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RE: Women Drivers - 12/1/2016 11:12:33 AM   
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I don't know ... if you let them drive, then they want to vote and be treated as equals and shit.



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They'll be treated as equals when they demonstrate a fucking ability to act like equals. You know, by doing things like taking responsibility for their actions. Shit like that.

One of the ironic aspects about feminism is their desire for women to be treated as equals, except when that involves accountability for their actions - then all of a sudden they have no agency and are just victims of the evil mens.


I know that women are freaking out in Texas because they are being held responsible for the proper burial/cremation of the remains of the baby they chose to abort.

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/1/2016 11:28:46 AM   
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the remains of a fetus.

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/1/2016 11:58:01 AM   
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tamaka. I really cannot see a point to this post.Arab countries in general have their own rules/laws/ways.
wait until your new President comes in, he will probably wreck the country, if not the world.
ps I am a professional driver, and female.

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/2/2016 6:26:27 AM   
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Rape her to death. Right? No punishment is too harsh.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2312363/woman-in-saudi-arabia-faces-calls-for-her-execution-after-being-pictured-without-a-hijab/

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/2/2016 7:35:35 AM   
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If Americans find the Saudis' legal system, culture and conduct in general so repellant, maybe they should stop buying oil from them, then?

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/2/2016 7:58:24 AM   
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If Americans find the Saudis' legal system, culture and conduct in general so repellant, maybe they should stop buying oil from them, then?

We're working on it.

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/2/2016 9:29:25 AM   
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You've been claiming that since Carter was the President, and little has happened to improve the situation since then.

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/2/2016 3:07:54 PM   
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the remains of a fetus.

Which is a human being in the early stages of development.

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 4:53:02 AM   
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FR to the OP.

If they want to let em drive, that's fine but under 2 conditions.

1. No cell phones
2. No cruise control usage allowed in the left lane

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 5:20:17 AM   
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the remains of a fetus.

Which is a human being in the early stages of development.


they have to dissemble and keep using the word "fetus" because "baby" humanizes the situation into their realization concerning the horrors of an abortion.



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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 5:39:19 AM   
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the remains of a fetus.

Which is a human being in the early stages of development.


they have to dissemble and keep using the word "fetus" because "baby" humanizes the situation into their realization concerning the horrors of an abortion.






I agree. I actually kind of recoiled at the coldness of that comment.

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 5:46:12 AM   
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Then of course there are the 14 million religious tourist that go there every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Saudi_Arabia


You are seriously considering muslims who goes to their holy mecca to pray as "tourists"?

Do you know, there is a quota for every country? For even that! It's not even tourism.

Imagine if US issues a quota for every country of how many of their christians CAN enter per annum.

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 5:51:26 AM   
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they have to dissemble and keep using the word "fetus" because "baby" humanizes the situation into their realization concerning the horrors of an abortion.

Not really. There is an official term for everything. Fetus is the official term of what it is, when still inside the belly.

Every sperm is a potential baby. Every fetus is a potential baby. Women do miscarry ya know. And some even have this fetus grow outside their womb. And they gotta remove it anyway, or it will die inside or outside.

All I can say is, as someone who had a mother who is pro-life. She certainly dedicated her life to making my fucking life miserable BECAUSE her religion didn't permit her to abort me!

It would have been mercy and kindness towards me if she had aborted me instead! But she was so selfish and wants to go to heaven, so she couldn't do it.

And I am an authority on this, since I am literally an unplanned and unwanted baby. Which my father wanted her to abort. In that situation, the KINDEST thing she could have done is abort, unless she actually wanted the child. But she did not. So both are literally forced to have a baby they do not want. One BECAUSE of religion, and the other because he is the man and has no say and can't force her to abort.

So I will always support abortion, because no children deserves parents who do not love them. And there is zero purpose on forcing people to have kids when they don't want it! And can't care for it.

BTW, in my mother's case, it's not even her fault she got pregnant with me. She never had her menstruation all her life. She was told she was barren. She didn't know she could have kids because all the doctors told her, it's impossible for her to have kids if she didn't bleed.

If she knew she would have planned and not have an unwanted baby. So it was like not even her fault she got pregnant when the doctors got it wrong.

And here is another thing. Pro-Life people always paint adoption like it's such a beautiful world. But it seems like reality is less than ideal. First of all, an adopted child runs a risk of living with the knowledge that their own birth parents do not want them. That is mental torture for life for them. No matter how good their adoptive parents are, may never replace the feeling of being rejected from birth by their own parents.

It is not okay! It is not an okay solution!

Abortion is kindness!

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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 6:25:04 AM   
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the remains of a fetus.



Which is a human being in the early stages of development.



they have to dissemble and keep using the word "fetus" because "baby" humanizes the situation into their realization concerning the horrors of an abortion.



At least it wasn't the other favorite of baby murderers, everywhere: "It's just a useless lump of protoplasm!"



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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 6:27:24 AM   
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Abortion is kindness!



If you really believe this, it's too bad your mother was so religious.



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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 6:51:17 AM   
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they have to dissemble and keep using the word "fetus" because "baby" humanizes the situation into their realization concerning the horrors of an abortion.

Not really. There is an official term for everything. Fetus is the official term of what it is, when still inside the belly.

Every sperm is a potential baby. Every fetus is a potential baby. Women do miscarry ya know. And some even have this fetus grow outside their womb. And they gotta remove it anyway, or it will die inside or outside.



greta please---we've been through this before and this has been discussed before.

a sperm is not a potential baby any more than sugar is a potential cake. it carries the genetic material to make a baby but must be united with the genetic material in the egg. when the sperm and egg are united, a baby is created.

the idea that since sperm is "wasted" in one form or another in no way justifies an abortion on the same grounds.

as far as "fetus"---yes, there are all sorts of medical terms that are used in order to differentiate stages of development. however, when a woman gets pregnant, when doctors talk with them about it, and when couples and families talk with each other---we talk and think in terms of "baby" not "fetus."

its only a "fetus" when one wants to distance oneself from its humanity.



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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 7:02:19 AM   
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---we talk and think in terms of "baby" not "fetus."

its only a "fetus" when one wants to distance oneself from its humanity.

Only in your mind and others who choose not to distinguish between fantasy and reality.

For many, it is only a baby when it becomes viable or is born.
Until then, it's a foetus, where anything could happen.



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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 9:26:48 AM   
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the remains of a fetus.



Which is a human being in the early stages of development.



they have to dissemble and keep using the word "fetus" because "baby" humanizes the situation into their realization concerning the horrors of an abortion.



At least it wasn't the other favorite of baby murderers, everywhere: "It's just a useless lump of protoplasm!"



Michael


not on this board...only 14 instances of protoplasm being used, 2 of them by you and two of them by bounty,
One of them was this....
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Dr. Lejeune explained that within three to seven days after fertilization we can determine if the new human being is a boy or a girl. "At no time," Dr. Lejeune said, "is the human being a blob of protoplasm. As far as your nature is concerned, I see no difference between the early person that you were at conception and the late person which you are now. You were, and are, a human being."

Apart from the fact that the sex is not determined until six to seven weeks, threw his whole rant into emotional bullshitter. THe pictures are pretty tho arent they.
But facts dont matter.
Did you know that nipples form before sex organs do? thats why men have nipples.




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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 9:35:02 AM   
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the remains of a fetus.

Which is a human being in the early stages of development.


they have to dissemble and keep using the word "fetus" because "baby" humanizes the situation into their realization concerning the horrors of an abortion.






I agree. I actually kind of recoiled at the coldness of that comment.

oh dear, Im sorry, clinically detached is the terminology, as I am very passionate about the right of women to control what happens to their bodies. You would and should know that from my past discussions on abortion.
If you would like me to be emotional about it I can be.
But from my own experience, professionally and personally, I can be cold, I can be heartless for the stone cold bullshit and ignorance thrown out here,
Its factual.
Recoil away. Emotions are great.



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RE: Women Drivers - 12/4/2016 9:45:42 AM   
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its only a "fetus" when one wants to distance oneself from its humanity.



I posted this in another thread...http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4975659
If you look at the latest figures, maternal mortality and self induced abortions are growing hugely in states where abortion has been curtailed.

maybe they can do this to women in texas, once they have "defunded" PP

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/us/tennessee-woman-accused-of-coat-hanger-abortion-faces-new-charges.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=RelatedCoverage®ion=Marginalia&pgtype=article

Tennessee Woman Accused of Coat-Hanger Abortion Attempt Faces New Charges
A Tennessee woman who is accused of trying to abort her fetus at 24 weeks with a coat hanger last year is facing new felony charges, in a case that has raised concerns among some abortion-rights advocates over strict abortion laws.

The case concerning the woman, Anna Yocca, 32, has wound its way through the courts in Rutherford County for nearly a year, seesawing between multiple charges in three indictments as she has continued to sit in a central Tennessee jail.

On Monday, Ms. Yocca was arraigned on new charges: aggravated assault, an attempt to procure a miscarriage and an attempted criminal abortion. She entered a plea of not guilty, The Daily News Journal reported.

Ms. Yocca’s public defender, Gerald Melton, did not respond to multiple requests for comment by email or telephone. Hugh Ammerman, the Rutherford County assistant district attorney who is prosecuting the case, could not be reached early on Tuesday.

Ms. Yocca was first charged on Dec. 8, 2015, with the attempted murder of her 24-week-old fetus in September 2015. She was booked into the Rutherford County jail, where she has remained, with bond set at $200,000. She is expected to return to court on Dec. 9, The Journal reported.

The case has pitted abortion-rights advocates against defenders of the state’s anti-abortion laws, which are among the strictest in the country.

The authorities have said that Ms. Yocca climbed into a bathtub in September 2015 and tried to “self-abort” her pregnancy, which caused her to bleed so profusely that she was taken to a hospital, The Murfreesboro Post reported, quoting a police report.

The baby, a boy, was delivered alive by cesarean section at the hospital, weighing 1.5 pounds, but he had injuries, The Murfreesboro Post reported. The police report, quoting unidentified physicians, blamed Ms. Yocca’s probing with the hanger, but it offered no medical evidence for what the indictment called bodily injury, and similar health problems are often associated with extreme prematurity.

When contacted for a copy of the report, Sergeant Kyle Evans, a spokesman for the Murfreesboro Police Department, referred calls to the district attorney’s office.

The case has drawn attention to strict abortion laws, and in some cases the criminalization of the procedure, as President-elect Donald J. Trump prepares to take office. During his presidential campaign, Mr. Trump pledged to roll back the abortion rights guaranteed by the 1973 Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision, and he suggested “punishment” for abortion providers and their patients. In his first prime-time television interview after he won the presidency, he repeated his desire to see Roe v. Wade overturned and said, of women seeking abortions, “Well, they’ll perhaps have to go — they’ll have to go to another state.”

“I think that this is a very shocking case and one that is incredibly tragic,” said Allison Glass, the director of Healthy and Free Tennessee, which promotes sexual health. “This is not a common case for Tennessee, but with the threat of Roe being overturned,” she added, “that is absolutely where we are headed.”

Tennessee Right to Life representatives did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

The baby was initially placed in foster care. Last week Rob Johnson, a spokesman for the Tennessee Department of Children’s Services, said by telephone that the child was “safe” but no longer in state custody. Citing confidentiality, he declined to answer further questions.

The law in Tennessee permits abortions after 24 weeks — about the limit for fetal viability outside the womb, doctors say — if the woman’s life or health is at risk. It also requires women to receive state-directed counseling and wait 48 hours before the procedure, which necessitates multiple trips to a clinic.

Ms. Glass said that only four out of 95 counties in Tennessee had abortion clinics, and that Rutherford County was not one of them.

Lynn M. Paltrow, the executive director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women, which is helping with Ms. Yocca’s defense, said the case was one of several high-profile instances showing what can happen when prosecutors apply criminal law to women’s pregnancies.

Last year, an Indiana woman, Purvi Patel, was sentenced to 20 years in prison after she was convicted of feticide for taking pills to terminate her pregnancy, and then delivering a baby who, the jury found, died from neglect. The conviction was vacated on appeal.

In some states pregnant women have been charged with attempted feticide for falling down stairs; for not wearing a seatbelt; and for trying to commit suicide while pregnant, Ms. Paltrow said.

In Ms. Yocca’s case, Ms. Paltrow said, “It is absolutely not clear to us that her intention was to have an abortion, as opposed to having an early birth at home, or some other reason.”

“This is the problem around the criminal justice system being involved in pregnancy outcomes,” she added. “In a country where more and more things have been criminalized, there is a virtually limitless number of crimes that prosecutors can chose from if we allow pregnancy to become the subject of criminal justice and court systems.”


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