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BamaD -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/30/2016 5:04:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CaptR quote: ORIGINAL: Charles6682 That doesn't mean people should be able to have access to military style guns. Of course it does! When society as we know it collapses I for one don't want to be "out-gunned!"😄😜👍 Actually civilian purchase of anything with a selector switch (which would be what separates military style weapons from civilian ones) is greatly restricted you can get on the senate intelligence committee easier.

BamaD -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/30/2016 5:05:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD He failed to notice I didn't say when Obama sponsored the tax bill, that was in the Ill senate, but he still says it was a good idea. so he's actually wrong on two accounts! way to go mnalevolent! Par for the course.

tamaka -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/30/2016 5:43:23 PM)
I wonder if each township could actually recruit people who live in the town to form a town militia.

BamaD -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/30/2016 6:04:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka I wonder if each township could actually recruit people who live in the town to form a town militia. I am not completely sure what your point is. The right protected by the 2nd was an individual right. The bill of rights protects individual rights, or limits the power of the Federal Government. Also the meaning of the word militia, it is nothing like the meaning of the term National Guard. The 2nd says nothing about active duty militia members, it talks about a body of people who are armed and willing to defend their homes and neighbors. If I saw someone breaking into a neighbors home and stopped them it would fit into their definition of the militia. You do know that every man from 18 to the late 50's is automatically part of the militia whether they attend drills or not. The number that would take would vary from town to town with a good chance that there would be a higher % of volunteers in the smaller towns than the larger ones.

mnottertail -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/30/2016 6:34:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Presidents sponsor no bills... presidents do not "sponsor" bills in the sense of that they can introduce a bill onto the floor by themselves. however, they do so in concert with senators and congressmen. here's a page full of examples in which, "the president" is listed as sponsor: http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/sponsors/president.htm do you remember my suggesting your mean-spiritedness gets in the way of your ability to read? I suggest it does likewise for circumspection. as for the rest of your post---well, decent people don't think and speak that way do they? I trust you can do the math... Uh, yeah, no, do you remember how I said you are a felchgobbler and a retard, and that you you are innumerate, and a cretin and unteachable? The president of the Maryland State Senate is a Senator and equivalent in his Legislature to Mitch McConnell in the US Senate. You wouldnt know shit about what decent people do you fucking scumbag toiletlicking felchgobbler, you have no commerce or knowledge of them. your quoting of the word sponsor for emphasis, is an indication you dont agree with the use of the word, and I also dont agree with the use of that word since Presidents do not sponsor bills. If you could get a job (you cant) you would be fired. If you could go to school (you cant) you would fail. Strive to be more than an imbecilic buffon, dogshit44,

mnottertail -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/30/2016 6:40:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD He failed to notice I didn't say when Obama sponsored the tax bill, that was in the Ill senate, but he still says it was a good idea. so he's actually wrong on two accounts! way to go mnalevolent! No, doghit44 I am wrong on no counts. There was no such bill. Presidents still do not sponsor bills in the US Congress.

CaptR -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/31/2016 12:41:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: CaptR quote: ORIGINAL: Charles6682 That doesn't mean people should be able to have access to military style guns. Of course it does! When society as we know it collapses I for one don't want to be "out-gunned!"😄😜👍 Actually civilian purchase of anything with a selector switch (which would be what separates military style weapons from civilian ones) is greatly restricted you can get on the senate intelligence committee easier. Yes the process is tedious but not impossible. I've borrowed this from another forum to help describe how to. Full auto/ suppressors are more available to the general public than you might think, if you have the funds to purchase the weapon. It's also possible to legally construct your own suppressors provided you fill out the correct forms and pay the federal fees. Most states permit citizens to own full-auto weapons. You can forget California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey and probably a few others. 1. The first step is to contact the Sheriff of the county in which you live. Ask the Sheriff if he will sign off on a Form 4 for you to own a machine gun. He'll know what you are asking. Generally, Big City Sheriffs are less likely to sign; small town and more rural Sheriffs seem more inclined to sign. You'll either get a positive response or a smart-ass response. 2. Have about $4,000+ cash ready to spend. You will need to pay for the gun, at least one $200 revenue stamp tax, and some money to a Class III dealer to complete the transfer for you. 3. If you are a convicted felon, you can probably forget about it. 4. Be prepared to have the local Sheriff do his own investigation, which could mean just about anything. Mine sent a deputy out to interview my neighbors and interview my wife before he would sign. I've heard of some who want to see that you have a safe to lock it up in. 5. Find and negotiate your purchase of the intended firearm. Complete the Form 4 (ask others how to answer certain questions), and submit it to BATFE together with finger print card and photograph. BATFE will get the FBI to do a background investigation on you - what they actually do, beyond a NICS check, I have no idea. Wait 3-6 months and then your Class III dealer will notify you when you can take possession of the machinegun you have already purchased. 6. Note, you need to know whether you can get through the process before you purchase the gun. The purchase takes place when you pay for it, not when you take possession. If you aren't permitted to take possession - YOU STILL OWN THE MACHINEGUN, but it must stay with the Class III dealer, meaning you will probably have to turn around and sell it. 7. There are ways to get around a CLEO who won't sign off on your Form 4 - LLC, Corp, Trust. Yes, if done right, it works, but you will need to pay a lawyer to do this for you. Not a huge deal, but just more added bullcrap. 8. If you do complete the transfer and take possession of the machinegun - KNOW THE LAWS regarding moving out of state. 9. Also note: check and make sure that you actually have a place somewhat nearby that you can shoot it if you intend to shoot it. I had to join a private shooting range for this.

bounty44 -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/31/2016 4:40:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Uh, yeah, no, do you remember how I said you are a felchgobbler and a retard, and that you you are innumerate, and a cretin and unteachable? The president of the Maryland State Senate is a Senator and equivalent in his Legislature to Mitch McConnell in the US Senate. You wouldnt know shit about what decent people do you fucking scumbag toiletlicking felchgobbler, you have no commerce or knowledge of them. your quoting of the word sponsor for emphasis, is an indication you dont agree with the use of the word, and I also dont agree with the use of that word since Presidents do not sponsor bills. If you could get a job (you cant) you would be fired. If you could go to school (you cant) you would fail. Strive to be more than an imbecilic buffon, dogshit44, ah, well you got me on that one mnalevolent. I was wrong on that account. so we'll just go back to your being wrong on one, instead of both. as for the rest of your post---try for some originality sometime maybe? ineffectually parroting back whats been rightly said to you, and making up vile juvenile rants, just doesn't work you know?

mnottertail -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/31/2016 6:09:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Uh, yeah, no, do you remember how I said you are a felchgobbler and a retard, and that you you are innumerate, and a cretin and unteachable? The president of the Maryland State Senate is a Senator and equivalent in his Legislature to Mitch McConnell in the US Senate. You wouldnt know shit about what decent people do you fucking scumbag toiletlicking felchgobbler, you have no commerce or knowledge of them. your quoting of the word sponsor for emphasis, is an indication you dont agree with the use of the word, and I also dont agree with the use of that word since Presidents do not sponsor bills. If you could get a job (you cant) you would be fired. If you could go to school (you cant) you would fail. Strive to be more than an imbecilic buffon, dogshit44, ah, well you got me on that one mnalevolent. I was wrong on that account. so we'll just go back to your being wrong on one, instead of both. as for the rest of your post---try for some originality sometime maybe? ineffectually parroting back whats been rightly said to you, and making up vile juvenile rants, just doesn't work you know? You are a retard, dogshit44. You are always wrong, factless, and felchgobbling. I am wrong on nothing. Ineffectual parrotiing is your specialty. Nobody gives the glimmer of a good goddamn fuck about your felchgobbling, dogshit44. You are pathetic and an imbecilic buffoon.

lovmuffin -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/31/2016 6:25:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Oh mental patient, you're calling me a child molester. You are truly, both, sick and upset at me seeing you so clearly. im glad to see someone reported the post. how he gets to remain on the site is a mystery to me. That makes me wonder too. Others have been banned for much less than the filth he rants. I'm sure he's been beat up on numerous occasions so he comes here with his incoherent crap because he can get away with it.

BamaD -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (12/31/2016 9:53:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CaptR quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: CaptR quote: ORIGINAL: Charles6682 That doesn't mean people should be able to have access to military style guns. Of course it does! When society as we know it collapses I for one don't want to be "out-gunned!"😄😜👍 Actually civilian purchase of anything with a selector switch (which would be what separates military style weapons from civilian ones) is greatly restricted you can get on the senate intelligence committee easier. Yes the process is tedious but not impossible. I've borrowed this from another forum to help describe how to. Full auto/ suppressors are more available to the general public than you might think, if you have the funds to purchase the weapon. It's also possible to legally construct your own suppressors provided you fill out the correct forms and pay the federal fees. Most states permit citizens to own full-auto weapons. You can forget California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey and probably a few others. 1. The first step is to contact the Sheriff of the county in which you live. Ask the Sheriff if he will sign off on a Form 4 for you to own a machine gun. He'll know what you are asking. Generally, Big City Sheriffs are less likely to sign; small town and more rural Sheriffs seem more inclined to sign. You'll either get a positive response or a smart-ass response. 2. Have about $4,000+ cash ready to spend. You will need to pay for the gun, at least one $200 revenue stamp tax, and some money to a Class III dealer to complete the transfer for you. 3. If you are a convicted felon, you can probably forget about it. 4. Be prepared to have the local Sheriff do his own investigation, which could mean just about anything. Mine sent a deputy out to interview my neighbors and interview my wife before he would sign. I've heard of some who want to see that you have a safe to lock it up in. 5. Find and negotiate your purchase of the intended firearm. Complete the Form 4 (ask others how to answer certain questions), and submit it to BATFE together with finger print card and photograph. BATFE will get the FBI to do a background investigation on you - what they actually do, beyond a NICS check, I have no idea. Wait 3-6 months and then your Class III dealer will notify you when you can take possession of the machinegun you have already purchased. 6. Note, you need to know whether you can get through the process before you purchase the gun. The purchase takes place when you pay for it, not when you take possession. If you aren't permitted to take possession - YOU STILL OWN THE MACHINEGUN, but it must stay with the Class III dealer, meaning you will probably have to turn around and sell it. 7. There are ways to get around a CLEO who won't sign off on your Form 4 - LLC, Corp, Trust. Yes, if done right, it works, but you will need to pay a lawyer to do this for you. Not a huge deal, but just more added bullcrap. 8. If you do complete the transfer and take possession of the machinegun - KNOW THE LAWS regarding moving out of state. 9. Also note: check and make sure that you actually have a place somewhat nearby that you can shoot it if you intend to shoot it. I had to join a private shooting range for this. Yes, I know all of this. BTW a felony conviction will keep you from getting a single shot .22 so yes there is no doubt it would keep you from getting a full auto. I wasn't saying it could not be done, however the number of people who can get one is insignificant. The thug with a .25 auto concerns me more than a person who undergoes the process to get a BAR.

Musicmystery -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (1/6/2017 7:38:10 AM)
So...more people, including liberals, buying guns, makes us all safer and more democratic, right?

Lucylastic -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (1/6/2017 7:52:03 AM)
and politer:) dont forget polite....

WhoreMods -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (1/6/2017 12:34:27 PM)
I've never understood this "an armed society is a polite society" thing: the Somalians I've met are the rudest fuckers about.

mnottertail -> RE: US Liberals are buying guns (1/6/2017 12:38:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Oh mental patient, you're calling me a child molester. You are truly, both, sick and upset at me seeing you so clearly. im glad to see someone reported the post. how he gets to remain on the site is a mystery to me. That makes me wonder too. Others have been banned for much less than the filth he rants. I'm sure he's been beat up on numerous occasions so he comes here with his incoherent crap because he can get away with it. I am sure you are enjoying your toiletwater, you fucking pathetic unintelligible incoherent retard.

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