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Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 10:56:33 AM

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I'll commence by noting that 53% of white women voted for Trump. Despite the claims of sexual assault (which seem to have mysteriously vanished post-election) and the multiple references to pussy-groping, white women overwhelmingly voted for Trump 53% vs Hillary 43%.

Now here's the truth about Trump's remarks which the rather hysteria-susceptible nutcases on the left keep ignoring. Trump was right.

Power is, as they say, the ultimate aphrodisiac. And men with power can do pretty much what they want, because women.... well, women just can't help themselves.

When Trump talks about powerful men being able to grab women by the pussy, he's not talking about sexual assault - he's talking about the compliance men gain from women who are aroused by power.

So the hysteria, the claims of assault, the painting of Trump as a sexual abuser - it's all just typical leftist deception. An example of the inherent contradiction of an ideology which supports "slut walks" on one hand, but then suddenly avows that women are chaste and virginal when dealing with men of power.

Because I'll tell you something for free - it's not just billionaires who can grab women by the pussy.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:04:03 AM

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While all that's true, it's also true that Trump has said a number of bizarrely misogynistic things this year.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:08:43 AM

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Back when I was younger (and had a lot more hair), I was in a fairly popular (locally) band.

Not that there's any real "power" associated with that position, but it seemed that some ladies give musicians (and even drummers LOL) a sort of carte blanche.

I can attest to that, personally. Now, there's still a level of intuitiveness required. One has to have a sense of whether or not a move like that will be well received. Haven't a good many of us had experiences like this in this lifestyle?

I know I've been on first dates (or even serendipitous meetings) where, grabbing a young lady's hair and pulling her head back for a kiss worked out very well because she was "feelin' me" (however that phrase is defined).

By the same token, I've been told that there were times that I missed "the signs" and didn't make a move and (as far as she was concerned) missed any chance of anything developing because I wasn't "dominant enough" for her (I failed to make a move).

Since that audio tape emerged (and Fuck that Billy Bush in the ass, by the way. He's a journalist like I'm a rocket scientist. He broke one of the major, time-honored tenets of journalism: Off the record is OFF THE FUCKING RECORD), I have been saying that lefties heard what they wanted to hear; that President-Elect Trump was just stating some facts of life.

Of course it fell on deaf ears. Selective hearing, interpretation, moving moral goal posts are all part of the Alinsky theme.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:12:12 AM

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Agreed also with the musician thing. If you can't pick up women from the stage, you aren't trying.

I'd submit, though, that right and left are culpable in hearing what they want. It's why fake news flourishes.

And it's why the rest of us are tired of both the right and the left.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:23:59 AM

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While all that's true, it's also true that Trump has said a number of bizarrely misogynistic things this year.

The label 'misogynist' is thrown around carelessly.

He can call Meagan Kelly whatever he likes. She's a fucking blonde airhead who cut her hair short and now suddenly thinks she has credibility. That thick-as-a-brick piece of ass is a fucking parody of a journalist. Trump saying she was bleeding from her vagina is a fucking metaphor.

Here's the thing about being offended: Who fucking cares? In an example of the hypocrisy of the left, Stephen Fry is known for a quote of his which went thusly:

quote:

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what.

Now, interestingly Stephen was talking about religion. So offending religious people is just fine, but he's a magnificent hypocrite who gets offended when people say anything less than positive about gay people.

Well, in response to Stephen and the hypocrisy of the Left, I am moved to say, "You find that offensive? So fucking what?"

By the way - being a misogynist in no way implies you can't be a good President. Not that the misogynist label is a valid criticism, anyway. It's not.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:26:16 AM

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Yup, I can't agree more.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:26:33 AM

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Your rant aside, and whether he's justified or not, it's still pretty clearly misogynist, and if someone wants to call him on it (so fucking what or not), that someone would be correct in asserting misogyny on his part.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:28:17 AM

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Your rant aside, and whether he's justified or not, it's still pretty clearly misogynist, and if someone wants to call him on it (so fucking what or not), that someone would be correct in asserting misogyny on his part.

A misoygnist is someone who hates and fears women. Cite some examples of Trump's "misogyny" if you please.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:30:57 AM

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Now you're just being a child.

So much for critical thinking.

You're also not good with vocabulary:

mi·sog·y·nist
məˈsäjənəst/
noun
noun: misogynist; plural noun: misogynists

1.
a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.
synonyms: woman-hater; More
antifeminist, (male) chauvinist, sexist, hater;
informalmale chauvinist pig
"he apparently deserved his reputation as a misogynist"

adjective
adjective: misogynist

1.
relating to or characteristic of a misogynist.
"a misogynist attitude"

But hey, rant away.

Have fun.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 11:33:23 AM

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No, that is a reinvention of the word. Misogyny is the fear and hatred of women. It is not someone who is "strongly prejudiced", that is a corruption formed by those who have a problem with vocabulary.

Cite examples of Trump's "misogyny". Put up or shut up. Come up with some evidence or stop lying.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 12:07:22 PM

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lol. This is beyond ridiculous.

You are now the arbitrator of denotation, not the dictionary.

Re-invention indeed.

You are absurd.

Rant on if it pleases you. Pretend anything you want. But...won't make it true.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:20:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Now you're just being a child.

So much for critical thinking.

You're also not good with vocabulary:

mi·sog·y·nist
məˈsäjənəst/
noun
noun: misogynist; plural noun: misogynists

1.
a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.
synonyms: woman-hater; More
antifeminist, (male) chauvinist, sexist, hater;
informalmale chauvinist pig
"he apparently deserved his reputation as a misogynist"

adjective
adjective: misogynist

1.
relating to or characteristic of a misogynist.
"a misogynist attitude"

But hey, rant away.

Have fun.

Funny how I don't see how your post contradicts what he said.

T^T

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:24:08 PM

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Gynophobia is the fear and hatred of women. Please don't fuck up the English language.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:26:38 PM

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why not asking trump's barber for some hair-splitting lessons?

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:28:25 PM

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Genau, und fantastische!

GroBe Genau, Ganz Genau, Sofiel Genau, and Ganz GroBe Genug Genau.

Good joke, kiddo.

LOL. I like saying that.... Genug Genau.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:44:35 PM

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quote:

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lol. This is beyond ridiculous.

You are now the arbitrator of denotation, not the dictionary.

Re-invention indeed.

You are absurd.

Rant on if it pleases you. Pretend anything you want. But...won't make it true.

Misoygny is the HATRED of women. Misusing it does not change the definition.

It derives from the Greek misogynia - a conjunction of 'misein' (to hate) and 'gynē' (woman).

Misogyny is hatred of women. If your vocabulary is so poor you need to consult a leftist dictionary on what is a pretty basic word, then you're too stupid to be involved in any discussion of merit.

Talk to the trees. If they reply, you're insane.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:45:41 PM

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Gynophobia is the fear and hatred of women. Please don't fuck up the English language.

Ironic, coming from someone who can't use it to save his fucking life.

Perhaps when you can string a sentence together someone will take you seriously. It's unlikely to be me, but thank you for playing.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:48:14 PM

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why not asking trump's barber for some hair-splitting lessons?

Yep, I tend to agree. Here's the long argument, with my reasons for agreeing emboldened:

"Misogyny: Does It Mean Hate or Bias?
By Ben Zimmer
May 30, 2014 6:49 p.m. ET
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Soon after the murderous rampage in Isla Vista, Calif., that police say was perpetrated by Elliot Rodger, lexicographers at Merriam-Webster tracking look-ups in their online dictionary noticed that one word was skyrocketing: "misogyny."

In an email, Mr. Rodger had written, "My hatred and rage towards all women festered inside me like a plague. Their very existence is the cause of all of my torture, pain and suffering throughout my life." By Monday, "misogyny" had climbed to the top of the look-up chart. It remained there over the next few days, as opinion pieces and Twitter posts, spurred on by the #YesAllWomen hashtag, dissected the nature of misogyny.
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Social Media Campaign Sparks Debate on Targeting of Women

Merriam-Webster associate editor Kory Stamper says this is hardly the first time the news has inspired people to look up the entry for "misogyny." It happened twice in 2012: when Rush Limbaugh made disparaging comments about Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke after she testified on Capitol Hill about contraception, and again when Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard accused opposition leader Tony Abbott of "misogyny and sexism."

Those who looked up "misogyny" in Merriam-Webster's online dictionary would find a terse definition: "a hatred of women." Etymologically speaking, that is right on the money, as the word combines the Greek root for "woman" with the prefix "miso-" meaning "hatred" (also found in "misandry," a hatred of men, and "misanthropy," a hatred of humankind).

But given the modern usage of the word, is that definition in need of a rewrite? From the evidence that Mr. Rodger left behind, it is easy to diagnose him as having an abiding hatred for women, but few of the critics of Messrs. Limbaugh and Abbott would go so far in describing their attitudes. The "misogyny" at issue in those two incidents, as well as the kind typically discussed this past week under the banner of #YesAllWomen, has more to do with ingrained prejudices against women than a pathological hatred of them.

The Oxford English Dictionary revised its definition of "misogyny" back in 2002, changing it from "hatred of women" to "hatred or dislike of, or prejudice against women." And after Ms. Gillard gave her "misogyny" speech in 2012, the editor of Australia's Macquarie Dictionary acknowledged that their definition was in need of a similar expansion.

Ms. Stamper says that while Merriam-Webster continues to re-evaluate its definitions, the editors currently believe that "hatred" is "broad enough to encompass everything from feelings of dislike to entrenched prejudice and hostility."

Steve Kleinedler, executive editor of the American Heritage Dictionary, says that its definition of "misogyny" ("hatred or mistrust of women") is also under review, indicating just how lexicographers are grappling with the word's shifting usage."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/misogyny-has-its-meaning-shifted-1401490009

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:55:30 PM

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I find the man disgustig, repulsive and an embarrassment. I have said this from day one. That said, I think he has often had his words twisted and taken out of context. Which, in my opinion, is ridiculous. He says enough stupid shit that it really shouldn't be necessary to twist or misrepresent his words.

I don't think he is a misogynist. I think he equally looks down on people in general, depending on what they have to offer him. I consider him at best, a grifter.

For better or worse, once he is sworn in, he becomes my President, and I will hope for the best and respect the position.

I will be keeping a closer eye on world affairs and econmic trends. In a global economy, hubris and ignorance can be a catalyst for some wide reaching devastation. It is my opinion that President Elect, Donald Trump is rich in both; hubris and ignorance.

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RE: Here's the truth about grabbing 'em by the pussy - 12/9/2016 2:57:20 PM

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By controlling language you control thought.

"According to Orwell, what will happen to any democratic society if clarity in language collapses? He predicts that the society itself will collapse. Bad use of language makes it easy for us to have foolish and absolutely incorrect ideas. Distorted language can distort us, corrupt us and make us so stupid we won't know lies when we hear them. We won't question our leaders. We won't have the language tools to enable us to speak the truth. Turn on the major media TV news and listen to the politicians twisting truth into something unrecognizable—their words depending solely on a great vacancy between our ears—and you will (perhaps) have a Joycean epiphany, a moment of illumination that Orwell was right to warn us and that we as a people ignore him at our peril."

Feminist attempts to redefine language are an attempt to control thought. Totalitarianism at its finest.

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