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ORIGINAL: klmpong

I hear a lot of bashing of Fox news but NOT ONE can give any specifics of poor journalism.
In fact, Fox news is the last vestige of solid journalism in the country. That's what pisses them off. The truth won't die no matter what bullshit they throw at it.
Unlike MSNBC, CBS, NBC and CNN that have ALL been caught LYING and even stated publicly that they have forgone journalistic integrity for "the common good".
It is clear that the left just can't handle the TRUTH. They don't even believe in the concept of truth. It doesn't exist to them.
That's why we are still hearing all the crying about how it is someone else's fault that hc got her ass beat.
Hacking? Well whoever did it, they did it with ,.....the TRUTH.
It is still fun listening to the crying though. Music to my ears!
Stupidity should hurt.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: klmpong

I hear a lot of bashing of Fox news but NOT ONE can give any specifics of poor journalism.
In fact, Fox news is the last vestige of solid journalism in the country. That's what pisses them off. The truth won't die no matter what bullshit they throw at it.
Unlike MSNBC, CBS, NBC and CNN that have ALL been caught LYING and even stated publicly that they have forgone journalistic integrity for "the common good".
It is clear that the left just can't handle the TRUTH. They don't even believe in the concept of truth. It doesn't exist to them.
That's why we are still hearing all the crying about how it is someone else's fault that hc got her ass beat.
Hacking? Well whoever did it, they did it with ,.....the TRUTH.
It is still fun listening to the crying though. Music to my ears!
Stupidity should hurt.

some MORONIC leftie will always be able to come up with some instances where fox make a mistake (to which in their own twisted mind they will attribute to nefarious purposes), or got duped, and in their "liberalism is a mental disorder" status, not be able to tell the difference between when that very same thing happens to other networks as compared to when it happens to fox.

they'll further be unable to tell the difference between what they call "faux news," poor journalism or lying and differences of opinion.

for the most part however, the whiners don't actually watch fox news.

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ORIGINAL: klmpong

I hear a lot of bashing of Fox news but NOT ONE can give any specifics of poor journalism.
In fact, Fox news is the last vestige of solid journalism in the country. That's what pisses them off. The truth won't die no matter what bullshit they throw at it.
Unlike MSNBC, CBS, NBC and CNN that have ALL been caught LYING and even stated publicly that they have forgone journalistic integrity for "the common good".
It is clear that the left just can't handle the TRUTH. They don't even believe in the concept of truth. It doesn't exist to them.
That's why we are still hearing all the crying about how it is someone else's fault that hc got her ass beat.
Hacking? Well whoever did it, they did it with ,.....the TRUTH.
It is still fun listening to the crying though. Music to my ears!
Stupidity should hurt.

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Marini

I am not starting this thread to add to the partisan squabbles easily found on 99% of the other threads on here.

But, we all know its going to happen.

It is evident everywhere that the next 4 years in the United States are going to be politically turbulent and excruciating.

This country and the world is at a precipice.
We are going to have to find some ways to work out differences, and find many middle of the road solutions, or continue to become even more fractured.

Adversity often makes people/and situations stronger, the citizenry will either become stronger, build some bridges, and learn to work together for the good of ALL the citizens, or we will all suffer the consequences.

At some point, many of us, WILL have to realize, it is not always MY WAY, THEIR WAY or THE HIGHWAY--it often has to be OUR WAY.
Or again, we all will suffer the consequences.

United we will learn to stand, or divided we may fall.

In the end, I have to believe that MOST people despite having extreme differences of opinions, outlooks, and political beliefs want what is best for our country, our families, our children's futures, future generations, and this planet that we call Earth.
Right now, this is the only livable planet that we have to live on.

Hang on to your hat's the next 4 years are going to be the bumpiest, most turbulent political ride many of us have ever experienced, in our lifetime.
I hope for the sake of this country and this world/this planet that we can actually create bridges, instead of relentless discord.

Please save the partisan bitching and bickering for every other thread on here.
I would love to see some messages of hope if possible.

Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah/Happy Kwanzaa/Happy Boxing Day/Happy Holidays
Peace and Blessings to all
[sm=smiley_balloon002.gif]

Unfortunately virtually every post so far has been proclamations of trying to stop anything Trump wants to do and reviving the slander of Reagan that he wanted to blow up the world and was so stupid that he would start WWIII the first time someone looked cross eyed at him. Fortunately the worst comes from Canadians so they can't do as much damage as Americans could.
Personally I don't think Trump will be that great (I voted more against Hillary than for him) but at least with him we have a chance of a decent president.
We can at least try. I detest Obama (purely based on his policies) but hoped it would work out for the country, never wanted him to die after getting rid of Biden. How about we give him a chance?

Actually that is where I was "sort of" going with this thread.
There are many, many, many people who are determined to not give him a chance.
I hated George Bush, and I tried hard to tolerate him and give him a chance.
It did not work well, but I tried.....he just kept pissing me off.
The point is..... I did try to stomach and accept him.
Many are not even willing to try to give the Donald any kind of chances.
*Trump has managed to offend and piss off so many people, PRIOR to being elected, that many do not appear to be willing, to TRY to give Trump a chance.*

This country seems to become more and more divided, and I don't see many on either side, attempting to bridge the divide.
Does the middle exist any more?

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

My year is complete.

Now the US is going to build more "nukes".

It's all been worth it after all - the hatred, the division, the final triumph of propaganda over news, the complete removal of checks and balances in the once revered American political system on the basis of the narrowest popular victory.

I was worried for a moment there but I truly believe that the power of Christmas and the spirit of cooperation that the US has shown the world over the last four years in its domestic politics might just win the day. From chaos, the serenity and grace of the American people, helped by the goodwill of the festive period, will shine through and something wonderful will happen.

I can't help but feel more optimistic now that I know that it's not just Tweets and empty rhetoric - it's nuclear warheads too!

No chance of an itchy Twitter finger becoming an itchy trigger finger, is there?

All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Who knows what fucking lunacy it will bring?

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

quote:

ORIGINAL: longwayhome

My year is complete.

Now the US is going to build more "nukes".

It's all been worth it after all - the hatred, the division, the final triumph of propaganda over news, the complete removal of checks and balances in the once revered American political system on the basis of the narrowest popular victory.

I was worried for a moment there but I truly believe that the power of Christmas and the spirit of cooperation that the US has shown the world over the last four years in its domestic politics might just win the day. From chaos, the serenity and grace of the American people, helped by the goodwill of the festive period, will shine through and something wonderful will happen.

I can't help but feel more optimistic now that I know that it's not just Tweets and empty rhetoric - it's nuclear warheads too!

No chance of an itchy Twitter finger becoming an itchy trigger finger, is there?

All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Who knows what fucking lunacy it will bring?

Many apologies to those who thought I was being partisan and to the OP.

I was not being partisan but bemoaning the whole situation and not sharing the OP's confidence in the people being bigger than the politics. The whole divisiveness, complete deadlock and name-calling has been going on for longer than the election of a single president, and when writing my post I thought that the hope that bridges could be built seemed a remote possibility, given the entrenched views and bitterness on both sides.

My outpouring of lack of hope was however self indulgent, given the fact that it was likely to encourage partisan comment despite the OP's desire to avoid partisan politics.

I do indeed hope that something good can come from the schism developing in politics and civil society across the western world because, when we get it wrong, we do it in a style which makes all the conflicts of the last seventy years seem like child's play.

For that reason I am sincerely hoping for hope and "nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change" I wish to join the OP in wishing peace and love to all my fellow planet dwellers.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

The left is so weak that it doesn't matter. They have no power. That's what happens when you're weak. You lose influence.

You think you have power because you've chosen a side.
LOL.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I guess the lesson here is that as long as you follow Fox News and random right-wing blogs exclusively, and label everything else liberal brainwashing, you'll feel good about the future.

And I guess the lesson, here is that you know sweet fuck-all about me. I watch Wolf and Madcow, every day. Nice try, but no mind reading certificate for you, today.

You're dismissed.



Michael

lemme chime in to say I find such statements about fox news incredibly idiotic because its clear from the people who make them, that they don't actually watch it.

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

quote:

ORIGINAL: longwayhome

My year is complete.

Now the US is going to build more "nukes".

It's all been worth it after all - the hatred, the division, the final triumph of propaganda over news, the complete removal of checks and balances in the once revered American political system on the basis of the narrowest popular victory.

I was worried for a moment there but I truly believe that the power of Christmas and the spirit of cooperation that the US has shown the world over the last four years in its domestic politics might just win the day. From chaos, the serenity and grace of the American people, helped by the goodwill of the festive period, will shine through and something wonderful will happen.

I can't help but feel more optimistic now that I know that it's not just Tweets and empty rhetoric - it's nuclear warheads too!

No chance of an itchy Twitter finger becoming an itchy trigger finger, is there?

All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Who knows what fucking lunacy it will bring?

Many apologies to those who thought I was being partisan and to the OP.

I was not being partisan but bemoaning the whole situation and not sharing the OP's confidence in the people being bigger than the politics. The whole divisiveness, complete deadlock and name-calling has been going on for longer than the election of a single president, and when writing my post I thought that the hope that bridges could be built seemed a remote possibility, given the entrenched views and bitterness on both sides.

My outpouring of lack of hope was however self indulgent, given the fact that it was likely to encourage partisan comment despite the OP's desire to avoid partisan politics.

I do indeed hope that something good can come from the schism developing in politics and civil society across the western world because, when we get it wrong, we do it in a style which makes all the conflicts of the last seventy years seem like child's play.

For that reason I am sincerely hoping for hope and "nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change" I wish to join the OP in wishing peace and love to all my fellow planet dwellers.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I guess the lesson here is that as long as you follow Fox News and random right-wing blogs exclusively, and label everything else liberal brainwashing, you'll feel good about the future.

And I guess the lesson, here is that you know sweet fuck-all about me. I watch Wolf and Madcow, every day. Nice try, but no mind reading certificate for you, today.

You're dismissed.



Michael

lemme chime in to say I find such statements about fox news incredibly idiotic because its clear from the people who make them, that they don't actually watch it.

I do, I also listen to Beck and Laura

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ORIGINAL: Marini

quote:

ORIGINAL: longwayhome

quote:

ORIGINAL: longwayhome

My year is complete.

Now the US is going to build more "nukes".

It's all been worth it after all - the hatred, the division, the final triumph of propaganda over news, the complete removal of checks and balances in the once revered American political system on the basis of the narrowest popular victory.

I was worried for a moment there but I truly believe that the power of Christmas and the spirit of cooperation that the US has shown the world over the last four years in its domestic politics might just win the day. From chaos, the serenity and grace of the American people, helped by the goodwill of the festive period, will shine through and something wonderful will happen.

I can't help but feel more optimistic now that I know that it's not just Tweets and empty rhetoric - it's nuclear warheads too!

No chance of an itchy Twitter finger becoming an itchy trigger finger, is there?

All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Who knows what fucking lunacy it will bring?

Many apologies to those who thought I was being partisan and to the OP.

I was not being partisan but bemoaning the whole situation and not sharing the OP's confidence in the people being bigger than the politics. The whole divisiveness, complete deadlock and name-calling has been going on for longer than the election of a single president, and when writing my post I thought that the hope that bridges could be built seemed a remote possibility, given the entrenched views and bitterness on both sides.

My outpouring of lack of hope was however self indulgent, given the fact that it was likely to encourage partisan comment despite the OP's desire to avoid partisan politics.

I do indeed hope that something good can come from the schism developing in politics and civil society across the western world because, when we get it wrong, we do it in a style which makes all the conflicts of the last seventy years seem like child's play.

For that reason I am sincerely hoping for hope and "nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change" I wish to join the OP in wishing peace and love to all my fellow planet dwellers.

[sm=applause.gif]
What a lovely and thoughtful post!
I agree that hoping that more people would attempt to open their minds, and meet somewhere in the middle, is dubious at best.

But since this IS the season for many of HOPE, why not hope for hope?
I understand many people will never be able to see any good in the Donald, but since he is the President elect, I am putting some faith and hope in him.
Do I have complete faith in him?
Of course not, I have never had complete faith in ANY President, including the current one, which I voted for twice.
I did not care for either candidate this year---I DISLIKED THEM BOTH.
BUT I am going to try to have some faith, in ANYONE that is elected President of the U.S.

I will put as much faith in the DONALD, that I would have put in HILLIARY.
no more and no less
Which is not much, but it is something.

This does not mean, I won't be watching, caring, or be concerned, and believe me I am concerned.

Do I expect Donald Trump to do and say silly and stupid things? OF course I do!!

What you see is what you get.
Am I going to spend the next 4 years on here debating every stupid thing he says? HELL NO
[;)]
We all can choose hope or no hope, regardless of how bad things are, I will always have hope.
Like you said, things can get worse, and if they DO, I will still have hope.
If this earth is coming to an end next week, guess what? I will still have hope.
The hope that I have does not come from this earth.
PEACE
Thank you again, and Merry Christmas.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

The left is so weak that it doesn't matter. They have no power. That's what happens when you're weak. You lose influence.

You think you have power because you've chosen a side.
LOL.

Actually i haven't chosen anything. But i do hope it all works out well.

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ORIGINAL: Marini

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: Marini

I am not starting this thread to add to the partisan squabbles easily found on 99% of the other threads on here.

But, we all know its going to happen.

It is evident everywhere that the next 4 years in the United States are going to be politically turbulent and excruciating.

This country and the world is at a precipice.
We are going to have to find some ways to work out differences, and find many middle of the road solutions, or continue to become even more fractured.

Adversity often makes people/and situations stronger, the citizenry will either become stronger, build some bridges, and learn to work together for the good of ALL the citizens, or we will all suffer the consequences.

At some point, many of us, WILL have to realize, it is not always MY WAY, THEIR WAY or THE HIGHWAY--it often has to be OUR WAY.
Or again, we all will suffer the consequences.

United we will learn to stand, or divided we may fall.

In the end, I have to believe that MOST people despite having extreme differences of opinions, outlooks, and political beliefs want what is best for our country, our families, our children's futures, future generations, and this planet that we call Earth.
Right now, this is the only livable planet that we have to live on.

Hang on to your hat's the next 4 years are going to be the bumpiest, most turbulent political ride many of us have ever experienced, in our lifetime.
I hope for the sake of this country and this world/this planet that we can actually create bridges, instead of relentless discord.

Please save the partisan bitching and bickering for every other thread on here.
I would love to see some messages of hope if possible.

Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah/Happy Kwanzaa/Happy Boxing Day/Happy Holidays
Peace and Blessings to all
[sm=smiley_balloon002.gif]

Unfortunately virtually every post so far has been proclamations of trying to stop anything Trump wants to do and reviving the slander of Reagan that he wanted to blow up the world and was so stupid that he would start WWIII the first time someone looked cross eyed at him. Fortunately the worst comes from Canadians so they can't do as much damage as Americans could.
Personally I don't think Trump will be that great (I voted more against Hillary than for him) but at least with him we have a chance of a decent president.
We can at least try. I detest Obama (purely based on his policies) but hoped it would work out for the country, never wanted him to die after getting rid of Biden. How about we give him a chance?

Actually that is where I was "sort of" going with this thread.
There are many, many, many people who are determined to not give him a chance.
I hated George Bush, and I tried hard to tolerate him and give him a chance.
It did not work well, but I tried.....he just kept pissing me off.
The point is..... I did try to stomach and accept him.
Many are not even willing to try to give the Donald any kind of chances.
*Trump has managed to offend and piss off so many people, PRIOR to being elected, that many do not appear to be willing, to TRY to give Trump a chance.*

This country seems to become more and more divided, and I don't see many on either side, attempting to bridge the divide.
Does the middle exist any more?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

cnn hasnt been balanced since Zucker took over, and even more right wing when they gave corey lewandowski a job while he was still with trump.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

quote:

ORIGINAL: longwayhome

My year is complete.

Now the US is going to build more "nukes".

It's all been worth it after all - the hatred, the division, the final triumph of propaganda over news, the complete removal of checks and balances in the once revered American political system on the basis of the narrowest popular victory.

I was worried for a moment there but I truly believe that the power of Christmas and the spirit of cooperation that the US has shown the world over the last four years in its domestic politics might just win the day. From chaos, the serenity and grace of the American people, helped by the goodwill of the festive period, will shine through and something wonderful will happen.

I can't help but feel more optimistic now that I know that it's not just Tweets and empty rhetoric - it's nuclear warheads too!

No chance of an itchy Twitter finger becoming an itchy trigger finger, is there?

All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Who knows what fucking lunacy it will bring?

Many apologies to those who thought I was being partisan and to the OP.

I was not being partisan but bemoaning the whole situation and not sharing the OP's confidence in the people being bigger than the politics. The whole divisiveness, complete deadlock and name-calling has been going on for longer than the election of a single president, and when writing my post I thought that the hope that bridges could be built seemed a remote possibility, given the entrenched views and bitterness on both sides.

My outpouring of lack of hope was however self indulgent, given the fact that it was likely to encourage partisan comment despite the OP's desire to avoid partisan politics.

I do indeed hope that something good can come from the schism developing in politics and civil society across the western world because, when we get it wrong, we do it in a style which makes all the conflicts of the last seventy years seem like child's play.

For that reason I am sincerely hoping for hope and "nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change" I wish to join the OP in wishing peace and love to all my fellow planet dwellers.

He wasn't nailed to a tree because of that.