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bounty44 -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 4:13:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
The problem is that the media overestimated the voters. They thought that Trump was a joke... like any intelligent person, they looked at him and thought 'how could anyone possibly support this incompetent asshole?'. They couldn't resist mocking him, repeating every insane thing he said, giving him all of this free press and free attention... and people ended up listening to what he was saying simply because they couldn't look away... and because they were stupid and desperate enough to buy into some of it.


the very pompous, ignorant, and out of touch "elite" thinking that the authors I repeatedly posted in the "Hillary concedes" thread were talking about, on display right there.




bounty44 -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 4:18:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
That's because you are such a wimp.


Real men look forward to environmental, social and economic collapse.


in the recent past id only been using these for mnavevolent, but its quite appropriate here:

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heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 4:29:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
the very pompous, ignorant, and out of touch "elite" thinking that the authors I repeatedly posted in the "Hillary concedes" thread were talking about, on display right there.


Part of the problem was that they treated people with too much respect when they really should have been talking down to them.




WhoreMods -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 4:34:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
That's because you are such a wimp.


Real men look forward to environmental, social and economic collapse.

That's the whole survivalist philosophy in a nutshell, really. (More "inadequate pussies who believe that they're real men", if we're honest, but that's how they see themselves, even if nobody else does.)




thishereboi -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 5:34:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
That's because you are such a wimp.


Real men look forward to environmental, social and economic collapse.


No they don't, they go out and do things to change it.

But I do feel bad that you are dreading the coming year, perhaps with your superior health care you could find someone to talk to about that.




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 5:41:01 AM)

Obama announces attacks on Russia

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-says-us-retaliate-against-russian-hacking-022451853.html?ref=gs




heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 6:07:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
No they don't, they go out and do things to change it.


If only the people who were whining about their precious factory jobs going overseas had taken your advice... then they might have picked up some new skills and adapted instead of asking Trump to ruin the economy so they could still feel like men.




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 6:19:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
No they don't, they go out and do things to change it.


If only the people who were whining about their precious factory jobs going overseas had taken your advice... then they might have picked up some new skills and adapted instead of asking Trump to ruin the economy so they could still feel like men.


Aww. Did those sniveling voters who need work rain on poor multimillionaire Hillary's parade?

After she promised them welfare? What insensitive bastards!




Musicmystery -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 7:14:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
No they don't, they go out and do things to change it.


If only the people who were whining about their precious factory jobs going overseas had taken your advice... then they might have picked up some new skills and adapted instead of asking Trump to ruin the economy so they could still feel like men.

Well that's not really fair. In many cases, they've worked all their lives at this plant, and it's what they know. It's what pays the bills, the insurance, the retirement. And education and retraining in this country are very costly.

At the same time, politicians are regularly playing them, aided by popular mis-belief. More jobs are lost to automation than to overseas plants, but to stop improving productivity and efficiency isn't a solution. Nor is pretending things will change -- Obama's support of exports helped, but it's a very partial solution. Rebuilding our infrastructure would benefit many, and needs doing, but costs money. Politicians want it both ways--Republicans have blocked infrastructure bills for years now.

We could do what other countries are doing and invest in alternative energy technology, which would create a lot of new manufacturing jobs. But the US is heavily committed to propping up oil and gas.

I agree that workers would be best helped by doing for themselves what no one else is doing, but I also acknowledge that it's not an easy thing to do necessarily or to know how to do successfully when everything is riding on it being successful. Most, understandably, do it when they are finally without a job and have no choice.




heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:06:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Aww. Did those sniveling voters who need work rain on poor multimillionaire Hillary's parade?

After she promised them welfare? What insensitive bastards!


She actually promised huge investments in manufacturing and higher wages... the problem is that she didn't tell them they could keep their jobs/identities, because she knew it was impossible. They don't care about the industry, they don't care about their childrens' education.... they only care that they can keep being who they are.

Trump promised to destroy the environment and rip up international trade agreements even if it started a trade war, which is apparently what they responded to.




mnottertail -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:08:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Obama announces attacks on Russia

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-says-us-retaliate-against-russian-hacking-022451853.html?ref=gs


do you have a link of that?




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:26:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

She actually promised huge investments in manufacturing and higher wages... the problem is that she didn't tell them they could keep their jobs/identities, because she knew it was impossible. They don't care about the industry, they don't care about their childrens' education.... they only care that they can keep being who they are.

Trump promised to destroy the environment and rip up international trade agreements even if it started a trade war, which is apparently what they responded to.


Hillary was going to "invest" what money. Other peoples' money, that she had to first rip from the economy, divide up and then pay a whole lot of bureaucrats who would then redistribute whatever was left with standard government efficiency.

Right?

Sounds legit...





WhoreMods -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:34:21 AM)

So you're complaining about somebody who was in opposition to a notorious freeloader using other people's money?
That'd be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.




tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:44:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Aww. Did those sniveling voters who need work rain on poor multimillionaire Hillary's parade?

After she promised them welfare? What insensitive bastards!


She actually promised huge investments in manufacturing and higher wages... the problem is that she didn't tell them they could keep their jobs/identities, because she knew it was impossible. They don't care about the industry, they don't care about their childrens' education.... they only care that they can keep being who they are.

Trump promised to destroy the environment and rip up international trade agreements even if it started a trade war, which is apparently what they responded to.


The problem is that you have to bring companies back here... not just throw more money at it. Boy you aren't very smart are you.




BamaD -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:49:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44
the very pompous, ignorant, and out of touch "elite" thinking that the authors I repeatedly posted in the "Hillary concedes" thread were talking about, on display right there.


Part of the problem was that they treated people with too much respect when they really should have been talking down to them.

You don't think they talked down to us? You don't watch Amercian news do you? Clearly you favor arrogance.




BamaD -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:52:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Obama announces attacks on Russia

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-says-us-retaliate-against-russian-hacking-022451853.html?ref=gs


Hacking Hillary was no problem as long as all they were stealing was state secrets, but if they hacked the DNC, something has to be done about this.




BamaD -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:57:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Aww. Did those sniveling voters who need work rain on poor multimillionaire Hillary's parade?

After she promised them welfare? What insensitive bastards!


She actually promised huge investments in manufacturing and higher wages... the problem is that she didn't tell them they could keep their jobs/identities, because she knew it was impossible. They don't care about the industry, they don't care about their childrens' education.... they only care that they can keep being who they are.

Trump promised to destroy the environment and rip up international trade agreements even if it started a trade war, which is apparently what they responded to.

And while she didn't think they would understand this they did see that when 15 dollars an hour is the minimum wage $15 would have the same buying power that $10 does now. More people would slip into poverty and retired people would starve.




mnottertail -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 9:58:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Aww. Did those sniveling voters who need work rain on poor multimillionaire Hillary's parade?

After she promised them welfare? What insensitive bastards!


She actually promised huge investments in manufacturing and higher wages... the problem is that she didn't tell them they could keep their jobs/identities, because she knew it was impossible. They don't care about the industry, they don't care about their childrens' education.... they only care that they can keep being who they are.

Trump promised to destroy the environment and rip up international trade agreements even if it started a trade war, which is apparently what they responded to.


The problem is that you have to bring companies back here... not just throw more money at it. Boy you aren't very smart are you.


So far trump and the nutsuckers have thrown money at them, and they are leaving after they got the money, then those still staying out of those big pork payoffs are replacing workers with robots. No, the nutsuckers arent very smart.




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 10:17:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Obama announces attacks on Russia

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-says-us-retaliate-against-russian-hacking-022451853.html?ref=gs


Hacking Hillary was no problem as long as all they were stealing was state secrets, but if they hacked the DNC, something has to be done about this.


Right, now it's time to start WW III. The kicker is that there is NO EVIDENCE that it was Russia. Not even as much evidence that say, Saddam had WMDs. This is on par with the claims that the Benghazi attack was because of a YouTube video.

Thats why you can be sure that this is purely propaganda, it is about casting aspersions on the legitimacy of the election.




mnottertail -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/16/2016 10:41:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Obama announces attacks on Russia

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-says-us-retaliate-against-russian-hacking-022451853.html?ref=gs


Hacking Hillary was no problem as long as all they were stealing was state secrets, but if they hacked the DNC, something has to be done about this.


Right, now it's time to start WW III. The kicker is that there is NO EVIDENCE that it was Russia. Not even as much evidence that say, Saddam had WMDs. This is on par with the claims that the Benghazi attack was because of a YouTube video.

Thats why you can be sure that this is purely propaganda, it is about casting aspersions on the legitimacy of the election.

of course nobody has hacked Hillary, prima facie. Now the fact that Trump and Ryan and McConnell have all said BubbaD is a welfare patient and a RIFboy, notwithstanding, Hillary never said that Benghazi was because of a Youtube video, the fact that the administration, including ALL its intelligence agencies have said there is ample proof that Russia interfered in our elections, A PRIORI, when it was thought that Trump would not be going to war with the world and Hillary was going to win does not make the pretend felchgobble and factless propaganda of the nutsuckers any more fact, reason, or intellect than pure scared continuous pantshitting, as is their wont.




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