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MercTech -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 12:40:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Understand now ? T^T It sounds like the same thing I've had a soapbox for in the health care issue in the U.S. There is no direct collusion but it is only in the best interest of the for profit health insurance companies and the for profit health care providers to keep cost spiraling up to the unaffordable so they can show a black bottom line each quarter. When a system supports a positive feedback; there is no control and the system cycles to self destruction. By banning "hate speech" without a clear and succinct definition (i.e. no threats of violence or advocating violence would be a good arguement) all you do is put a positive feedback into whack job concepts by banning any differing arguments as "hate speech" at the first accusation of their argument making them "afraid".

Termyn8or -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 1:20:15 PM)
Which is one of the reasons I am glad to be old. I can't imagine tolerating this country in fifteen years. I got a pretty good idea where it is going and guarantee you I will be checking out. You choose to stick with it that is your choice, but I say let these no talent, no knowledge, no thought soulless assholes live in their salf made fucking stone age. They cannot read a ruler let alone a micrometer, which means they can't build shit. They think might makes right until they run into someone bigger and badder (which I used to be) and then go crying to Mommy government. No work ethic, no skills but want a million bucks a year. For nothing, they have no useful skills except to say "Do you want fries with that" after a hundred grand education in basketweaving, oops, liberal arts they call it now. And it comes out of your income taxes which you really do not have to pay. I know someone might crawl out of the woodwork with supposed proof that you do but it is not true. And actually, if everyone stopped paying income taxes right this minute it would taker a decade for it to bother the government. Sure, they'll make it hard on you but they will be just fine. Just borrow up and print up a bunch more money and everything is fine. You wonder why kids kill themselves because of negativity on social media ? It is because social media is all they have. there is no future for them. Tell me what is their future. Work in fast food ? Forty years ago the world was the oyster, you had choices of "What you want to be when you grow up" but now it is limited and those fields are already populated by the brightest and the best. And picking on the Nazis, the only thing about them is the camps and the near genocide. Other than that they did that country a world of good and they benefit from it to this day. Sure, freedom of speech was limited, they were a country at war and/or getting ready to go to war. Als note in the US there was the Alien And Sedition Act which was pretty damn close. Too close for my comfort, and that was way before the Nazis ever got out of the scrotum. Bottom line is that anyone in power will use that power. I have said that if I were dictator you would have more freedom than ever and I mean that. But in practice I am not so sure such a "promise" would hold. Eventually there would be someone I do not like, most likely because they do not like me because I supported the rights of someone who they think should not have those rights. What do I do then ? Keep letting them spout off like a court jester when we have business to which to attend ? If I lock the asshole up just for the necessary proceedings the bleeding hearts would wnat me crucified for not letting him disrupt the court. You see, there are two things in the world that most people do not know about other people. If they like you, you can do no wrong. You can rape puppy dogs and they will suck your dick. But if they do not like you, you could cure cancer, put a Man on Mars, negotiate world peace and everything you do is wrong somehow. They will find fault with it. Just like news sources, some who have published some radical shit (yes shit) in the past are summarily dismissed, even though you can verify their stories now, just because it came from them you are not interested. All this shit is called throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Go ahead, as long as it is your baby. T^T

WhoreMods -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 1:30:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or And picking on the Nazis, the only thing about them is the camps and the near genocide. Quite a big thing, surely? I know you don't like jews or any of the other untermensch they were keen on wiping out, but you're overlooking a lot of other destructive, unpleasant and downright stupid shit they got up to, very little of which can be blamed on external circumstances.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 1:52:38 PM)
FR It has nothing to do with political correctness or the Left being totalitarian, it has to do with capitalism. Twitter is of the opinion that continuing to allow those people to post will negatively impact their bottom line. It's the market in action, so you right wing types really should be applauding it.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 2:09:16 PM)
Why is almost everything either left or right?? Why are things always put into a political box? Why can't people be viewed as just... people; with no political bias affiliated to it? I just don't geddit with most Americans.

MercTech -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 3:00:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or You see, there are two things in the world that most people do not know about other people. If they like you, you can do no wrong. You can rape puppy dogs and they will suck your dick. But if they do not like you, you could cure cancer, put a Man on Mars, negotiate world peace and everything you do is wrong somehow. They will find fault with it. Just like news sources, some who have published some radical shit (yes shit) in the past are summarily dismissed, even though you can verify their stories now, just because it came from them you are not interested. All this shit is called throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Go ahead, as long as it is your baby. T^T What was that scientist's name... Matt Taylor. His transgression was to wear a shirt, hand made by his GF, to the completion party for the Rosetta Project. Gasp, the media wonk that ambushed him for an interview was so offended that his hand made shirt hat portrayals of risque clad females the wanted him fired. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/392929/shirtgate-and-common-decency-jonah-goldberg At the moment I feel I should be handcuffed to my chair so strong the urge to get involved in a grand niece's schooling. (What relationship is an aunt's grandchild.. hmmm) It seems that the school recommends counseling and possible medication for ADHD because she keeps building things and modifying things for re-purposing and bringing them so school and that is seen as "risky behavior". (Note: female middle schooler. Took a box of defunct electronics and made functional robotic toys of of them. My aunt is miffed at me because I'm the one that gave her tech to play with when I cleaned out my old work shed.)

PeonForHer -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 3:07:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick FR It has nothing to do with political correctness or the Left being totalitarian, it has to do with capitalism. Twitter is of the opinion that continuing to allow those people to post will negatively impact their bottom line. It's the market in action, so you right wing types really should be applauding it. It really does boil down to that, doesn't it? All these people criticising what a private company wants to do in order to pursue the best chance of profit. How authoritarian.

Nnanji -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 4:25:15 PM)
Concur. Except we get back to the gay cake. Does a business have the right to decline work?

PeonForHer -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 4:31:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Concur. Except we get back to the gay cake. Does a business have the right to decline work? Yes, of course - just as Twitter has the right to decline right wing rants. All else is political correctness gone mad, etc, as right wingers have been wailing at us all from time immemorial. Freedom rules; the free market rules. Tragically, that principle now seems to be hurting right wingers. I guess they're just going to have to reap what they've sown. What else is there to be said?

Nnanji -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 4:34:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Concur. Except we get back to the gay cake. Does a business have the right to decline work? Yes, of course - just as Twitter has the right to decline right wing rants. All else is political correctness gone mad, etc, as right wingers have been wailing at us all from time immemorial. Freedom rules; the free market rules. Tragically, that principle now seems to be hurting right wingers. I guess they're just going to have to reap what they've sown. What else is there to be said? I don't think the right wingers will mind. Why are you supposing it will tragic?

PeonForHer -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 4:39:07 PM)
quote: I don't think the right wingers will mind. Why are you supposing it will tragic? Fair point - they can always get their Truth About the World from Fox News.

stef -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 4:44:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: I don't think the right wingers will mind. Why are you supposing it will tragic? Fair point - they can always get their Truth About the World from Fox News. They mind. James woods dropped his own flounce tweet today after other deplorables were shown the door. I doubt he'll be the only one.

Nnanji -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 4:50:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Concur. Except we get back to the gay cake. Does a business have the right to decline work? Yes, of course - just as Twitter has the right to decline right wing rants. All else is political correctness gone mad, etc, as right wingers have been wailing at us all from time immemorial. Freedom rules; the free market rules. Tragically, that principle now seems to be hurting right wingers. I guess they're just going to have to reap what they've sown. What else is there to be said? Oh wait, historically it's the left wing nuts that insist on equal time for their views despite whether or not people want to listen. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fcc-eliminates-fairness-doctrine-rules-225933 Bound to get the most attention, though, is ditching the Fairness Doctrine, an idea that was meant to force radio broadcasters into offering as much left-wing political content as they offer right-wing commentary. Although the doctrine has not been enforced since President Ronald Reagan deemed it unnecessary at best and an infringement on free speech at worst, the rule was still technically on the books. Liberal commentators like Bill Press and some Democratic lawmakers, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and California Sen. Barbara Boxer, were agitating for its enforcement again, though Genachowski has resisted, and on Monday he announced that the demise of the Fairness Doctrine would soon be official policy. While the Fairness Doctrine was designed to ensure equal sides of controversial issues were discussed over the airways, its effect was to discourage the discussion of politics entirely on the radio because executives were unsure as to how a vague standard of "fairness" would be applied by regulators. When the Fairness Doctrine went away for all practical purposes in 1987, it paved the way for Rush Limbaugh and a flood of conservative talk radio hosts who came after him, much to the dismay of some on the other side of the political spectrum.

PeonForHer -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 5:05:54 PM)
quote: Oh wait, historically it's the left wing nuts that insist on equal time for their views despite whether or not people want to listen. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fcc-eliminates-fairness-doctrine-rules-225933 Bound to get the most attention, though, is ditching the Fairness Doctrine, an idea that was meant to force radio broadcasters into offering as much left-wing political content as they offer right-wing commentary. Although the doctrine has not been enforced since President Ronald Reagan deemed it unnecessary at best and an infringement on free speech at worst, the rule was still technically on the books. Liberal commentators like Bill Press and some Democratic lawmakers, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and California Sen. Barbara Boxer, were agitating for its enforcement again, though Genachowski has resisted, and on Monday he announced that the demise of the Fairness Doctrine would soon be official policy. While the Fairness Doctrine was designed to ensure equal sides of controversial issues were discussed over the airways, its effect was to discourage the discussion of politics entirely on the radio because executives were unsure as to how a vague standard of "fairness" would be applied by regulators. When the Fairness Doctrine went away for all practical purposes in 1987, it paved the way for Rush Limbaugh and a flood of conservative talk radio hosts who came after him, much to the dismay of some on the other side of the political spectrum. Yes, it's sad, isn't it? Everything is unfair these days. Unfortunately, with regard to Twitter, it's unfair for right wingers. Like I said: you're now reaping what you've sown.

MrRodgers -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 5:26:13 PM)
Still amuses me how you kinkroids still fail to get it. The popularity of all social media has created a profit center so as always in America...you follow the fucking money. Lies and issues make fucking money and some of the most outlandish lies right and left...are proving to go viral and thus can make a profit. Check out youtube, facebook and yes...now fucking twitter. They will all have their course of fame and will all also, begin to die on the vine.

Nnanji -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 7:49:24 PM)
https://www.fastcompany.com/3065777/inside-gab-the-new-twitter-alternative-championed-by-the-alt-right

Wayward5oul -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 8:56:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech At the moment I feel I should be handcuffed to my chair so strong the urge to get involved in a grand niece's schooling. (What relationship is an aunt's grandchild.. hmmm) It seems that the school recommends counseling and possible medication for ADHD because she keeps building things and modifying things for re-purposing and bringing them so school and that is seen as "risky behavior". (Note: female middle schooler. Took a box of defunct electronics and made functional robotic toys of of them. My aunt is miffed at me because I'm the one that gave her tech to play with when I cleaned out my old work shed.) Oh for FFS get involved! The school should be encouraging that shit. They should be finding competitions that she could enter with things that she creates. They should be finding local organizations that cater to students who have that interest. Colleges WANT kids like that, especially females, because there are so few. Is there a magnet school around that she could consider? I am deadly serious about this. I have been working with magnet schools that draw these types of students for the past 15 years, and I have seen how much of a difference it can make for the child. I know I am sounding a little over the top here, but its because i know what can happen when you have a kid who has some sort of urge like what you are talking about, and the unforeseen ways that they grow and prosper when they are allowed to indulge in those urges and really explore those interests.

Edwird -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/18/2016 11:59:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech At the moment I feel I should be handcuffed to my chair so strong the urge to get involved in a grand niece's schooling. (What relationship is an aunt's grandchild.. hmmm) Your grand niece/nephew would be the child of your brother/sister's child, i.e. your nephew or niece's child. Your aunt/uncle's grandchild would be your first cousin, once removed, which would in your case be the generational equivalent of a niece, not a grand niece. A first cousin, once removed is either your mom/dad's first cousin, like an aunt/uncle, OR your first cousin's child, like a niece/nephew. Generationally speaking. First cousins meet up at the grand parents, second cousins' first common relatives at great grand parents, etc. A second cousin, twice removed, is either one of your grand parent's second cousin, OR one of your second cousin's grand child. Franklin and Elanor were 5th cousins, once removed, which means they were actually 6 generations apart, though she being born only two years after he was. Her 5G grand parents and Franklin's 6G grandparents were the same (G-dad in question having passed in 1740), which put them ~ 50X further apart than typically the case in British or European Monarchy, or otherwise ~ 1,000 times further apart than typical Spanish Hapsburg pairings. Yes, I know, I just absolutely made your day with that info, but no need to thank me, honest.

MrRodgers -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/19/2016 10:18:21 AM)
Well speaking of cousins and to put a fine point on them and first cousins in particular...this is funny. HERE

Edwird -> RE: Twitter being Left Wing Nazis (11/19/2016 3:35:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird Franklin and Elanor were 5th cousins, once removed, which means they were actually 6 generations apart, though she being born only two years after he was. Her 5G grand parents and Franklin's 6G grandparents were the same (G-dad in question having passed in 1740), ... I had that backwards for the Roosevelts; it was Elanor's 6G grand parents and Franklin's 5G grandparents that were common to them.

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