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ORIGINAL: BamaD
What do you mean by "fight back"?
You have already stated that you can discriminate against anyone who vote for Trump. Your support of this restaurant shows that.
Does it mean that you will always vote against him and oppose anything he wants because it must be evil?
Does it mean you will apply for Canadian citizenship and stay there?
Or does it mean that you see nothing wrong with somone shooting him (and maybe even anyone who supports him.

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

FR
We are all keyboard voices on an internet forum. There is no way to know that any of us are who our profiles say we are. Every single one of us knows that there are socks and trolls on this forum every day, yet no one is constantly calling them out for their profiles. Hell, half the people on these boards have profiles that are hidden. We going to start trashing them?

Any of you ever been stalked on the internet? I have. Any of you ever been outed and your work placed in jeopardy because of sites like this? I have.

Any of you have someone on this very site dig through your posts and dig through your profile trying to dig up dirt to use on you? I have.

God forbid someone try to keep their anonymity on a site that requires no verification of any information from poster of anything.


Whatever happened to deal with the content of a post, not the poster? At what point did the ability to mine someone's profile become an indicator of how legitimate someone was as a poster? If you get to the point that you have to go through and start picking out personal details about the poster to use in responses to that person, details that they have not freely offered up on their own, then maybe your own response needs some more thought.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
What do you mean by "fight back"?
You have already stated that you can discriminate against anyone who vote for Trump. Your support of this restaurant shows that.
Does it mean that you will always vote against him and oppose anything he wants because it must be evil?
Does it mean you will apply for Canadian citizenship and stay there?
Or does it mean that you see nothing wrong with somone shooting him (and maybe even anyone who supports him.

What is it with you and not being able to understand my positions on these issues? Are they too complex?

1. I don't support the restaurant's tactics, I understand them. It's not the same thing. I've already said twice that I don't think fighting discrimination with discrimination ever works, and on top of that I don't think every Trump supporter is a fascist. But I also don't think it's morally wrong to want to resist Trump or to fight back in any way one can.

2. I think Trump is a fascist, but the thing about having a parliamentary democracy is that you can have a fascist leader without developing into a fascist society. I don't think Trump or his terrifying cabinet is smart enough to actually wrest enough power away from congress to impose a fascist society upon America, but he is definitely the closest America has ever come to the possibility.

3. It's not that everything he wants is evil-- it's more that fascism should always be resisted to prevent it from gaining ground and becoming normalized. Are there benefits to living in a fascist society? Of course there are. But just because Nazi Germany had really good health care and a zero percent unemployment rate, it doesn't mean I would ever support Hitler. Obviously I have no idea what Trump intends to do, but the fact is that he has sold himself to the public as a fascist-- even if they don't realize that that's the best way to describe him. It's so odd how all of the phony RWNJ outrage over Obama somehow makes me question whether or not I have the right to be outraged over Trump... but practically everything I read about him, even on FOX, suggests that this isn't just partisan sour grapes... he really is a new type of leader who has tapped into a really scary aspect of the collective consciousness, and I can't see it going anywhere good.

Of course killing people isn't something that anyone should ever support, but if Trump were assassinated, then depending on the circumstances, I would probably be more relieved than anything. Of course if the assassin were Muslim, I would probably not be so relieved... because I'm afraid that it is actually possible for someone even worse than Trump to emerge, and if enough anger is stirred up, it could easily happen. The reaction to his assassination could be absolutely catastrophic, considering all of the paranoia going around on the right... but if it happened in such a way where Pence could calm everyone down and everyone came together, then yeah, I don't think I would feel too bad about it.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
I have no choice but to own everything I've already said on this forum, but I realized pretty quickly that this isn't the kind of place where it's a good idea to let everyone know too much about your personal life.

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Whatever happened to deal with the content of a post, not the poster? At what point did the ability to mine someone's profile become an indicator of how legitimate someone was as a poster? If you get to the point that you have to go through and start picking out personal details about the poster to use in responses to that person, details that they have not freely offered up on their own, then maybe your own response needs some more thought.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
If the murder of the president would lead to a felling of relief for you there is something really wrong with you, you want him to be murdered but you don't have the guts to say so.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I always thought heavy blinker was a sub male.
It's a she?

He has told us in this forum that he is a sub male.... and his profile always said sub male but he just changed it from sub male Canada to sub female Russia.

Always assumed by the demeanor it was a severely mentally ill woman

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
I always thought he was a smart but weak and pathetic sub male with a very severe anxiety problem.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
What do you mean by "fight back"?
You have already stated that you can discriminate against anyone who vote for Trump. Your support of this restaurant shows that.
Does it mean that you will always vote against him and oppose anything he wants because it must be evil?
Does it mean you will apply for Canadian citizenship and stay there?
Or does it mean that you see nothing wrong with somone shooting him (and maybe even anyone who supports him.

What is it with you and not being able to understand my positions on these issues? Are they too complex?

1. I don't support the restaurant's tactics, I understand them. It's not the same thing. I've already said twice that I don't think fighting discrimination with discrimination ever works, and on top of that I don't think every Trump supporter is a fascist. But I also don't think it's morally wrong to want to resist Trump or to fight back in any way one can.

2. I think Trump is a fascist, but the thing about having a parliamentary democracy is that you can have a fascist leader without developing into a fascist society. I don't think Trump or his terrifying cabinet is smart enough to actually wrest enough power away from congress to impose a fascist society upon America, but he is definitely the closest America has ever come to the possibility.

3. It's not that everything he wants is evil-- it's more that fascism should always be resisted to prevent it from gaining ground and becoming normalized. Are there benefits to living in a fascist society? Of course there are. But just because Nazi Germany had really good health care and a zero percent unemployment rate, it doesn't mean I would ever support Hitler. Obviously I have no idea what Trump intends to do, but the fact is that he has sold himself to the public as a fascist-- even if they don't realize that that's the best way to describe him. It's so odd how all of the phony RWNJ outrage over Obama somehow makes me question whether or not I have the right to be outraged over Trump... but practically everything I read about him, even on FOX, suggests that this isn't just partisan sour grapes... he really is a new type of leader who has tapped into a really scary aspect of the collective consciousness, and I can't see it going anywhere good.

Of course killing people isn't something that anyone should ever support, but if Trump were assassinated, then depending on the circumstances, I would probably be more relieved than anything. Of course if the assassin were Muslim, I would probably not be so relieved... because I'm afraid that it is actually possible for someone even worse than Trump to emerge, and if enough anger is stirred up, it could easily happen. The reaction to his assassination could be absolutely catastrophic, considering all of the paranoia going around on the right... but if it happened in such a way where Pence could calm everyone down and everyone came together, then yeah, I don't think I would feel too bad about it.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
What do you mean by "fight back"?
You have already stated that you can discriminate against anyone who vote for Trump. Your support of this restaurant shows that.
Does it mean that you will always vote against him and oppose anything he wants because it must be evil?
Does it mean you will apply for Canadian citizenship and stay there?
Or does it mean that you see nothing wrong with somone shooting him (and maybe even anyone who supports him.

What is it with you and not being able to understand my positions on these issues? Are they too complex?

1. I don't support the restaurant's tactics, I understand them. It's not the same thing. I've already said twice that I don't think fighting discrimination with discrimination ever works, and on top of that I don't think every Trump supporter is a fascist. But I also don't think it's morally wrong to want to resist Trump or to fight back in any way one can.

2. I think Trump is a fascist, but the thing about having a parliamentary democracy is that you can have a fascist leader without developing into a fascist society. I don't think Trump or his terrifying cabinet is smart enough to actually wrest enough power away from congress to impose a fascist society upon America, but he is definitely the closest America has ever come to the possibility.

3. It's not that everything he wants is evil-- it's more that fascism should always be resisted to prevent it from gaining ground and becoming normalized. Are there benefits to living in a fascist society? Of course there are. But just because Nazi Germany had really good health care and a zero percent unemployment rate, it doesn't mean I would ever support Hitler. Obviously I have no idea what Trump intends to do, but the fact is that he has sold himself to the public as a fascist-- even if they don't realize that that's the best way to describe him. It's so odd how all of the phony RWNJ outrage over Obama somehow makes me question whether or not I have the right to be outraged over Trump... but practically everything I read about him, even on FOX, suggests that this isn't just partisan sour grapes... he really is a new type of leader who has tapped into a really scary aspect of the collective consciousness, and I can't see it going anywhere good.

Of course killing people isn't something that anyone should ever support, but if Trump were assassinated, then depending on the circumstances, I would probably be more relieved than anything. Of course if the assassin were Muslim, I would probably not be so relieved... because I'm afraid that it is actually possible for someone even worse than Trump to emerge, and if enough anger is stirred up, it could easily happen. The reaction to his assassination could be absolutely catastrophic, considering all of the paranoia going around on the right... but if it happened in such a way where Pence could calm everyone down and everyone came together, then yeah, I don't think I would feel too bad about it.

Why would a Russian woman care if Trump is a fascist or not? Honey, you have Putin to worry about.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
If the murder of the president would lead to a felling of relief for you there is something really wrong with you, you want him to be murdered but you don't have the guts to say so.

I think there lies it. He is trying to be PC. Un-PC people like me, if I wanted someone dead. I just say it as it is, and don't spin around bullshit.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You don't think discriminating but if that is the only way they can fight him well that makes it "understandable".

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Trump is at least as far from being a fascist as Obama is from being a communist.

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If he is a fascist and evil or he isn't. Besides don't you think that opposing every increase in government "taking care of people " is simple paranoia, you display more paranoia toward Trump than over 90% of non leftists on here.

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On no you are a good person who would never advocate murder. Of course if someone not part of one of your favored groups did it you would be so relieved. Check the books of Acts, you wouldn't harm anyone, you , like Saul would only hold the coats while other people do. You aren't planing to go to Damascus are you.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You don't think discriminating but if that is the only way they can fight him well that makes it "understandable".

It is obviously discrimination, I don't support it, and I understand it in the same way I understand it when people get upset about other things. I've tried to explain this 3 times already, and even got into a similar argument on another thread.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Trump is at least as far from being a fascist as Obama is from being a communist.

Not true.

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If he is a fascist and evil or he isn't. Besides don't you think that opposing every increase in government "taking care of people " is simple paranoia, you display more paranoia toward Trump than over 90% of non leftists on here.

I THINK he is a fascist, but I don't know for sure, because he has no political experience. But he definitely acts like one, and he sold himself to the public as one as well. I don't oppose every increase in government 'taking care of the people', I may or may not oppose the MANNER in which the government 'takes care of the people'. Fascism isn't just about the size of the government.

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On no you are a good person who would never advocate murder. Of course if someone not part of one of your favored groups did it you would be so relieved. Check the books of Acts, you wouldn't harm anyone, you , like Saul would only hold the coats while other people do. You aren't planing to go to Damascus are you.

Have you ever supported a war? Do you think that we shouldn't kill anyone who belongs to ISIS? If someone had killed Hitler before he took power, would that have been a bad thing?

Don't be so obtuse.