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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 12:19:35 PM   
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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 12:19:41 PM   
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Spending the billions anywhere else that actually would yield results?

Infrastructure comes to mind.


What benefit does infrastucture bring the country as opposed to getting immigration more under control?

What actual harm do these "illegals" do?

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 12:20:48 PM   
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Spending the billions anywhere else that actually would yield results?

Infrastructure comes to mind.


What benefit does infrastucture bring the country as opposed to getting immigration more under control?

What actual harm do these "illegals" do?

Oh you had to go and ask that...

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 12:40:54 PM   
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I have no issues with foreign cultures and Delight is the reaction to finally getting shit done.

And BTW, if ya think the wall, or a fence, ditch or moat is silly, what would you suggest?


The Nazis didn't openly claim to have issues with foreign cultures either, so long as they were confined to their own space. No matter how much people tiptoe around the issue or feign outrage at the illegality of it all-- the real reason some people are so aggressively opposed to amnesty and prefer a ridiculously expensive, completely ineffective wall is because they don't want an influx of Latinos taking over 'their' nation, and the wall represents a barrier between the white majority and the foreign hordes. That's really all it is and will ever be-- a symbol of their own fear of the other.

They've already tried going after the illegals themselves, it was expensive and didn't work. They've tried going after the people who employ them, it was expensive and didn't work. Amnesty is without a doubt the cheapest, easiest solution. Take the money that would have otherwise gone to task forces, processing and deportations and use it to beef up border security. The illegals will identify themselves and then they will have to compete with other legal workers with legal salaries and legal working conditions, which is sort of the whole point... except for the idiots who think these people must be punished and white America must be preserved. Meanwhile, border security has more money and resources to do their jobs more effectively.

It's a good idea that was derailed by retarded conspiracy theorists who think it's about manufacturing democrat voters, racists who want everyone to worry about the future of the white race, and the GOP politicians who need to spin everything into a doomsday scenario in order to win, but who probably never imagined the result would be someone as disgusting as Trump.

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 12:49:04 PM   
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Spending the billions anywhere else that actually would yield results?

Infrastructure comes to mind.


What benefit does infrastucture bring the country as opposed to getting immigration more under control?

What actual harm do these "illegals" do?


I think the more appropriate question is: What benefit is there to getting immigration more under control.



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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 12:51:12 PM   
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Spending the billions anywhere else that actually would yield results?

Infrastructure comes to mind.


What benefit does infrastucture bring the country as opposed to getting immigration more under control?

What actual harm do these "illegals" do?


I think the more appropriate question is: What benefit is there to getting immigration more under control.




OK, so what is the benefit?

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 12:57:28 PM   
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I wonder what the Native American Tshirt would say..and I will include Mexicans within that remit.. America does not belong to the “Americans” ignoramuses I’d ship you back to whence thy came from except no one want you dim wits…So a nice detention island it would be where I am sure torture is legal…and they can torture some common sense into you lot along with a History lesson


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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 2:16:47 PM   
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Spending the billions anywhere else that actually would yield results?

Infrastructure comes to mind.


What benefit does infrastucture bring the country as opposed to getting immigration more under control?

What actual harm do these "illegals" do?


I think the more appropriate question is: What benefit is there to getting immigration more under control.




OK, so what is the benefit?


We can know who is here and control the numbers of people who come into our society at any given time. Would you just open your doors and allow strangers to over- run your house? Probably not the best idea.

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 2:49:51 PM   
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Would you just open your doors and allow strangers to over- run your house? Probably not the best idea.


... OK, which Native American chief said that? I can't quite remember ....




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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 2:51:10 PM   
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Would you just open your doors and allow strangers to over- run your house? Probably not the best idea.


... OK, which Native American chief said that? I can't quite remember ....



Sitting Bull, Geronimo, or Chief Joseph come to mind.



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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 2:54:51 PM   
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Would you just open your doors and allow strangers to over- run your house? Probably not the best idea.


... OK, which Native American chief said that? I can't quite remember ....





And your point is that instead of us focusing on 2017 you want us to look back and see where the Native Americans went wrong again?

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 2:55:53 PM   
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We can know who is here and control the numbers of people who come into our society at any given time.

They are already there.
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Would you just open your doors and allow strangers to over- run your house? Probably not the best idea.

Completely moronic simile, a country is not a house. Try again.

Now, how about you answer my question, what actual harm are the "illegals" doing?



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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 3:14:04 PM   
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We can know who is here and control the numbers of people who come into our society at any given time.

They are already there.
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Would you just open your doors and allow strangers to over- run your house? Probably not the best idea.

Completely moronic simile, a country is not a house. Try again.

Now, how about you answer my question, what actual harm are the "illegals" doing?




They are already here... and so you mean that no more are coming?

In the USA, many of us consider our country as our home. I'm sorry if you can't relate.

What harm... well, from my first- hand experience they have children here that we now have to pay for, they flood schools with non English speaking children, they use false documents to obtain jobs that an American citizen could use, they increase the need for services such as police, etc, they drive drunk on our roads, and stuff like that...

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 3:20:59 PM   
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well, from my first- hand experience they have children here that we now have to pay for, they flood schools with non English speaking children, they use false documents to obtain jobs that an American citizen could use, they increase the need for services such as police, etc, they drive drunk on our roads, and stuff like that...
So they behave exactly like US citizens then, so what's the problem, I would think they would fit right in? And what's wrong with non-English speaking people, English is not the official language of the US (hint: There is no official language of the US). What's more, I would think that your much vaunted freedom of speech would include the choice of language in which to do that speechifying, wouldn't you?


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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 5:00:37 PM   
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well, from my first- hand experience they have children here that we now have to pay for, they flood schools with non English speaking children, they use false documents to obtain jobs that an American citizen could use, they increase the need for services such as police, etc, they drive drunk on our roads, and stuff like that...
So they behave exactly like US citizens then, so what's the problem, I would think they would fit right in? And what's wrong with non-English speaking people, English is not the official language of the US (hint: There is no official language of the US). What's more, I would think that your much vaunted freedom of speech would include the choice of language in which to do that speechifying, wouldn't you?



What was i thinking? Of course ... the ability to communicate within a society isn't important at all.

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 5:02:25 PM   
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So they behave exactly like US citizens then, so what's the problem


SO ummm lets make a problem even worse by making America a borderless hippy paradise where any Tom, Dick, and Harry can rock up? This opens the door right open to the cartels and other shady type of people.

America already has it's baggage with it's own people, how is it logical to allow baggage from elsewhere to be welcomed in at open arms and no controlled measures which just makes problems even worse? Why not find a solution instead of just allowing the problem to keep happening? Do you have any realisation how fucking massive the trade is with the mexican cartels on the US border? You expect authorities to just allow this all to happen without thinking about the safety of their own people?

Man the left have dumb views.

To live in a stable and safe society, we must put our people first before others. Not the other way around.

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/5/2016 5:35:40 PM   
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well, from my first- hand experience they have children here that we now have to pay for, they flood schools with non English speaking children, they use false documents to obtain jobs that an American citizen could use, they increase the need for services such as police, etc, they drive drunk on our roads, and stuff like that...
So they behave exactly like US citizens then, so what's the problem, I would think they would fit right in? And what's wrong with non-English speaking people, English is not the official language of the US (hint: There is no official language of the US). What's more, I would think that your much vaunted freedom of speech would include the choice of language in which to do that speechifying, wouldn't you?



What was i thinking? Of course ... the ability to communicate within a society isn't important at all.


how many languages do you speak?


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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/6/2016 12:08:48 AM   
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You're right ... except when a lady in a short skirt (designed to attract attention) walks down the street and someone stops her and asks her why she chooses to look like a whore.

That would be an issue, right? If not, do you blame rape victims for dressing like they're "asking for it", too?


I knew this was coming.

It's because what constitutes 'dressing like a whore' is subjective, and even if her dress is deliberately whorish it also doesn't mean she is one, and even if she IS one and wants everyone to know, then at most she's asking to be confronted about being a whore. Unless of course she goes into some really sketchy neighborhood or frat party and act drunk or high or something... then yes, she probably is asking for it at least a little, but it doesn't mean that rape is okay. But of course, the intent has to be there... and dressing provocatively doesn't automatically signal intent.

Openly advertising your support of racist politics definitely means you support racist politics, and openly supporting racist politics in areas where you KNOW it's going to piss people off (especially after THIS election) is asking for it. He knew exactly what he was doing and he wanted to make a video about it... he's not the only one who does shit like this. This is exactly what he wanted and he got it... it's pretty obvious.

And before everyone starts talking about 'left-wing tolerance'-- no, violence is not okay. But neither is deliberately provoking people for fame or lulz or to prove a point you're not actually proving.
Sounds like an excuse to get out of responsibility for despicable actions.

Whether or not someone sees a wall going up on the border as racist depends on that person's perspective. The gentleman wearing the shirt may not think it is racist. The fact that someone else does...and thinks he's been provoked...and others agree...is the issue.

Some see burning the flag as a deplorable act. Some see it as treasonous. I'd be willing to bet these two assholes do not...they probably see it as the court has determined it-an act of free speech. They wouldn't care if, in doing so, they provoke someone. I wonder...would you see the violent response to flag burning as reasonable, given the provocation?

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/6/2016 2:07:16 AM   
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Some see burning the flag as a deplorable act. Some see it as treasonous. I'd be willing to bet these two assholes do not...they probably see it as the court has determined it-an act of free speech. They wouldn't care if, in doing so, they provoke someone. I wonder...would you see the violent response to flag burning as reasonable, given the provocation?


Myself, if I were to see someone burning a Union Jack here publicly, I *would* care that people could be provoked (and for reasons at least some of which I'd sympathise with). I'd expect hackles to go up and angry arguments to ensue. Violence is another matter - as it would have been had the two people been violent with the offending tee-shirt wearer.

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RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #B... - 12/6/2016 3:48:23 AM   
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Sounds like an excuse to get out of responsibility for despicable actions.


I'm not defending the actions, I'm saying that the provocation was there.

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Whether or not someone sees a wall going up on the border as racist depends on that person's perspective. The gentleman wearing the shirt may not think it is racist. The fact that someone else does...and thinks he's been provoked...and others agree...is the issue.


Anyone who wears clothing with a political message is at least being a little provocative. If it's a divisive message like that one, it's more provocative. If he's wearing it in a place where he knows there are going to be people who are sensitive about the issue, it's either deliberately looking for trouble or extreme ignorance.

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Some see burning the flag as a deplorable act. Some see it as treasonous. I'd be willing to bet these two assholes do not...they probably see it as the court has determined it-an act of free speech. They wouldn't care if, in doing so, they provoke someone. I wonder...would you see the violent response to flag burning as reasonable, given the provocation?


Yes, flag-burning is another one of those things that is intended to provoke people... but there's a difference between burning a flag at a protest over American imperialism and burning a flag at say, a military picnic on the 4th of July.

In either case, the person who is provoking the fight is not doing anything illegal, and the attacker is breaking the law... but just because it's legal doesn't mean it's ethical.

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