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China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 11:10:16 AM   
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http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/breaking-reports-china-has-siezed-us-navy-vessel-south-china-sea

and so it begins...

tweeted by reuters as well
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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 11:57:36 AM   
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Can't wait to see how the Trump-suckers spin this one as not happening.

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 12:12:30 PM   
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They seem to be denying it by ignoring it and pretending it's not happening.


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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 12:30:23 PM   
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I'm waiting for the tweets. That seems to be what is going to replace White House press briefings.

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 12:35:41 PM   
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They can't admit that it's even happened until Il Duce* has tweeted about it to tell them what to think.

*(Italian for "What a sweetie")

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 1:06:11 PM   
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They can't admit that it's even happened until Il Duce* has tweeted about it to tell them what to think.

*(Italian for "What a sweetie")

LOL @ "What a sweetie"


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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 1:40:24 PM   
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I'm waiting for the tweets. That seems to be what is going to replace White House press briefings.


Obamas annual propaganda talk? I will miss that. In fact, I will miss everything Obama. Since took office the Democrat party has been decimated, and is now only a coastal party totally insignificant on the national level.

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 1:56:47 PM   
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They might be figuring they paid for it anyway. LOL Also, I would like to see any country put anything that even remotely could be a weapon in the Gulf of Mexico. "Oh, we were just measuring salinity and temperature. That sounds pretty lame.

But if this starts it then it does. It was about time anyway. Get rid of a shitload pf people and make the world again fit for human habitation. They better lower the standards for getting into the military and put more 18 year olds out of work pretty soon or they'll have to bring back the draft. Hell, just for Iraq they had to use a stop loss plan.

Actually maybe not so much. This is liable to just be a protracted war, many provocative actions but let's just say we can't really invade them because they simply have too many people. They can't invade us for pretty much the same reason, plus the fact they'll never be able to disarm us.

Better hope Trump makes buddies with Putin now because there is no way in hell we could handle both of them at the same time.

The Chinese are getting some balls. After what the US has done all over the world, why not ? I have said for a long time the US military actions will bite us in the ass one day and it looks like most of my predictions - it will come true.

So, what are we going to do, stop borrowing money from them ? Tax their TVs ?

I could see them examining the drone now, OK, in the US apparently targeting RADAR, missiles and all these mines are their way to measure salinity. No wonder they can't build their own TVs !

LOL

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 2:01:54 PM   
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I'm waiting for the tweets. That seems to be what is going to replace White House press briefings.


Obamas annual propaganda talk? I will miss that. In fact, I will miss everything Obama. Since took office the Democrat party has been decimated, and is now only a coastal party totally insignificant on the national level.


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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 2:07:02 PM   
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It's (the hilariously misnamed) Sanity, innit? Has to be.

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 2:10:55 PM   
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It's (the hilariously misnamed) Sanity, innit? Has to be.

The theory is not without merit.

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 2:12:05 PM   
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Haven't you heard? The entire Obama presidency never existed -- it was filmed on a sound stage, same one they used for the moon landing. That's why you never see Alex Baldwin and Obama in the same place at the same time.

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 2:15:20 PM   
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They can't admit that it's even happened until Il Duce* has tweeted about it to tell them what to think.

*(Italian for "What a sweetie")


There is actually policy discussion on how to perceive tweets, thanks to Trump.

My favorite line from the article - I for one am done making assumptions in this area for at least the next four years

'Is a Tweet policy?' State Department officials ponder
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tweet-policy-state-department-officials-ponder-002842239.html
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - When is a tweet just a tweet?

A debate is percolating in the U.S. State Department, where diplomats measure their words with demitasse spoons, on how to handle Donald Trump's Twitter commentary if he continues to tweet after he becomes U.S. president on Jan. 20.

By tradition, anything the president says is regarded as U.S. policy and can be repeated to foreign officials without fear of contradiction, at least from the White House.

But Trump has questioned bedrock planks of U.S. policy, such as whether Taiwan is part of "one China" or whether Washington would defend NATO allies, causing consternation at home and abroad.

"I have never hesitated to take anything that POTUS said in speeches, press conferences, and other remarks as anything but policy," a midlevel diplomat who has served on four continents wrote Dec. 7 on an internal State Department discussion board, in reference to the President of the United States (POTUS).

"But what about tweets?" he asked.

"Given the president-elect's penchant for using (Twitter) in a much more spontaneous context than most other USG officials, how should FSOs regard those statements?" he added, referring to U.S. government (USG) foreign service officers (FSOs).

"In theory, we all should have a firm grasp of what is hyberbole (sic) and what is not, but in practice we should not be so sure. I for one am done making assumptions in this area for at least the next four years," the diplomat added.

He then appealed to the State Department's Bureau of Public Affairs to issue an ALDAC, or formal message to "All Diplomatic and Consular Posts," clarifying matters.

The post, titled "Is a Tweet policy?" on "The Sounding Board," a forum on the State Department's intranet, prompted thoughtful, though equally perplexed, comments.

Another official wrote that he was confident President Barack Obama's comments are to be taken "seriously and literally", Trump may want his tweets to be taken both "seriously and figuratively," he wrote.

"Assuming there is a strategy here, it would seem that it would be to create a sense of ambiguity around issues previously thought to be settled for the purpose of leveraging a better deal to advance USG interests," he added. "Miscommunication may be the very purpose of the President Elect's tweets."

A spokesman for the State Department said it would have no comment on how the next administration and president may use social media.

Obama has tweeted since 2015 from the account @POTUS.

Rather than suggesting specific policies, Obama used the handle to encourage Americans to vote, to cheerlead for Hillary Clinton, Trump's election opponent, and to remember the recently deceased, including writer Elie Wiesel and golfer Arnold Palmer.

From his Twitter account, @realdonaldtrump, Trump has mocked Clinton as "Crooked Hillary," attacked a former Miss Universe and sniped at the parents of a Muslim American U.S. Army captain who died in Iraq after the soldier's father spoke against him.

On Nov. 27, he tweeted "I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally" but provided no evidence for the claim, which electoral officials have denied. Trump lost the popular vote by close to three million votes.

The president-elect has not said definitively whether he will continue tweeting after Jan. 20. Trump's transition team did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

A third official said the entire government would need to deal with the issue to "limit the amount of miscommunication a specific POTUS tweet could engender."

"As the great Bette Davis line goes, 'Fasten your seatbelt, it's going to be a bumpy ride,'" he wrote.

(Reporting by Arshad Mohammed, additional reporting by Timothy Gardner, Steve Holland and Matt Spetalnick; Editing by Andrew Hay)

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/16/2016 2:48:51 PM   
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Dearie me.
And the trumptooners are seriously arguing that this orange fucktard isn't a walking security breach with their bare faces hanging out as though they were human beings?

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/17/2016 10:22:40 AM   
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Well we know that he has a spelling problem.

China steals United States Navy research drone in international waters - rips it out of water and takes it to China in unpresidented [sic] act.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 17, 2016

He's going to be the east coast elitist ignoramus to take up the cause of the Texan redneck ignoramus...another very useful idiot.

BTW, is there such a thing as a 'manned' drone ? Seems if such a craft is manned...it isn't a drone.

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/17/2016 10:36:43 AM   
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Well we know that he has a spelling problem.

China steals United States Navy research drone in international waters - rips it out of water and takes it to China in unpresidented [sic] act.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 17, 2016

He's going to be the east coast elitist ignoramus to take up the cause of the Texan redneck ignoramus...another very useful idiot.

Hey MrR, kiss my Texan redneck ignoramus ass.
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BTW, is there such a thing as a 'manned' drone ? Seems if such a craft is manned...it isn't a drone.

Yeah well I made a point of saying 'unmanned' drone in the post title because the article headline said navy vessel, which was incorrect (there was a navy vessel there, plus two drones) and made it sound much worse than it was, and I didn't want anyone coming back and saying that I was trying to create false hysteria or exaggerating, so I dumbed it down for those ignoramuses who might try and do that

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/17/2016 10:51:04 AM   
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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/20/2016 9:41:06 AM   
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They gave it back now.

But made their point.

Not that Trump is likely to listen.

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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/20/2016 9:42:39 AM   
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Maybe if he attended those "unimportant because Im smart" security briefings, he could have saved himself the unpresidented refudiation of china...but it is funnier this way..


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RE: China seizes unmanned U.S. navy drone - 12/20/2016 9:52:43 AM   
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Maybe if he attended those "unimportant because Im smart" security briefings, he could have saved himself the unpresidented refudiation of china...but it is funnier this way..



What President Elect Trump said about the intelligence briefings makes perfect sense when quoted in context, but your source (typical alt left trash fake news) took him out of context to change what he said about them.

He said he was smart enough that he did not need to hear the same things repeated again and again every day, but that if something new comes up he is never too busy to listen and he wants to be informed. He also has a fantastic staff that is kept up to date on even the minor things that arise, and they always have access to President Elect Trump's ear.

Obama is also reported to skip the broken record briefings

But please, keep preaching ignorance, people like you make people like me look good.

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