250,000). They also had Christians of mostly Coptic and Catholic religions. We all co-existed very nicely.

It is the radicals that are the problem. It really doesn't matter what you are radicalized about. It can be religion, country of origin,polotics, whatever. They are intollerant of anyone elses perspective. I see it here on this forum all the time. The shaming, the name calling, all that crap. Look at journalism. I believe it was the NY Times that stated that they determined the outcome of the news, discarded anything that might go against that and then reported what met the outcome. That is just one example of radicalism.

I personally believe in the rule of the law. I don't have to agree with it. I can fight against it using legal means. I can express disappointment and disagreewit with the law, but it is still the law. I don't believe in using extra-legal means to achieve my goals.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 6:25:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

In Korematsu V US, SCOTUS legalized discrimination and it has stuck ever since. I personally think that SCOTUS got it all wrong and that it should be overturned. What the teacher did to the child is emotional abuse. I still have scars from the NAZI teacher that I had in the 6th grade who used a 2x2 on our heads. Muslums are not the problem. Extremeists. When I was in East Africa, the town had 10 American's (soldiers), 1 Brit, 1 Italian, 1 Yougoslav and 1 Greek (the Yugoslave and Greek were married and they had a daughter my age). There were 30,000 Muslims in town (during the 67 mid-east war it grew to 250,000). They also had Christians of mostly Coptic and Catholic religions. We all co-existed very nicely.

It is the radicals that are the problem. It really doesn't matter what you are radicalized about. It can be religion, country of origin,polotics, whatever. They are intollerant of anyone elses perspective. I see it here on this forum all the time. The shaming, the name calling, all that crap. Look at journalism. I believe it was the NY Times that stated that they determined the outcome of the news, discarded anything that might go against that and then reported what met the outcome. That is just one example of radicalism.

I personally believe in the rule of the law. I don't have to agree with it. I can fight against it using legal means. I can express disappointment and disagreewit with the law, but it is still the law. I don't believe in using extra-legal means to achieve my goals.

Can we like, make this a sticky?

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 7:07:49 AM   
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LOL Hell no. LOL just plagerize the hell out of it. I don't care. LOL

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 7:18:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: nighthawk3569


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/teacher-muslim-student_us_581b753ae4b07cfea321b8a8

Teacher To Muslim Refugee Student: You’re A Terrorist, And I Can’t Wait Until Donald Trump Deports All You Muslims.

On one occasion, A.A.’s teacher showed a video to the class about 9/11 terrorists and then said to A.A. in front of the entire class, “That’s going to be you,” suggesting that he was destined to become a terrorist himself.

Another time, when A.A. raised his hand to answer a question, his teacher snapped at him — “All you Muslims think you are so smart” — in front of the entire class. Then, referring to the fact that A.A. and his family were resettled in the United States on refugee visas, the teacher started ranting about Donald Trump, telling A.A.:

“I can’t wait until Trump is elected. He’s going to deport all you Muslims. Muslims shouldn’t be given visas. They’ll probably take away your visa and deport you. You’re going to be the next terrorist, I bet.”

On the bus ride home, A.A.’s classmates mimicked his teacher’s anti-Muslim comments, taunting him about the fact that his visa would be revoked because he is a Muslim, calling him a “terrorist,” and accusing him of planning to blow up the bus.

But that’s not all: Earlier in the school year, the same teacher had refused to let A.A. pray during recess and, during class one day, she choked him because he would not stop talking with his classmates — even though she had instructed the class that they could have a few minutes of “downtime” to do just that.

When A.A.’s mother initially complained about these events, the school’s director sided with the teacher and claimed the teacher had done nothing wrong. (Unfortunately, this was not the first time the school director had been dismissive of reports that her staff had assaulted a student. In 2013, she sided with a bus driver who had allegedly slapped a six-year-old, prompting the child’s father to withdraw all five of his children from the school.)

And in January of this year — just a few days after the most recent complaint to the school, this time about the teacher’s rant over A.A.’s visa — school officials falsely claimed that A.A. had broken school rules by opening an emergency window on the school bus. They went on to effectively expel him, along with his younger sister, F.A., a second-grader, from the school.


I know this will be dismissed by Trump-defenders as just one person who took it the wrong way, and you will say that Trump isn't responsible, and tell yourselves that his election hasn't empowered and emboldened people who think this way.

But you would be wrong.

First, I don't believe it. Second, the source doesn't help me believe it. Third, A.A. isn't being crucified, which is happening in Muslem countries.

Third, he was being treated like he was a Christian kid expressing his religion, How dare they treat a Muslim like that.


Christian prayer, in U S schools, has been outlawed for years. Why should
someone, from another country have a privilege denied to one native to
the U S?

'hawk

Btw...I champion prayer for everyone.


Exactly.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 7:21:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: SunDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I know this will be dismissed by Trump-defenders as just one person who took it the wrong way, and you will say that Trump isn't responsible, and tell yourselves that his election hasn't empowered and emboldened people who think this way.

But you would be wrong.


On the contrary, it is you who are entirely incorrect. I read the ACLU complaint. All of this teacher's alleged unacceptable behavior occurred prior to January, 2016, when the mother withdrew her children from the Academy of Excellence. Secondly, the teacher allegedly not only targeted the Muslim student in question, but was also derogatory and violent toward students of all skin hues. If true, the woman is slime, however this has fuck-all to do with Trump.

When it comes to wild prognostications, it appears that people across the spectrum seem to have lost their little minds. Despite Bush and Obama's expansion of presidential power by fiat, this still is a republic balanced in authority distributed in the main branches of government. For chrissakes people, calm the fuck down.


If it has nothing to do with Trump, then why did she state that Trump was going to kick her and her family out of the country?

The fact that her fear may be real, doesn't mean the threat is.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 7:39:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: KenDckey

In Korematsu V US, SCOTUS legalized discrimination and it has stuck ever since. I personally think that SCOTUS got it all wrong and that it should be overturned. What the teacher did to the child is emotional abuse. I still have scars from the NAZI teacher that I had in the 6th grade who used a 2x2 on our heads. Muslums are not the problem. Extremeists. When I was in East Africa, the town had 10 American's (soldiers), 1 Brit, 1 Italian, 1 Yougoslav and 1 Greek (the Yugoslave and Greek were married and they had a daughter my age). There were 30,000 Muslims in town (during the 67 mid-east war it grew to 250,000). They also had Christians of mostly Coptic and Catholic religions. We all co-existed very nicely.

It is the radicals that are the problem. It really doesn't matter what you are radicalized about. It can be religion, country of origin,polotics, whatever. They are intollerant of anyone elses perspective. I see it here on this forum all the time. The shaming, the name calling, all that crap. Look at journalism. I believe it was the NY Times that stated that they determined the outcome of the news, discarded anything that might go against that and then reported what met the outcome. That is just one example of radicalism.

I personally believe in the rule of the law. I don't have to agree with it. I can fight against it using legal means. I can express disappointment and disagreewit with the law, but it is still the law. I don't believe in using extra-legal means to achieve my goals.

Can we like, make this a sticky?


Radicals are weak people who are brainwashed because they aren't really strong enough nor smart enough to think for themselves.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 7:46:12 AM   
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The fact that her fear may be real, doesn't mean the threat is.


The fact that her fear might not be real doesn't mean that Trump isn't making people feel better about saying these kinds of things.

< Message edited by heavyblinker -- 11/19/2016 7:47:07 AM >

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 7:47:20 AM   
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Radicals are weak people who are brainwashed because they aren't really strong enough nor smart enough to think for themselves.


You say 'brainwashed' a lot.

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