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Musicmystery -> RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? (1/6/2017 6:47:43 AM)
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
just a quick note to both go off in a different direction, and to probably state something I suspect you and others will agree with.
yes I know there is a theistic view of evolution. to a very large extent, I find it unfortunate and view it mostly as an attempt to mollify the vehement evolutionary ranters both personally and sociologically. I know in terms of believers, this view is most common amongst catholics. its been heavily criticized by the more "pure" creationist side and I remember when I was reading about it all, siding with those criticisms.
as far as evolution goes, given how amazingly paltry the evidence is, to call it a "solid theory" is absurd. worse, to treat it as "fact" is academically criminal. belief in it requires more faith than does the belief we were created by god.
heres what I wrote last time it came up and it bears repeating:
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great---please start a thread on evolution that provides ALL the incontrovertible evidence of one species transitioning to another species. how many different species are there? evidence must be in abundance for each transition right?
and also while youre at it; just where are all those transitional creatures today?
as a sub component to this, im curious as to how mutations (presumably your argument for transitions), which are overwhelmingly harmful in the natural world, somehow in the case of evolution confer an advantage to the species such that, for instance, when this particular specimen mated with another specimen, that genetic mutation was inherited in the offspring, and then what---after millions of years an eye appears?
if those things are not forthcoming, then it seems to me the choice is between continuing to "believe" despite the lack of evidence or looking elsewhere for the explanations.
and jesus was a creationist.
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So, this bullshit that Christians don't accept the findings of science is ridiculous, but what can one expect when so much rhetoric that comes from the left is beyond ridiculous?
totally agree...
First, a "theory" in science isn't a guess -- it's a repeated, repeated testing of observation/data that works and can be used to predict. In this case, THAT evolution has happened is very clear from the fossil record alone. So it's not "just a theory," whatever opinion someone wants to arbitrarily hold.
HOW it happens is indeed more complicated, and punctuated equilibrium, which has been observed in pepper moths and galapagos finches, for example, has gained favor over the mutation hypothesis. It's two different points in science, one that gets conflated to pretend to undermine the other to shore up opinions vs. what the data show.
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