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Musicmystery -> GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 10:55:00 AM)

Senate and House Leaders Call for Inquiry of Russian Hacking in Election

WASHINGTON — Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, said on Monday that he supported congressional investigations of possible Russian cyberattacks to influence the American election, setting up a potential conflict with President-elect Donald J. Trump in the early days of his administration.

Mr. McConnell’s support for investigations is a major moment for the Republican-controlled Congress given that Mr. Trump has ridiculed and dismissed the findings of the American intelligence community that the Russians hacked the election.

The investigation, which will be driven by Senator Richard M. Burr, of North Carolina, the chairman of the intelligence committee, and by Senator John McCain, of Arizona, the chairman of the armed services committee, could last for months or more at the start of the new Trump administration. Many of the intelligence committee hearings will most likely be behind closed doors, but they will still generate wide interest.

Mr. McConnell stopped short of calling for a special select committee to investigate the claims of Russian hacking, saying that the inquiries could be conducted through normal committee channels. He also stopped short of saying whether he agreed that Russia interfered in the election in support of Donald J. Trump. He repeatedly declined to address the president-elect’s attack on the Central Intelligence Agency.

Noting that “the Russians are not our friends,” Mr. McConnell said that he “strongly condemns” foreign hacking and that the Senate intelligence committee was “more than capable of conducting a complete review” of the matter. “We need to approach all these on the assumption the Russians do not wish us well,” he said.

Speaker Paul D. Ryan, in a statement, was even more forceful and said he supported an investigation in the House as well. “As I’ve said before, any foreign intervention in our elections is entirely unacceptable. And any intervention by Russia is especially problematic because, under President Putin, Russia has been an aggressor that consistently undermines American interests,” the statement said.

Mr. McCain said on Monday that there was “no doubt about the hacking” by Russian intelligence services and called for a wide-ranging investigation by congressional committees into Russian meddling.

Mr. McCain called hacking of the Democratic National Committee and related accounts “another form of warfare” in an appearance on Monday on “CBS This Morning” with Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the incoming Democratic leader.

Mr. McConnell, resolute in his silence on Mr. Trump for most of the campaign, now faces bipartisan pressure to take a stand on Russia’s interference in the American election.

Republican Senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Marco Rubio of Florida have both expressed concern about the reports of cyberattacks, as have numerous Democrats.

“Being a ‘friend of Vladimir’ is not an attribute I am hoping for from a #SecretaryOfState” Mr. Rubio wrote in a post on Twitter, an apparent reference to Rex W. Tillerson, the chief executive of Exxon Mobil, who is considered the front-runner to be Mr. Trump’s nominee for secretary of state.


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DaddySatyr -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 11:43:40 AM)


I can't help but to ponder whether Leon Panetta and the DNC us the same cyber security as the Pentagon or the House or Senate, the C.I.A., the D.I.A.?

The way I understand the "Wikileaks revelations" is Wikileaks published hacked e-mails from Panetta's personal account and the DNC server.

During the height of the she-cunt e-mail scandal, the FBI said that they were about 90% sure that the anti-Christ's server had been hacked by "antagonistic entities".

Back then, it was no problem. It never happened. Nothing to see, here. Please move along to the she-cunt's coronation.

I'd be willing to bet a dollar to a doughnut if we were to offer Assange asylum here, we would get his cooperation in telling us the sources of his leaks. I think it's interesting to realize that politics is a dirty business and there being no love lost between HillBilly and their erstwhile "coffee server" (dumbo ears), I believe it's entirely possible that some of the leaks came from the present administration.

The she-cunt seemed to be running on the platform of "it's my turn" which is probably what she was guaranteed when she stepped aside for the "God Damn America" parishioner in '08.



Michael




Musicmystery -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 11:47:02 AM)

Agreed about Hilary, and I think it cost her. I also think we should be concerned about what happened in the primaries, and I don't understand why more people aren't.

But the interference of a foreign power is a far greater concern (not that we can't pursue both).




DaddySatyr -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:05:40 PM)


I would need to see some evidence that these leaks came from a foreign government before I get all up in arms about foreign governments interfering in our elections.

Before election day (when everyone was sure the she-cunt was going to win), there were news reports about voting machines weren't connected to the internet so, there was no threat there, etc. To me, that would be interference.

If all the hacking/leaking did was to lay bare for all the world to see what an entitled piece of shit the anti-Christ is (and, by extension, some of her staff), I'm strangely comfortable with that.

Lots of people say: "Well, we didn't see any leaks from the RNC or Trump's e-mails". I say: Did we really need to? One of the biggest complaints about Trump was that he lacked one of those "internal filters" between his brain and his mouth. Agreed.

The she-cunt not only doesn't lack one of those, but she is extremely practiced in the art of deception.

Let the "intelligence community" that is so vocal now show me some evidence that these hacks/leaks were from a foreign government and I'll go to the recruiting station and re-enlist, today.



Michael




mnottertail -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:08:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


I can't help but to ponder whether Leon Panetta and the DNC us the same cyber security as the Pentagon or the House or Senate, the C.I.A., the D.I.A.?

The way I understand the "Wikileaks revelations" is Wikileaks published hacked e-mails from Panetta's personal account and the DNC server.

During the height of the she-cunt e-mail scandal, the FBI said that they were about 90% sure that the anti-Christ's server had been hacked by "antagonistic entities".

Back then, it was no problem. It never happened. Nothing to see, here. Please move along to the she-cunt's coronation.

I'd be willing to bet a dollar to a doughnut if we were to offer Assange asylum here, we would get his cooperation in telling us the sources of his leaks. I think it's interesting to realize that politics is a dirty business and there being no love lost between HillBilly and their erstwhile "coffee server" (dumbo ears), I believe it's entirely possible that some of the leaks came from the present administration.

The she-cunt seemed to be running on the platform of "it's my turn" which is probably what she was guaranteed when she stepped aside for the "God Damn America" parishioner in '08.



Michael


Never heard the nutsucker Comey say anything on the subject. I am quite sure that the leaks came from the diarrhea filled pants of the nutsuckers, the he-cunts down there in the house were working that ass for Trump all the way.

Now we have stepped aside for the he-cunt Trump who has a policy of God Damn America.





Musicmystery -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:12:14 PM)

Again, agreed about before the election concerns.

Alas, you and I don't know what's in the CIA briefings now, but that the concern is bipartisan from such very partisan leaders as McConnell and Ryan is at the very least attention-getting and reason for considering the veracity.

Of course, hearings will drag on for months and months, so the Trumptooners can still have their party, unless the Electoral College gets spooked, and since its filled with partisan appointees, I don't know how likely that is (they'd need at least 37 unfaithful electors to pick someone other than Trump to throw it to the House).

But the facts in evidence don't seem in dispute, and this is certainly a matter for serious concern, at the very least.




DaddySatyr -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:19:22 PM)


I believe the proposed hearings to be nothing more than political C.Y.O.A./Let's-get-out-in-front-of-this type bullshit.

If the GOP leaders seem to be concerned in a bi-partisan manner and hold "in-depth" hearings that turn up nothing, then, it's the same effect as the Dumbocrats just saying it (as far as the MSM is concerned).



Michael




Musicmystery -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:24:50 PM)

Your beliefs.

That's the difficulty.

The CIA -- or you and Trump.

Hmmm.

While you could be right, it's not something to go on -- investigation makes sense, even if it's standard theater.

In fact, I hope it's nothing.

But doesn't seem likely.

We'll see.




BoscoX -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:29:56 PM)

Where is the official spook giving a press conference. Why is this all rumors of rumors reported in fake news outlets such as the Bezos WP.

We are all supposed to join the alt left in their circus of panic and fearmongering but there is no proof of anything. We had a lot more evidence of WMDs in Iraq than we have of the Russians supposedly abandoning their normal traditional allies in the DNC in favor of President Trump.

Are the Russians supposed to be jilted lovers, or what? Did they and the Democrats have a spat? What is their supposed motivation.

Don't ask any serious questions though, that means you are definitely a red. Just keep panicking!

Morons.






Musicmystery -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:33:26 PM)

You really don't get how the whole intel thing works, do you.

You also seem pretty confused about which leaders are in which party.

Maybe take some time and catch up.




mnottertail -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:34:50 PM)

Nutuskers are known communists, and we had absolutely no evidence of WMD. Just as we had no evidence that Hillary did anything wrong, and even knowing that, they did some 15 or more investigations. I think its worth a look see.




BamaD -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:36:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


I can't help but to ponder whether Leon Panetta and the DNC us the same cyber security as the Pentagon or the House or Senate, the C.I.A., the D.I.A.?

The way I understand the "Wikileaks revelations" is Wikileaks published hacked e-mails from Panetta's personal account and the DNC server.

During the height of the she-cunt e-mail scandal, the FBI said that they were about 90% sure that the anti-Christ's server had been hacked by "antagonistic entities".

Back then, it was no problem. It never happened. Nothing to see, here. Please move along to the she-cunt's coronation.

I'd be willing to bet a dollar to a doughnut if we were to offer Assange asylum here, we would get his cooperation in telling us the sources of his leaks. I think it's interesting to realize that politics is a dirty business and there being no love lost between HillBilly and their erstwhile "coffee server" (dumbo ears), I believe it's entirely possible that some of the leaks came from the present administration.

The she-cunt seemed to be running on the platform of "it's my turn" which is probably what she was guaranteed when she stepped aside for the "God Damn America" parishioner in '08.



Michael


The very things that couldn't happen are suddenly the most important thing in the world, day before the electors vote with no time to refute it.
As far as carefully vetting potential members of the cabinet , that is what the Senate is supposed to do, it is just a big deal because Obama's cabinet was rubber stamped.




mnottertail -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:40:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


I can't help but to ponder whether Leon Panetta and the DNC us the same cyber security as the Pentagon or the House or Senate, the C.I.A., the D.I.A.?

The way I understand the "Wikileaks revelations" is Wikileaks published hacked e-mails from Panetta's personal account and the DNC server.

During the height of the she-cunt e-mail scandal, the FBI said that they were about 90% sure that the anti-Christ's server had been hacked by "antagonistic entities".

Back then, it was no problem. It never happened. Nothing to see, here. Please move along to the she-cunt's coronation.

I'd be willing to bet a dollar to a doughnut if we were to offer Assange asylum here, we would get his cooperation in telling us the sources of his leaks. I think it's interesting to realize that politics is a dirty business and there being no love lost between HillBilly and their erstwhile "coffee server" (dumbo ears), I believe it's entirely possible that some of the leaks came from the present administration.

The she-cunt seemed to be running on the platform of "it's my turn" which is probably what she was guaranteed when she stepped aside for the "God Damn America" parishioner in '08.



Michael


The very things that couldn't happen are suddenly the most important thing in the world, day before the electors vote with no time to refute it.
As far as carefully vetting potential members of the cabinet , that is what the Senate is supposed to do, it is just a big deal because Obama's cabinet was rubber stamped.

LOL, Goldman Sachs swamp has been rubber stamped by the nutsuckers in trumps cabinet.




Musicmystery -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 12:57:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
The very things that couldn't happen are suddenly the most important thing in the world.

Indeed. Serious times indeed.

Certainly, given their help to Trump before the election, the CIA isn't intentionally working against him now -- except to report the interference of a foreign power, a very serious matter.




BoscoX -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 1:03:31 PM)

It seems like just the other day, Hillary's State Department traded our uranium mines to the Russians in exchange for bribe money. Whatever happened to their coziest of cozy relationship?





mnottertail -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 1:05:22 PM)

Seems like it to nutsuckers, but of course it is propaganda from the nutsucker slobber blogs, no truth to it whatsoever.





WickedsDesire -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 1:33:47 PM)

Anyone who voted for Comrade Trump is a pawn of Putin. Would anyone like, or care to disagree?

Clueless fukerBoscoX are you leeching of my previous words with errant waffle of fibbery. Because Russia sells America uranium and as my previous post said they escape sanctions in areas numbering 3.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 1:43:03 PM)

Personally I cannot see how a reasonable person wouldn't want it investigated. Consider the following.
1. Someone hacked the emails. Hacking is a crime. Seems that ought to be investigated.
2. Somebody used the hacked emails to try influence the election against Clinton (if not specifically pro Trump). That really ought to be investigated.
3. An unspecified number of US intelligence agencies has on more than one occasion said they believe that Russia (a less than friendly nation) was involved in the hacks. Now that really, really ought to be investigated.




BoscoX -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 2:39:50 PM)

At this point, what difference does it make?




mnottertail -> RE: GOP leaders defy Trump, concerned over Russian election influence (12/12/2016 2:44:54 PM)

Exactly. Now that the commies own the election and the President elect and have turned their nutsucker fechgobblers into worshipful communist myrmidons: At this point, what difference does it make?




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