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Oh, I dunno, maybe because it's actually a fucking terrorist attack which the idiot Leftists here keep trying to pretend is somehow unrelated to Islam.

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Sort of a Gott mit Uns, or a God and country, or a in God we trust, sort of thing, then.

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That's disingenuous. While the phrase has use in multiple contexts, when it's used by a gunman pumping bullets into innocent civilians it's effectively a claim that what he's doing has the seal of approval from God himself.

So, yeah. When a gunman uses that phrase, you can be pretty sure it's an Islamic terrorist attack.

Islamic, but not necessarily Islamist.

"Islamism, also known as Political Islam (Arabic: إسلام سياسي‎‎ islām siyāsī), is an Islamic revival movement often characterized by moral conservatism, and the attempt "to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life."[1"

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That wouldn't describe the PKK. Though, as I said, the PKK doesn't ordinarily attack civilians.

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Oh, I dunno, maybe because it's actually a fucking terrorist attack which the idiot Leftists here keep trying to pretend is somehow unrelated to Islam.

Disingenuous. You're conflating 'Islamic' with 'Islamist'. The first refers to anything Muslim. Nobody has claimed that the attacker was not Muslim.

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I have claimed that the attacker might not have been Islamist - but a Marxist-Leniinist atheist. (But as it turns out, probably not.) Why would a Leftist such as I want to claim that this terrorist attack was done by a Leftist?

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That wouldn't describe the PKK. Though, as I said, the PKK doesn't ordinarily attack civilians.

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Not true. http://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2016/05/20/pkk-terrorists-long-history-of-attacking-civilians-a-grim-timeline

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*facepalm* Sometimes I wonder what happened to your brains.

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Peon, this is childishly easy to disassemble. The reason is simple. You'd like to reinterpret this attack as a regrettable but understandable part of the Kurdish struggle for independence. It's a classic part of the socialist paradigm. Every armed group fighting government forces is an underdog fighting for freedom from oppressive regimes.

You'd rather indict a group of what you'd call "freedom fighters" than admit the Islamic religion has a problem with violence and murder. Because Islam is an ally in the fight against white, Christian, male, capitalist hegemony.

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So, what does "Allahu Akbar" mean in Arabic again. "I am a Kurdf"? "Happy New year"? Perhaps "Alt leftists are idiots"?

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The gunman is seen casually strolling into the nightclub holding the weapon before carrying out the killing spree while reportedly shouting 'Allahu Akbar'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4079942/Pictured-Female-security-guard-27-gunned-Istanbul-New-Year-terror-attack-nightclub.html#ixzz4UYXT7bLU

Didn't you see the post I did before on this?

"John Burgess, Former US Foreign Service Officer who's been around the block (and the world) a few times.
Written Jan 12, 2015
Originally Answered: Why do many fighters in the Middle East say "Allahu Akbar" so very often?
Muslim Arabs say "Allahu Akbar" all the time, not just in military operations. They say it when anything good happens, along with phrases like Alhamdulillah, to show that they credit God with good things.

Sometimes, the phrase is actually religious in intent; sometimes, it's just the rote response to something happening.
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Ali Qassim
Ali Qassim, M.D. with a passion for knowledge
Written Jun 30, 2012
To understand this phenomenon you have to know a little about Islam and Muslims. Muslims have a deep faith in predestination. They believe that god wills everything, and nothing occurs without the will of god. For example, Muslims constantly say Inshallah, which are actually two words: insha'a, which means 'if he wills', and Allah, when asked or ordered to do something. Even myself, being an atheist, have grown accustomed to using this term when asked a question or told to do something.

A central tennet of Islam is the "kun fa yakoon". This is actually a part of the Quran, specifically, Surat Yaseen. What this statement means is: kun, which means in a commanding sense 'occur!' and fa yakun, which means 'and it occurs'. You will occasionally hear this. For example, I might tell a fellow Muslim, "Fellow Muslim, how did Allah create the universe?" And his answer might simply be "kun fa yakoon". This demonstrates the intensity of Gods involvement in everything in the Islamic religion.

So, taking all that in, when Muslims scream 'Allahu akbar' (which means Allah the greatest, or Allah is great) they are reaffirming whatever is happening in accordance to Allah's will. When mourning, Allahu Akbar would signify God's predestination of this persons death. When about to go to war, Allahu Akbar would signify that the results occur according to Gods will, and God is with you thus whatever happens, you are righteous and will be rewarded accordingly, if not in this life, then the next. Before an exam, a Muslim may say Allahu akbar (or Bism illah which means in the name of Allah) and this would imply that 'I studied, I worked hard. I will score well if Allah wills, and if I don't then it is not for me to argue for Allah most likely has a plan'.

In this light, it is easy to see how Muslims use that phrase in many occasions, including war, exams, prior to opening a business, when the elevator gets stuck, during a natural disaster, when killing an 'infidel', etc...

It is reassurance that whatever happens, happens for a reason far greater than we might know."

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Muslims-repeat-the-phrase-allahu-akbar-God-is-great-in-many-contexts-from-weddings-to-battle-jubilation-to-shock-and-tragedy

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know there were so many reasons to say that. Very interesting indeed. Now perhaps you can tell us what they meant when they said "The IS-linked Aamaq News Agency said the attack was carried by a "heroic soldier of the caliphate who attacked the most famous nightclub where Christians were celebrating their pagan feast.""

https://www.yahoo.com/news/reports-believed-behind-istanbul-nightclub-attack-071349545.html

Oh, I dunno, maybe because it's actually a fucking terrorist attack which the idiot Leftists here keep trying to pretend is somehow unrelated to Islam.

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and after you finish explain that, perhaps you could explain why no one is screaming for Turkey to tighten up it's gun laws like they do everytime there is a shooting in the states.

Turkey is actually a fairly modern parliamentary republic which, up until recently, has been pretty damn secular despite its majority Islam population. However when it comes to gun control, Turkey is already ahead of the US on that score. Fully and semi-automatic weapons are prohibited, background checks are mandatory and you must have a genuine reason for wanting a firearm license.

Turkey has a population of around 75 million, roughly 1/4 of that of the US. Despite that, their total gun deaths are 1/15th of those in the US with approximately 1800 deaths in 2013.

So, in answer to your question, the reason nobody screams for tighter gun control in Turkey is because they already have it and it's already working. Really, people - a little research would go a long way.

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And yet they still have 35 people shot in one attack. Turkey has a lower murder rate than the US? It doesn't work unless it lowers the total murder rate, not just the firearm related murder rate?

I just looked up the stats, the US has a murder rate of 3.9, Turkey has one of 4.3 so I guess it isn't working out so well is it?

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And yet they still have 35 people shot in one attack. Turkey has a lower murder rate than the US? It doesn't work unless it lowers the total murder rate, not just the firearm related murder rate?

I just looked up the stats, the US has a murder rate of 3.9, Turkey has one of 4.3 so I guess it isn't working out so well is it?

Places like that, they don't necessarily keep real good stats like we do

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-shooting-idUSKBN14L13V

Brazil lost 11 on NY...
Christian country Brazil
Has a murder rate in 2014 oh 24.6

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-shooting-idUSKBN14L13V

Brazil lost 11 on NY...
Christian country Brazil
Has a murder rate in 2014 oh 24.6

More proof that we need to enforce our Southern border again, finally

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-shooting-idUSKBN14L13V

Brazil lost 11 on NY...
Christian country Brazil
Has a murder rate in 2014 oh 24.6

More proof that we need to enforce our Southern border again, finally

I noticed, when checked on the Turkish murder rate, that the murder rate for the Americas is a little over 16 4 time the US rate with at least as tight gun controls as anyone. I do not think gun control has worked there.
To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-shooting-idUSKBN14L13V

Brazil lost 11 on NY...
Christian country Brazil
Has a murder rate in 2014 oh 24.6

More proof that we need to enforce our Southern border again, finally

I noticed, when checked on the Turkish murder rate, that the murder rate for the Americas is a little over 16 4 time the US rate with at least as tight gun controls as anyone. I do not think gun control has worked there.
To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Do you think spastic is racist, for pointing out that a non-white country is so extremely violent though

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Your contention is that muslims, non white nonchristians oh and atheists of every colour,and anyone left of george bush are against you.
How do you get thru your day?

Ahhhhhh must be waiting for the rapture.....
Lotsa crazies wait for that....apparently.

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Drooling numpty claims innocence....Insanity becomes him.
Considering the spastic comment, hilarious..

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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.