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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Dinsesh d'Souza the convicted voting fraudster goon and thug knows nothing about the constitution except violation dogshit44, townhall is a slobber blog, and you are still felching grandly...

You cant answer a simple question. Virginia had more electors than Pennsylvania, WHY?

It wouldn't matter if he was a convicted murderer, neither does it matter who published him. You're just waving your hands to try to distract people from the rabbit. And disparate impact does not establish intention, so that, too, is just more of your hand waving.

K.

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The contemporary left holds that non-socialist societies are composed largely of dominators and the dominated, oppressors and the oppressed. The alleged cause of this social arrangement is the economic system of free-market capitalism, which is viewed by the left as the root of all manner of social ills and vices -- racism, sexism, alienation, homophobia, and imperialism. In the calculus of the left, capitalism is an agent of tyranny and exploitation that presses its boot upon the proverbial necks of a wide array of victim groups -- blacks and other minorities, women, homosexuals, immigrants, and the poor, to name but a few. That is why according to the left, the United States (historically the standard-bearer of all capitalist economies) can only do wrong…

Calling themselves “liberals,” today’s leftists (descended from the New Left) claim the moral high ground as self-anointed exemplars of compassion and enlightenment -- counterweights to the supposedly “reactionary” conservatives they depict as heartless monsters. The modern left understands that in order to win the hearts and minds of Americans, it must present its totalitarian objective -- the uncompromising destruction of the status quo -- in the non-threatening lexicon of traditional Western values; that is, it must cite, as its animating purpose, the promotion of such lofty ideals as “human rights,” “civil rights,” “civil liberties,” and above all, “social justice,” or the “correction” of the free market’s inherent inequalities through political interventions of a Marxist nature. As the perennial Socialist presidential candidate Norman Thomas once said: “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”…

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The Left needs racism, because unlike their good, old-fashioned Marxist forebears, the postmodern Left’s politics is not rooted in economics or history but in narrative — the most adolescent narrative: Good Guys and Bad Guys. (You could call it Cowboys and Indians, but that would be . . . )…

At this point in history, the Left needs a spectral standard of evidence when convicting its opponents of racism because there is so little actual evidence to be found. Right = Racist is an article of faith on the left, facts be damned.

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Here at Constitution.com we’ve covered the left’s recently discovered animus towards the Electoral College, but we’ve also explained why the left is wrong and it’s actually a brilliant way to protect everyone’s rights (see here, here, and here).

Honestly, the Electoral College is bound to be blamed anytime a candidate wins the popular vote but loses the election. However, the short-lived debate that one would expect seems to be dragging on longer than usual after the 2016 election and the fight to abolish the Electoral College, while doomed for failure, seems to be more aggressive than we might normally expect.

Part of this could be explained by the modern Democrat Party’s hatred for our Republican form of government and their worshipping at the altar of Democracy. (There is a reason that pure democracies don’t exist folks; it’s because they don’t work.) But Fox News host Bill O’Reilly has another theory… liberals want to abolish the Electoral College because they are anti-working class white people. [oh no comrades, fox news!]

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After Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, the left in America is demanding that the Electoral College system, put into place in 1787, be scrapped.

But there is a hidden reason for this. As we have reported, even though Secretary Clinton won the popular vote by 2.8 million, the progressive state of California provided that margin, Clinton defeating Trump there by about 4.3 million votes.

So, if the Electoral College were abolished, presidential candidates could simply campaign in the nation’s largest states and cities – New York, LA, Chicago, Houston – and rack up enough votes to pretty much win any election.

That’s what the left wants – because in the large urban areas and blue states like New York and California, minorities are substantial.

Look at the landscape – Philadelphia, Dallas – Fort Worth, Miami – in all of these places the minority vote usually goes heavily to the Democrats.

Add that to New York City, LA, Chicago, and San Francisco and you don’t really have a national election anymore, you have targeted populations.

Newspapers like the New York Times and the L.A. Times have editorialized to get rid of the Electoral College.

They well know that neutralizing the largely white rural areas in the Midwest and South will assure liberal politicians, get power and keep it.

Talking Points believes this is all about race. The left sees white privilege in America as an oppressive force that must be done away with.

Therefore white working-class voters must be marginalized, and what better way to do that than center the voting power in the cities?

Very few commentators will tell you that the heart of liberalism in America is based on race.

It permeates almost every issue – [even the constitution and the electoral college!] that white men have set up a system of oppression and that system must be destroyed.

Bernie Sanders peddled that. To some extent Hillary Clinton did. And the liberal media tries to sell that all day long.

So-called white privilege bad; diversity good. [those damned dominant oppressors!]

If you look at the voting patterns, it is clear that the Democrats are heavily reliant on the minority vote.

Also on the woman vote.

White men have largely abandoned the Democrats and the left believes this is because of racism – that they want to punish minorities and keep them down.

So that’s what’s really going on when you hear about the Electoral College and how unfair it allegedly is.

Summing up, the left wants power taken away from the white establishment and they want a profound change in the way America is run.

Taking voting power away from white precincts is the quickest way to do that.

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

I am amazed this thread is still alive.

I will reiterate that the only way the Republican party (with it's current platform) will ever win the White House is with the help of the Electoral College. (Even against Democrat candidates who have no business running (e.g. Hilary Clinton).

Many people don't realize ALL of the dark aspects of this system.

For example:
State control of Federal elections: Think this is a good idea?
Suppose a Republican controlled STATE legislature passes a law banning anyone who has been convicted of a felony from voting? Suppose, that same state legislature gives the Republican Secretary of State (who also doubles as the Republican party's state chair) full authority to determine who has committed a felony or not. Suppose that same Secretary of State selects a company owned by a big Republican donor to create a list of those felons, but with no accountability for the accuracy of that list? Suppose, those names HAPPEN to be people not likely to vote for the Republican candidate?

Gee... Hmmm Could this ever happen?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

I am amazed this thread is still alive.

I will reiterate that the only way the Republican party (with it's current platform) will ever win the White House is with the help of the Electoral College. (Even against Democrat candidates who have no business running (e.g. Hilary Clinton).

Many people don't realize ALL of the dark aspects of this system.

For example:
State control of Federal elections: Think this is a good idea?
Suppose a Republican controlled STATE legislature passes a law banning anyone who has been convicted of a felony from voting? Suppose, that same state legislature gives the Republican Secretary of State (who also doubles as the Republican party's state chair) full authority to determine who has committed a felony or not. Suppose that same Secretary of State selects a company owned by a big Republican donor to create a list of those felons, but with no accountability for the accuracy of that list? Suppose, those names HAPPEN to be people not likely to vote for the Republican candidate?

Gee... Hmmm Could this ever happen?

Delving into fantasyland I see.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Michael, I never said voter fraud doesn't exist. In fact, I'm a big supporter of Voter ID requirements, to prevent voter fraud.

However, the article that bounty used was a worthless piece. I critiqued it and showed it's defects.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/

37% of Detroit precincts had more votes tabulated in the machines than voters of record by the pollworkers in those precincts.
While it may be indicative of pollworkers not recording voters properly, it could also indicate voter fraud.

That is more likely to be voter fraud than areas having more registrations than a US Census estimate says the area should have. And, even if there are, in fact, more registered voters than actual residents eligible to vote, if it's because the voter rolls haven't been cleaned of those that have moved or those that are no longer alive, if those registered voters don't vote, there isn't any fraud.

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

I am amazed this thread is still alive.

I will reiterate that the only way the Republican party (with it's current platform) will ever win the White House is with the help of the Electoral College. (Even against Democrat candidates who have no business running (e.g. Hilary Clinton).

Many people don't realize ALL of the dark aspects of this system.

For example:
State control of Federal elections: Think this is a good idea?
Suppose a Republican controlled STATE legislature passes a law banning anyone who has been convicted of a felony from voting? Suppose, that same state legislature gives the Republican Secretary of State (who also doubles as the Republican party's state chair) full authority to determine who has committed a felony or not. Suppose that same Secretary of State selects a company owned by a big Republican donor to create a list of those felons, but with no accountability for the accuracy of that list? Suppose, those names HAPPEN to be people not likely to vote for the Republican candidate?

Gee... Hmmm Could this ever happen?

Delving into fantasyland I see.

I wish it were a fantasy. Unfortunately it occurred, and resulted in a terrible reality for this country.

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

I am amazed this thread is still alive.

I will reiterate that the only way the Republican party (with it's current platform) will ever win the White House is with the help of the Electoral College. (Even against Democrat candidates who have no business running (e.g. Hilary Clinton).

Many people don't realize ALL of the dark aspects of this system.

For example:
State control of Federal elections: Think this is a good idea?
Suppose a Republican controlled STATE legislature passes a law banning anyone who has been convicted of a felony from voting? Suppose, that same state legislature gives the Republican Secretary of State (who also doubles as the Republican party's state chair) full authority to determine who has committed a felony or not. Suppose that same Secretary of State selects a company owned by a big Republican donor to create a list of those felons, but with no accountability for the accuracy of that list? Suppose, those names HAPPEN to be people not likely to vote for the Republican candidate?

Gee... Hmmm Could this ever happen?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

I am amazed this thread is still alive.

I will reiterate that the only way the Republican party (with it's current platform) will ever win the White House is with the help of the Electoral College. (Even against Democrat candidates who have no business running (e.g. Hilary Clinton).

Many people don't realize ALL of the dark aspects of this system.

For example:
State control of Federal elections: Think this is a good idea?
Suppose a Republican controlled STATE legislature passes a law banning anyone who has been convicted of a felony from voting? Suppose, that same state legislature gives the Republican Secretary of State (who also doubles as the Republican party's state chair) full authority to determine who has committed a felony or not. Suppose that same Secretary of State selects a company owned by a big Republican donor to create a list of those felons, but with no accountability for the accuracy of that list? Suppose, those names HAPPEN to be people not likely to vote for the Republican candidate?

Gee... Hmmm Could this ever happen?

Suppose in a Democratic area they have voting machines supplied by Soros which end up with more votes counted than cast.
This year, in Detroit which, amazingly enough Hillary carried with ease , though not enough to steal the state, do you see that as a problem?
This was documented by Reuters.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

I really can't believe you people are still arguing about this, as I explained it to you pages ago, you are all correct.