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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

just another wankers dream,

Never an idea, always a snide comment.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

just another wankers dream,

Never an idea, always a snide comment.

LMAO projecting again slime?

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Here's an idea. Could always ask Bush I. He's the reigning expert on presidential pardons having pardoned 14 from the Reagan admin. that either were indicted or about to be indicted for Iran/Contra et al.

Cannot escape history, when it comes to presidential pardons, the repubs are the real experts. (pros) That's 'their' legacy.

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Here's an idea. Could always ask Bush I. He's the reigning expert on presidential pardons having pardoned 14 from the Reagan admin. that either were indicted or about to be indicted for Iran/Contra et al.

Cannot escape history, when it comes to presidential pardons, the repubs are the real experts. (pros) That's 'their' legacy.

What a bunch of crap. Numerous presidents have pardoned thousands of people. According to this site, FDR and Truman apparently pardoned over 5,000 themselves.

http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/presidential-pardons-1789-present.html

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Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.

GERALD R. FORD

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

Then I expect two different scenarios could occur.

1) Trump removes Comey as soon as he's in office and pursues indictment, or

2) He drops it altogether.

I don't see an alternative for a third choice.

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

I'm sure Obama will issue a pardon if the FBI brings charges. But he's going to want to make sure that the FBI's case is as fully investigated as possible so that his pardon covers everything the Clintons can be charged with. He'll use the DOJ to delay the charges until the last possible moment then pardon them for everything as he's leaving the White House.

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

I'm sure Obama will issue a pardon if the FBI brings charges. But he's going to want to make sure that the FBI's case is as fully investigated as possible so that his pardon covers everything the Clintons can be charged with. He'll use the DOJ to delay the charges until the last possible moment then pardon them for everything as he's leaving the White House.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

to avoid the politicizing of his position.

Michael

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


Hmmmm ... That's weird. "Impeach" at that level usually equates to: "Indict". Which would be a formal charge.

Also a bit interesting is: Your Website.

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Early in 1974, the cover-up began to fall apart. On March 1, a grand jury appointed by a new special prosecutor indicted seven of Nixon’s former aides on various charges related to the Watergate affair. The jury, unsure if they could indict a sitting president, called Nixon an “unindicted co-conspirator.”

In July, the Supreme Court ordered Nixon to turn over the tapes. While the president dragged his feet, the House of Representatives voted to impeach him for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, criminal cover-up and several violations of the Constitution. Finally, on August 5, Nixon released the tapes, which provided undeniable evidence of his complicity in the Watergate crimes. In the face of certain impeachment by the Senate, the president resigned on August 8.

While I LOVE the History Channel, I have to question the validity of this article since the entire population over 50 years old knows that only two presidents (Jackson and Clinton) have ever been impeached.

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Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.

GERALD R. FORD

Yep. He was only pardoned for (your claim) one crime, but on another part of their site, History claims that he was "charged" with at least three different crimes (and some that go un-named). They can't seem to make up their minds.

That said, Ford's pardon clearly says that there were "pending" issues at the time of the pardon which the pardon covers(/ed).



Michael

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
Comey has a ten-year term from which he can't be fired to avoid the politicizing of his position. I believe he's done with that term in 2018.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


Hmmmm ... That's weird. "Impeach" at that level usually equates to: "Indict". Which would be a formal charge.

Also a bit interesting is: Your Website.

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Early in 1974, the cover-up began to fall apart. On March 1, a grand jury appointed by a new special prosecutor indicted seven of Nixon’s former aides on various charges related to the Watergate affair. The jury, unsure if they could indict a sitting president, called Nixon an “unindicted co-conspirator.”

In July, the Supreme Court ordered Nixon to turn over the tapes. While the president dragged his feet, the House of Representatives voted to impeach him for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, criminal cover-up and several violations of the Constitution. Finally, on August 5, Nixon released the tapes, which provided undeniable evidence of his complicity in the Watergate crimes. In the face of certain impeachment by the Senate, the president resigned on August 8.

While I LOVE the History Channel, I have to question the validity of this article since the entire population over 50 years old knows that only two presidents (Jackson and Clinton) have ever been impeached.

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Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.

GERALD R. FORD

Yep. He was only pardoned for (your claim) one crime, but on another part of their site, History claims that he was "charged" with at least three different crimes (and some that go un-named). They can't seem to make up their minds.

That said, Ford's pardon clearly says that there were "pending" issues at the time of the pardon which the pardon covers(/ed).



Michael

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Hate to correct you but the first president to be impeached was Andrew Johnson , not Andrew Jackson, I sure that was just a matter of your fingers getting ahead of your brain, happens to everyone sometime.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

just another wankers dream,

Never an idea, always a snide comment.

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
The FBI has already said it will not bring charges.

Then I expect two different scenarios could occur.
1) Trump removes Comey as soon as he's in office and pursues indictment, or
2) He drops it altogether.

I don't see an alternative for a third choice.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Here's an idea. Could always ask Bush I. He's the reigning expert on presidential pardons having pardoned 14 from the Reagan admin. that either were indicted or about to be indicted for Iran/Contra et al.

Cannot escape history, when it comes to presidential pardons, the repubs are the real experts. (pros) That's 'their' legacy.

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The House passed articles of impeachment; the Senate never tried the case.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


Hmmmm ... That's weird. "Impeach" at that level usually equates to: "Indict". Which would be a formal charge.

Also a bit interesting is: Your Website.

quote:

Early in 1974, the cover-up began to fall apart. On March 1, a grand jury appointed by a new special prosecutor indicted seven of Nixon’s former aides on various charges related to the Watergate affair. The jury, unsure if they could indict a sitting president, called Nixon an “unindicted co-conspirator.”

In July, the Supreme Court ordered Nixon to turn over the tapes. While the president dragged his feet, the House of Representatives voted to impeach him for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, criminal cover-up and several violations of the Constitution. Finally, on August 5, Nixon released the tapes, which provided undeniable evidence of his complicity in the Watergate crimes. In the face of certain impeachment by the Senate, the president resigned on August 8.

While I LOVE the History Channel, I have to question the validity of this article since the entire population over 50 years old knows that only two presidents (Jackson and Clinton) have ever been impeached.

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Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.

GERALD R. FORD

Yep. He was only pardoned for (your claim) one crime, but on another part of their site, History claims that he was "charged" with at least three different crimes (and some that go un-named). They can't seem to make up their minds.

That said, Ford's pardon clearly says that there were "pending" issues at the time of the pardon which the pardon covers(/ed).



Michael

Spin it anyway you feel the need to.

The House passed articles of impeachment; the Senate never tried the case.

You might want to brush up on your History Channel watching skills.

No president has been convicted by the Senate thus far, but two have been found guilty by the House: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Here's an idea. Could always ask Bush I. He's the reigning expert on presidential pardons having pardoned 14 from the Reagan admin. that either were indicted or about to be indicted for Iran/Contra et al.

Cannot escape history, when it comes to presidential pardons, the repubs are the real experts. (pros) That's 'their' legacy.

What a bunch of crap. Numerous presidents have pardoned thousands of people. According to this site, FDR and Truman apparently pardoned over 5,000 themselves.

http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/presidential-pardons-1789-present.html