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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/24/2016 8:45:41 AM   
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This country needs an infusion of common sense. You show promise musicmystrey But think grander, wall if off and fill it with some nice magma/lava

I find many things curious. I always found the argument of Hillary is corrupt a non argument and yet with the help of Emperor Putin that was enough to finish Bitch Witch Binton off and sway those pinko GOP to vote for comrade trump in fair numbers...I know Hilary won by 3 million votes. But non voters decide most elections only 200 from 240 million voters were eligible to vote too But that aise apathy also won the day with the non handsome madman....like over hear i dont doubt for second the bulk of the non voters are what the term middle ground-left. I always thought voting should be mandatory and by postal vote as that is least open to corruption

Corruption what is it and who is corrupt. I dont doubt for one moment most politicians everywhere are corrupt (America near the top of that table)

What I know of trumps CV i found horrific and that is the tip of the iceberg. I dont understand anyone voting for him bar zealots.

As for him is he more corrupt than Hillary of course and that is his known CV

Will he be impeached....I am now uncertain.


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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/26/2016 4:11:11 PM   
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In case y'all did not know, members of congress are allowed to dabble in the stock market. They are allowed to invest or divest based on personal knowledge aforehand that they are going to pass legislation, or give contracts that directly affect the value of their own investments.

This is all perfectly legal. They made it perfectly legal. Also, if they are on their way to a session in congress, they cannot be arrested FOR ANYTHING WHATSOEVER.

And the SEC busted Martha Stewart for what ?

And WTF is Trump going to do, not allow Muslims to play golf at his courses or stay at his hotels ? They talk about him building a hotel in Saudi Arabia, so what ? Is he going to put bombs in it in case they do something wrong ? (which they already do but nobody seems to care)

I don't care. Everyone in the beltway has an agenda, and usually that agenda is to get as rich as possible. Lie, cheat, insider trading, take bribes. All OK.

So the President doesn't get bribes while in office. Sure. Do you think a bunch of successful business people want to hear the musings of an ex-President to the tune of a hundred grand or whatever ? Fuck no, that is the payoff for something they did in office for them.

The difference between the President and congress is that congress can get their bribe money right away. And being the lawmakers they are never going to make a law against it, because after all you just can't live on $176,000 a year. (they are about due for a raise, if you got three toga partiers in Harvard or Yale that money does not go very far)

Remember the monkeys and the electrified banana. You have to change them all at the same time.

T^T

Oh now you don't care but but but...Hillary was so corrupt, we just couldn't vote for that cunt/crook.

Now we can cut yours and the right's hypocrisy with a fucking knife. Seems then it is much worse to be accused of being corrupt then it is to know the president-elect who 60+ million voted for because of it...IS fucking corrupt. Trump foundation admits to IRS...it IS corrupt.

Remember the campaign just a few weeks/months ago ?

Hey Donny boy, how about a new 5 star in Beijing and we'll lend your govt. another Trillion $ that you'll surely need with your rent-seeking tax cuts. Just let us have the South China Sea.

Hey Donny boy...how about a 5 star right in Tehran just look the other way when WE go ahead build nukes...now ?

Hey Donny boy how about we pay off Deutsch bank for you, look the other way when we send a few divs. right into Kiev and take the fuck over ?

Hey Donny boy, send your wife and daughter both over to suck my cock and we'll give ole Rexy (new sec. of state) say 10% off on our oil for Exxon ?

As Newt says, fuck the laws, just pull out the ole repub playbook...pardon everybody. HERE

Might just as well pardon Noriega. All he was doing was selling cocaine while on CIA payroll...small potatoes hey Donny.




Well, this . . .

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/26/2016 4:12:12 PM   
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In every other country on the globe (maybe except yours) this is simply called corruption.

Any more to abandon, or "bend in favour"?

It's not corruption.
The founder of our country, pretty much have his wife, run public transport, his daughter in law manage our tax payers money in investments, keeping our country reserves in surpluses by the multi-billions, and have his sons run our major telecommunications providers. Not in government positions. Public transportation is privatised, and the company is owned by his wife. Telecommunications is obviously private companies and own by his sons. Fund managing of our reserve is also by an external fund managing company, where his daughter in law was CEO in.

Yet we have one of the lowest corruption in the world. How corrupted a country is, is not decided by us in international rankings.

Family can be in business catering to the government and it doesn't have to be corrupted. As long as they work towards the good of the country.

In this situation, i see no evidence of corruption. I do not believe Trump is forcing diplomats to use Trump organization services at all.

The problem now is IF they choose to, Trump gets in trouble.

That's ridiculous.

But it's just interesting how in our situation. None of us raise up a stink about his family running all the major things, because they are doing such a great job with it.

And if they fuck up, they get penalties accordingly. No special treatment.

But I *think* US doesn't have a system where they fine telecommunications and transportation companies for not performing up to a certain level of standards.

Well the GSA is paying a Trump co. for security for starters. The new sec. of state wants a good deal for Russian oil for Exxon. Think he'll get it ? The Trump Foundation to IRS...we ARE corrupt !!

Comparing your country with no power to change anything in the world, with ours who preaches transparency and 'not even an appearance of any conflicts' and is the world's superpower...is not even a nice try.

Oh not to put to fine a point on all of this, Trump International is on a ground lease with the GSA that specifically prohibits ownership from being ANY elected official. Oh but hey, what's a little corruption when we all wish we too could be greedy, capitalist scum and be elected POUS ?

... and this.

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/28/2016 12:53:08 AM   
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Trump names company lawyer as international negotiations representative

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-names-company-lawyer-international-negotiations-representative-185728668.html

Yeah, no potential conflict of interest here.

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/28/2016 1:10:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

Trump names company lawyer as international negotiations representative

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-names-company-lawyer-international-negotiations-representative-185728668.html

Yeah, no potential conflict of interest here.


Oh yeah, terrible. Its practically a crime against humanity for a Republican to appoint the best person he knows to a given position isnt it

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/28/2016 1:12:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph
In every other country on the globe (maybe except yours) this is simply called corruption.

Any more to abandon, or "bend in favour"?

It's not corruption.
The founder of our country, pretty much have his wife, run public transport, his daughter in law manage our tax payers money in investments, keeping our country reserves in surpluses by the multi-billions, and have his sons run our major telecommunications providers. Not in government positions. Public transportation is privatised, and the company is owned by his wife. Telecommunications is obviously private companies and own by his sons. Fund managing of our reserve is also by an external fund managing company, where his daughter in law was CEO in.

Yet we have one of the lowest corruption in the world. How corrupted a country is, is not decided by us in international rankings.

Family can be in business catering to the government and it doesn't have to be corrupted. As long as they work towards the good of the country.

In this situation, i see no evidence of corruption. I do not believe Trump is forcing diplomats to use Trump organization services at all.

The problem now is IF they choose to, Trump gets in trouble.

That's ridiculous.

But it's just interesting how in our situation. None of us raise up a stink about his family running all the major things, because they are doing such a great job with it.

And if they fuck up, they get penalties accordingly. No special treatment.

But I *think* US doesn't have a system where they fine telecommunications and transportation companies for not performing up to a certain level of standards.

Well the GSA is paying a Trump co. for security for starters. The new sec. of state wants a good deal for Russian oil for Exxon. Think he'll get it ? The Trump Foundation to IRS...we ARE corrupt !!

Comparing your country with no power to change anything in the world, with ours who preaches transparency and 'not even an appearance of any conflicts' and is the world's superpower...is not even a nice try.

Oh not to put to fine a point on all of this, Trump International is on a ground lease with the GSA that specifically prohibits ownership from being ANY elected official. Oh but hey, what's a little corruption when we all wish we too could be greedy, capitalist scum and be elected POUS ?

... and this.


OF COURSE you like that

Mr Rogers is so moronic I dont even read his posts, skip over them because he is such a mindless drooler, even worse than you.

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/28/2016 5:42:14 AM   
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Oh yeah, terrible. Its practically a crime against humanity for a Republican to appoint the best person he knows to a given position isnt it

It's certainly a crime against the Republican party, whose longstanding policy of appointing cronies, yes-men and chiselers el presidente is upholding.

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/28/2016 5:43:40 AM   
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well lets face it, he thought"divesting" himself of the "trump foundation" would be good for him...
he cant do anything with it, until the investigation is over.

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/28/2016 6:04:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: blnymph
In every other country on the globe (maybe except yours) this is simply called corruption.

Any more to abandon, or "bend in favour"?

It's not corruption.
The founder of our country, pretty much have his wife, run public transport, his daughter in law manage our tax payers money in investments, keeping our country reserves in surpluses by the multi-billions, and have his sons run our major telecommunications providers. Not in government positions. Public transportation is privatised, and the company is owned by his wife. Telecommunications is obviously private companies and own by his sons. Fund managing of our reserve is also by an external fund managing company, where his daughter in law was CEO in.

Yet we have one of the lowest corruption in the world. How corrupted a country is, is not decided by us in international rankings.

Family can be in business catering to the government and it doesn't have to be corrupted. As long as they work towards the good of the country.

In this situation, i see no evidence of corruption. I do not believe Trump is forcing diplomats to use Trump organization services at all.

The problem now is IF they choose to, Trump gets in trouble.

That's ridiculous.

But it's just interesting how in our situation. None of us raise up a stink about his family running all the major things, because they are doing such a great job with it.

And if they fuck up, they get penalties accordingly. No special treatment.

But I *think* US doesn't have a system where they fine telecommunications and transportation companies for not performing up to a certain level of standards.

Well the GSA is paying a Trump co. for security for starters. The new sec. of state wants a good deal for Russian oil for Exxon. Think he'll get it ? The Trump Foundation to IRS...we ARE corrupt !!

Comparing your country with no power to change anything in the world, with ours who preaches transparency and 'not even an appearance of any conflicts' and is the world's superpower...is not even a nice try.

Oh not to put to fine a point on all of this, Trump International is on a ground lease with the GSA that specifically prohibits ownership from being ANY elected official. Oh but hey, what's a little corruption when we all wish we too could be greedy, capitalist scum and be elected POUS ?

... and this.


OF COURSE you like that

Mr Rogers is so moronic I dont even read his posts, skip over them because he is such a mindless drooler, even worse than you.

Now that made me laugh.

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 12/28/2016 6:27:32 AM   
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Conflict of interests, vested interests, etc should bother all of the feeble electorate/humans.

I can’t single Strumpet out on this. Granted his grab em by the pussy claws/tentacles are entangled elbow deep in many pies/arseholes..will be his downfall, although I now uncertain if he will be impeached as I have only just realized, fully this year, “his” party/elctoral college to be a bunch of complete pinko pussies hailing the one Called Emperor Putin. When more democrats/college man/women up - makes them, the collective, utter fuking self interested cowards/weasels

Any a'person - So from party donations, to his wife owns some shares in this and that - of his mate, perhaps their cousin etc and they were miraculously aware lets say an NHS contract - their minions awarded with a quango position, a place on a board, a wheelbarrow of gold etc

Obviously I believe the problem utterly endemic both sides in America...and in the UK Torries, or whatever they call themselves, Lib dems, if they still exist, some of labour, almost none of the SNP or greens....and I miss screaming lord such - monster raving loony party may he RIP it so is a real thing I only make the forty foot cock thing up (its 42) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screaming_Lord_Sutch





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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 1/6/2017 7:45:59 AM   
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Trump Business Deals In Southeast Asia Raise Conflict Of Interest

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/01/06/508411598/trump-business-deals-in-southeast-asia-raise-conflict-of-interest-concerns

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RE: Trump's conflicts of interest. Do they matter ? - 1/6/2017 12:32:34 PM   
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More than his holdings in Dubai and Qatar, or the fact that he'll do anything Putin tells him to if it avoids having his hotel in Moscow seized?

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