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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 4:39:42 AM   
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SuBrett sure there isnt a bit of witch in you?
osidegirl has a point

All that aside do you think we should tar and feather almost all of them? Once you start you cannot stop, and before you realise it your hurling them all into volcanoes, then things take a turn for the worse

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 4:46:08 AM   
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In what church?


Well in my case, Conservative Baptist.

Is there any Baptist that is not conservative?

Dead ones have trouble enforcing their ideology, I suppose.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 10:23:16 AM   
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i am I guess...? Im confused what the point you're trying to make is.

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Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 10:25:45 AM   
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Im not sure that any of the comments made so far are relevant.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 11:01:23 AM   
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Im not sure that any of the comments made so far are relevant.

Insipid premise, insipid answers. Seems relevant to me.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 1:52:06 PM   
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Define your divisions, perhaps it will lead you to find your commonalities.

Talk of Islam treating Women like chattel, well look in the old testament and you will find their Hebrew breatheren doing it as well. Look at White slave traders outside of the Semitic world, Chinese, Japanese, they all do it.

I know one Woman who would say "You wanna try it motherfucker just go ahead". I used to have such a crush on that girl.

So it is Men and Women. And then a whole bunch, Whites (meaning real White like European), Blacks, Orientals, other Asians. In my paternal family, Germans against Polish. How many people want to be only among "their kind" ? Almost all. It is a natural human trait. Don't punish people for it, try to make friends with them. Why do people try to denigrate, antagonize and aggravate those different than them ?

Well I will tell you why RIGHT NOW. We do not want to live with them.

The difference is that integration was forced upon the US by forces which had no idea of the consequences. But in Europe and the other "enlightened" countries it happened naturally. The US was not ready for it. That is the cause of most of the racial tension. Forced busing, forced renting with Blacks i n White neighborhoods. Sure we were bigots, but without forcing this integration down our throats it would have went alot better. Less deaths to say the least.

You want a piece of racism ? I got a few.

But ask.

I can show you what real bigotry is in words. Here is a sample :

Dad told me a joke. Emmet Hill, a Black guy from up north went south and in one of those states and whistled at a White girl. They lynched him and wrapped his body in chain and threw him in the river. For whatever reason they got the body back and at the inquest the coroner said "Open and shut case your honor, n____ stole more chain than he could swim with".

Yeah, that was a joke until I found out is was true. That is totally uncalled for. And to actually KILL him for it ?

It is not a joke now. It is plain old WRONG.

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Try knowing that happened to two of YOUR families members. (not whistling, one just looking too long.) ......And I do. And to be blunt, not JUST kill them, they both were beaten by multiple white men, then when hung had their penises & balls cut off and stuffed in the dead mens mouths. And that grisly sight is how My family found them after searching for hours.

its more than wrong, its mans inhumanity to man. And it happened 1000's of times since the civil war.

Now fast forward a few years. http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/21/justice/texas-dragging-death-execution/ So say its in the far past isn't reality.

(to the OP,) BUT there are people who post on this site TODAY who want you and everyone else to ignore that history just so they can justify their current (or want to engage in without being called on it.) behavior (beyond the fantasy of BDSM.).

They want to engage in that behavior because it benefits them and them only.

So to do so, (thread-wise) they call us "leftists", then call us lefties everything they are, or want to be not called on the carpet for. Because the real ....Is them trying to CONvince u that their behavior is somehow ok when if ur not them,.... it clearly is not.

then (the others) get pissy when u remind them its not. Generally u can tell they are con-jobs when they are the first to call u something like "moron" or "idiot" or some other insult, when u remind them its not.



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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 4:23:19 PM   
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Yes that's true. It is important to note that there is also oppression from local tribes and customs like you said. But still the point I'm trying to make is that all holy books have a lot of violent stuff in them. the bible is no exception especially the Old Testament. Just because one praticular group chooses to follow or a forced to live under some ultra conservative out dated sect of Islam that's oppressive to women doesn't mean they all are. Condemn the ones that are but praise all the non violent non prejudiced ones. To say all Muslims are oppressivve because some are is like saying that all Christians hate soldiers just because one very extreme group like the Westboro Baptists do.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 6:47:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SuBrett

Im not sure that any of the comments made so far are relevant.

Insipid premise, insipid answers. Seems relevant to me.

Thinking the same thing.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 6:50:33 PM   
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To say all Muslims are oppressivve because some are is like saying that all Christians hate soldiers just because one very extreme group like the Westboro Baptists do.

It isn't just ONE extreme group in Islam. It is WHOLE countries.
The most populous Muslim country, Indonesia, contains 12% of the world's Muslim population, has openly declared that it is AGAINST Islam for Muslims to vote for Non-Muslims and is prosecuting their Christian Governor for claiming Muslims are allowed to vote for Non-Muslims.

So US whole population: 300 million+, Indonesia Muslim Population: 200 Million+

That's already 2/3 worth of US population living in extremism alone in just one country. If I start counting all the other extremist Islam countries, they will outnumber US population.

And I believe the ENTIRE middle east agrees with this too.

How many Westboro Baptists are there?

Since majority of the 1.6 Billion Muslims live in ISLAMIC countries with Sharia Laws, I'd say, that's a freaking LARGE number of them that are following extreme Islam. Sharia Law does not judge with gender equality in mind. Homosexuals get punished. Women get punished for being raped. Only men gets multiple spouses. Not women. And divorce laws are very unfair to women. Prepubescent marriage is allowed and prepubescent divorce is clearly layed out too.

Please don't compare them to Westboro who is just a drop in the ocean of Christians.

And another thing.

Most Christians denounce Westboros. And what does Westboro do that follows Christianity anyway? Jesus told Christians to only cast the first stone IF they were not sinners. Since everyone is a sinner, Westboro is disobeying Christianity.

But when a Muslim man beat his wife, he is OBEYING Islam.

Majority of Muslims embrace Sharia law and WANTS to live under Sharia and would be happy to see Sharia law instilled in Western nations. So many surveys in the west have been done about this. Majority of Muslims would be happy with Sharia laws. It would be disloyal to their own religion if they don't want Sharia law. You can't be Muslim and say you don't want to be under Sharia law. Sharia Law is an essential part and essence of Islam.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 9:08:19 PM   
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The world scholar speaks.


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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 9:12:15 PM   
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The world scholar speaks.




Perhaps Sharia law is a good thing. It certainly eliminates most of the serious social problems we have.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 10:26:00 PM   
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and why dont you look at the social problems,
why not look at the high numbers of suicide, and the reasons behind them.
oh yeah they dont matter.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 10:45:02 PM   
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I am looking at the social problems. Many are caused by the breakdown of the family. Perhaps we need to go back to something drastically traditional.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 10:50:30 PM   
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we had traditional families, and men were still walking out on their families, women were still abandoning their children, drugs have always been a problem, poverty is bigger a much bigger problem than a "traditional family", millions upon millions have been abused in traditional families, forever.
so
no, you are looking at a problem that didnt work back then , and now you want to go back to it???
thanks I remember what its like with "traditional families" they are in no way a solution.
You wanna force people into relationships forever? get rid of divorce?





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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/21/2016 10:55:16 PM   
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we had traditional families, and men were still walking out on their families, women were still abandoning their children, drugs have always been a problem, poverty is bigger a much bigger problem than a "traditional family", millions upon millions have been abused in traditional families, forever.
so
no, you are looking at a problem that didnt work back then , and now you want to go back to it???
thanks I remember what its like with "traditional families" they are in no way a solution.
You wanna force people into relationships forever? get rid of divorce?






No... the best thing i did for myself was get a divorce. I don't know what we should do anymore.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/22/2016 1:01:40 AM   
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Perhaps Sharia law is a good thing. It certainly eliminates most of the serious social problems we have.


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No... the best thing i did for myself was get a divorce. I don't know what we should do anymore.



You wouldn't be able to do that under Sharia law.
Unless your hubby allowed you to, you'd be stuck in the marriage.
If you walked out, you risk being publicly stoned to death or killed as part of an honour killing by your own family.

So what do you think of Sharia law now??
Do you really think it's a good idea??

As for eliminating serious social problems - far from it.
The reason we don't see so much is because the woman is not much more than chattel.
She is totally ruled and governed by the man of the house.
Don't like his new wife??
You dare not speak out about it or you risk death by beating.
Don't like being shared with his friends? Same again.
You looked at him in the wrong tone of voice?
He has the blessing of the Q'oran and the community to beat the living bejeezus out of you and force you to sleep outside whatever the weather is doing.
Want to complain about your treatment?
Forget it. He has the power of a despot ruler over you backed by the community.
Your life is quite literally in his hands.

I don't always agree with Greta but for Islam, she is right.
I've seen it myself in various areas I've lived in the UK where all this shit shouldn't happen.
What Greta speaks of happens behind closed doors and is hidden by the community.
And even worse, it is deliberately covered up within the community because they know it is illegal in the western world.
That's why most of the western world doesn't see it or is even aware of it; but it happens.


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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/22/2016 2:35:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Perhaps Sharia law is a good thing. It certainly eliminates most of the serious social problems we have.


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

No... the best thing i did for myself was get a divorce. I don't know what we should do anymore.



You wouldn't be able to do that under Sharia law.
Unless your hubby allowed you to, you'd be stuck in the marriage.
If you walked out, you risk being publicly stoned to death or killed as part of an honour killing by your own family.

So what do you think of Sharia law now??
Do you really think it's a good idea??

As for eliminating serious social problems - far from it.
The reason we don't see so much is because the woman is not much more than chattel.
She is totally ruled and governed by the man of the house.
Don't like his new wife??
You dare not speak out about it or you risk death by beating.
Don't like being shared with his friends? Same again.
You looked at him in the wrong tone of voice?
He has the blessing of the Q'oran and the community to beat the living bejeezus out of you and force you to sleep outside whatever the weather is doing.
Want to complain about your treatment?
Forget it. He has the power of a despot ruler over you backed by the community.
Your life is quite literally in his hands.

I don't always agree with Greta but for Islam, she is right.
I've seen it myself in various areas I've lived in the UK where all this shit shouldn't happen.
What Greta speaks of happens behind closed doors and is hidden by the community.
And even worse, it is deliberately covered up within the community because they know it is illegal in the western world.
That's why most of the western world doesn't see it or is even aware of it; but it happens.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPhsVJ2eyXA

Snopes tried to debunk this but I don't see it. Even trying to debunk actual footage like that has cost the alot of credibility, and they have been caught wrong before.

This big MF, smacking the sheepshit out of a Woman half his size, what a Man huh. But it is a fact that this is how Women get treated under Islamic law. They have no recourse.

I have said this before but I am not sure here - those Women have a way to fight back.

Kill the children. Drink "bitter waters", punch each other in the stomach when pregnant, fall down the stairs or whatever it takes, make it so that there are so few males there that they are outnumbered. Either that or die, and keep dying to the point where those animals have nobody to rape. Do you realize that if you are in a Muslim country and get raped your choices are to marry the rapist or go to jail ? And once married, you are property.

Don't get me wrong, they are not the only religion like that, even Judaism, they sold their daughters. The Orientals, not much different, remember footbinding that they finally outlawed ? Christianity didn't up and say it up front, but did nothing to stop it either as far as I know. If you do, correct me. Selling your daughters was just alright with Jesus.

None of these religions are worth shit, and as a race, and I mean the HUMAN race, we should give it up. There is no Man in the sky. There is also no Santa Claus.

Kids, years ago and I mean kids with real intelligence when exposed to Christianity screamed in fear. They said "What, you mean someone can read all my thoughts and punish me for thinking wrong ?". Think about that. I forget where that was but it was somewhere where they were taught right but did not understand that all religion is nothing but a fairy tale.

Call me a republican now.

Why all the negative politics ? You ain't seen nothing yet. Trump could cure cancer and the liberals would still want to stone him to death.

But note, of all youse folk who thought the electors would "do their job" and keep Trump out of office, the "faithless" electors did not vote for Clinton. Some for Sanders, some for Kasich, and really I am surprised to see Trump got over 300 electoral votes. And the bad part is that does not tell how much the people like Trump, it tells how much they don't like Clinton. I am tired of seeing people vote against someone instead of for someone. Seeing the past few decades I don't even bother to register.

Back to what I think maybe what the OP meant in this thread, the answer is that there is so much negativity in politics because of the candidates. Hillary Clinton is an autistic pimp. Donald Trump is a law manipulator who uses the court system to make money. They are both pieces of shit and people just happened to hate Clinton more. And neither one of them worked a day in their life.

And this is our choice, and you expect positivity ?

Well I can say this much, you can't expect that from anyone with a working brain.

The kid (borne of goodfellas) has from birth, dual citizenship here and Italy. He is starting to get like "Every time I hear the news, get on a website, whatever, Italy looks better and better". He is 23 and could probably learn the language, though he says alot of people there speak English anyway. But he wouldn't want to disrespect them like the Hispanics here, press one for English on the phone n shit.

The negativity is because things are bad and getting worse. Once a month on Saturday me and my buddy used to go to the stores looking for more audio equipment, see what's new. Sometime buy a new cassette deck because it has Dolby HX. (that was a BIG BIG improvement actually, I bought one and I know) And we were using CASH. None of us had credit cards. How was that possible ?

You figure it out.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/22/2016 2:45:13 AM   
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But note, of all youse folk who thought the electors would "do their job" and keep Trump out of office, the "faithless" electors did not vote for Clinton. Some for Sanders, some for Kasich, and really I am surprised to see Trump got over 300 electoral votes. And the bad part is that does not tell how much the people like Trump, it tells how much they don't like Clinton. I am tired of seeing people vote against someone instead of for someone. Seeing the past few decades I don't even bother to register.


The vote for Kasich was part of a plan to convince GOP electors not to vote for Trump.

It wasn't about how much they don't like Clinton, the electoral vote was about supporting their party and not causing the shitstorm that would have resulted if they hadn't voted for Trump.

The election itself wasn't about Hillary hate-- the Hillary haters would have voted against Jesus Christ if he was the Democratic candidate, even if he was running against the Prince of Darkness with Darth Vader as his VP, that's how mindlessly partisan they are.

The election came down to the rust belt swing states that foolishly, desperately believed what Trump was telling them he could do to save their futures. So as much as I am shocked to say it, it came down to Trump's message of change resonating more than Hillary's message of sticking to the plan. She didn't make herself shiny and new, she didn't give them hope that things were going to get better... that's why she lost.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/22/2016 2:58:35 AM   
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To answer the OP:

It's called 'monkey see, monkey do'.

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RE: Why all the negative politics? - 12/22/2016 5:54:33 AM   
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"Throw the bums out."

Never works. But that's the level of thought that goes into electing new bums.

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