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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 7:57:19 AM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/teacher-muslim-student_us_581b753ae4b07cfea321b8a8

Teacher To Muslim Refugee Student: You’re A Terrorist, And I Can’t Wait Until Donald Trump Deports All You Muslims.

On one occasion, A.A.’s teacher showed a video to the class about 9/11 terrorists and then said to A.A. in front of the entire class, “That’s going to be you,” suggesting that he was destined to become a terrorist himself.

Another time, when A.A. raised his hand to answer a question, his teacher snapped at him — “All you Muslims think you are so smart” — in front of the entire class. Then, referring to the fact that A.A. and his family were resettled in the United States on refugee visas, the teacher started ranting about Donald Trump, telling A.A.:

“I can’t wait until Trump is elected. He’s going to deport all you Muslims. Muslims shouldn’t be given visas. They’ll probably take away your visa and deport you. You’re going to be the next terrorist, I bet.”

On the bus ride home, A.A.’s classmates mimicked his teacher’s anti-Muslim comments, taunting him about the fact that his visa would be revoked because he is a Muslim, calling him a “terrorist,” and accusing him of planning to blow up the bus.

But that’s not all: Earlier in the school year, the same teacher had refused to let A.A. pray during recess and, during class one day, she choked him because he would not stop talking with his classmates — even though she had instructed the class that they could have a few minutes of “downtime” to do just that.

When A.A.’s mother initially complained about these events, the school’s director sided with the teacher and claimed the teacher had done nothing wrong. (Unfortunately, this was not the first time the school director had been dismissive of reports that her staff had assaulted a student. In 2013, she sided with a bus driver who had allegedly slapped a six-year-old, prompting the child’s father to withdraw all five of his children from the school.)

And in January of this year — just a few days after the most recent complaint to the school, this time about the teacher’s rant over A.A.’s visa — school officials falsely claimed that A.A. had broken school rules by opening an emergency window on the school bus. They went on to effectively expel him, along with his younger sister, F.A., a second-grader, from the school.


I know this will be dismissed by Trump-defenders as just one person who took it the wrong way, and you will say that Trump isn't responsible, and tell yourselves that his election hasn't empowered and emboldened people who think this way.

But you would be wrong.

First, I don't believe it. Second, the source doesn't help me believe it. Third, A.A. isn't being crucified, which is happening in Muslem countries.

Third, he was being treated like he was a Christian kid expressing his religion, How dare they treat a Muslim like that.


Christian prayer, in U S schools, has been outlawed for years. Why should
someone, from another country have a privilege denied to one native to
the U S?

'hawk

Btw...I champion prayer for everyone.


Exactly.

As Kaliko pointed out earlier, prayer, including Christian prayer, is not outlawed in schools. School led prayer is. Student led prayer and individual prayer is fairly common.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 8:05:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/teacher-muslim-student_us_581b753ae4b07cfea321b8a8

Teacher To Muslim Refugee Student: You’re A Terrorist, And I Can’t Wait Until Donald Trump Deports All You Muslims.

On one occasion, A.A.’s teacher showed a video to the class about 9/11 terrorists and then said to A.A. in front of the entire class, “That’s going to be you,” suggesting that he was destined to become a terrorist himself.

Another time, when A.A. raised his hand to answer a question, his teacher snapped at him — “All you Muslims think you are so smart” — in front of the entire class. Then, referring to the fact that A.A. and his family were resettled in the United States on refugee visas, the teacher started ranting about Donald Trump, telling A.A.:

“I can’t wait until Trump is elected. He’s going to deport all you Muslims. Muslims shouldn’t be given visas. They’ll probably take away your visa and deport you. You’re going to be the next terrorist, I bet.”

On the bus ride home, A.A.’s classmates mimicked his teacher’s anti-Muslim comments, taunting him about the fact that his visa would be revoked because he is a Muslim, calling him a “terrorist,” and accusing him of planning to blow up the bus.

But that’s not all: Earlier in the school year, the same teacher had refused to let A.A. pray during recess and, during class one day, she choked him because he would not stop talking with his classmates — even though she had instructed the class that they could have a few minutes of “downtime” to do just that.

When A.A.’s mother initially complained about these events, the school’s director sided with the teacher and claimed the teacher had done nothing wrong. (Unfortunately, this was not the first time the school director had been dismissive of reports that her staff had assaulted a student. In 2013, she sided with a bus driver who had allegedly slapped a six-year-old, prompting the child’s father to withdraw all five of his children from the school.)

And in January of this year — just a few days after the most recent complaint to the school, this time about the teacher’s rant over A.A.’s visa — school officials falsely claimed that A.A. had broken school rules by opening an emergency window on the school bus. They went on to effectively expel him, along with his younger sister, F.A., a second-grader, from the school.


I know this will be dismissed by Trump-defenders as just one person who took it the wrong way, and you will say that Trump isn't responsible, and tell yourselves that his election hasn't empowered and emboldened people who think this way.

But you would be wrong.

First, I don't believe it. Second, the source doesn't help me believe it. Third, A.A. isn't being crucified, which is happening in Muslem countries.

Third, he was being treated like he was a Christian kid expressing his religion, How dare they treat a Muslim like that.


Christian prayer, in U S schools, has been outlawed for years. Why should
someone, from another country have a privilege denied to one native to
the U S?

'hawk

Btw...I champion prayer for everyone.


Exactly.

As Kaliko pointed out earlier, prayer, including Christian prayer, is not outlawed in schools. School led prayer is. Student led prayer and individual prayer is fairly common.

Then why have one school after another been told by the courts that they can't allow student led prayer at football game. Why are Christian clubs at schools prohibited unless they allow atheists to be officers. Just two years ago that happened with U of Tenn, and if anyone needs to be prayed for it is Tenn.

You may be talking about the letter of the law but that isn't the way it is enforced.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 2:10:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: nighthawk3569


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/teacher-muslim-student_us_581b753ae4b07cfea321b8a8

Teacher To Muslim Refugee Student: You’re A Terrorist, And I Can’t Wait Until Donald Trump Deports All You Muslims.

On one occasion, A.A.’s teacher showed a video to the class about 9/11 terrorists and then said to A.A. in front of the entire class, “That’s going to be you,” suggesting that he was destined to become a terrorist himself.

Another time, when A.A. raised his hand to answer a question, his teacher snapped at him — “All you Muslims think you are so smart” — in front of the entire class. Then, referring to the fact that A.A. and his family were resettled in the United States on refugee visas, the teacher started ranting about Donald Trump, telling A.A.:

“I can’t wait until Trump is elected. He’s going to deport all you Muslims. Muslims shouldn’t be given visas. They’ll probably take away your visa and deport you. You’re going to be the next terrorist, I bet.”

On the bus ride home, A.A.’s classmates mimicked his teacher’s anti-Muslim comments, taunting him about the fact that his visa would be revoked because he is a Muslim, calling him a “terrorist,” and accusing him of planning to blow up the bus.

But that’s not all: Earlier in the school year, the same teacher had refused to let A.A. pray during recess and, during class one day, she choked him because he would not stop talking with his classmates — even though she had instructed the class that they could have a few minutes of “downtime” to do just that.

When A.A.’s mother initially complained about these events, the school’s director sided with the teacher and claimed the teacher had done nothing wrong. (Unfortunately, this was not the first time the school director had been dismissive of reports that her staff had assaulted a student. In 2013, she sided with a bus driver who had allegedly slapped a six-year-old, prompting the child’s father to withdraw all five of his children from the school.)

And in January of this year — just a few days after the most recent complaint to the school, this time about the teacher’s rant over A.A.’s visa — school officials falsely claimed that A.A. had broken school rules by opening an emergency window on the school bus. They went on to effectively expel him, along with his younger sister, F.A., a second-grader, from the school.


I know this will be dismissed by Trump-defenders as just one person who took it the wrong way, and you will say that Trump isn't responsible, and tell yourselves that his election hasn't empowered and emboldened people who think this way.

But you would be wrong.

First, I don't believe it. Second, the source doesn't help me believe it. Third, A.A. isn't being crucified, which is happening in Muslem countries.

Third, he was being treated like he was a Christian kid expressing his religion, How dare they treat a Muslim like that.


Christian prayer, in U S schools, has been outlawed for years. Why should
someone, from another country have a privilege denied to one native to
the U S?

'hawk

Btw...I champion prayer for everyone.


Exactly.

As Kaliko pointed out earlier, prayer, including Christian prayer, is not outlawed in schools. School led prayer is. Student led prayer and individual prayer is fairly common.

Then why have one school after another been told by the courts that they can't allow student led prayer at football game. Why are Christian clubs at schools prohibited unless they allow atheists to be officers. Just two years ago that happened with U of Tenn, and if anyone needs to be prayed for it is Tenn.

You may be talking about the letter of the law but that isn't the way it is enforced.

Ive been in high schools for twenty years. I see it with my own two eyes all the time.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 2:26:05 PM   
Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Then why have one school after another been told by the courts that they can't allow student led prayer at football game. Why are Christian clubs at schools prohibited unless they allow atheists to be officers. Just two years ago that happened with U of Tenn, and if anyone needs to be prayed for it is Tenn.

You may be talking about the letter of the law but that isn't the way it is enforced.

The idea behind student led prayer being acceptable is that only students who are willing are participating, and those who are not are not being made to be a part of it. But if a school turns their PA equipment over to a student and gives them a captive audience, that is making a whole lot of people. willing or not, part of it.

So no, legally that is not supposed to happen. However, I can tell you that at least here in the South, it happens a lot.

What is legal during games, and even during school hours, is instituting a moment of silence.

Students routinely engage in 'Prayer at the Flagpole' events and Christian clubs.

As far as the Tennessee thing goes, you are going to have to give me a cite for that. I find it dubious, and when I did a search for it using key words, all I came up with was a story where a police officer put Christian articles on the department's facebook page and and atheist organization sued them.

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RE: The Trump effect - 11/19/2016 5:15:58 PM   
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Then why have one school after another been told by the courts that they can't allow student led prayer at football game.


http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/university-of-tennessee-refuses-to-ban-pre-game-prayers.html

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Why are Christian clubs at schools prohibited unless they allow atheists to be officers.


Rulings related to that came out rulings stemming from cases from California and Vanderbilt University. Basically they say that no clubs, of any sort, can write into their bylaws, that members or officers have to be any specific gender, race, religion, etc. That's discrimination. So yes, an atheist can join a Christian club, and can run for office. Whether or not that person gets elected to the office, that's up to the club members.


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