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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 8:03:39 AM

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Oh, I see, it's okay to point at men as a group and rant on about how evil we are in every possibe way. That's what feminism is about.

But how fucking dare men point out women or lesbians as a group and discuss that they are no better.

Gotta larf at the pathetic hypocrites.

Oh but wait, the dictionary says feminism is about equality. Reality, actions speak louder than words. What feminists do is what feminism is.

You really are an incredible moron.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 8:22:24 AM

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 11:39:03 AM

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Lesbian Relationships have a domestic violence rate of 43%, vs 22% of the general population and 21% of gay relationships.
http://www.glhv.org.au/files/domvio_gl_rel.pdf

https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/intimate-partner-violence-lgbtiq-communities

There is a lot of discussion in the links provided about the difficulty in obtaining data: self-selecting respondents, size of samples, etc. And no raw numbers, only percentages. You published the highest percentage in one link (43) and ignored the lowest in another (17) The disparity is enough to invalidate the results you claim with such smug certainty. There is a further problem with the numbers: how can we know the percentages when we have no clue as to the population size of lesbians in australia?

Further, there are methodological issues with existing studies. For example, most studies use convenience samples, raising questions about how representative the figures are (Tayton et al 2014; Calton et al., 2015; Edwards, Sylaska, & Neal, et al 2015; Tayton et al., 2014). As Edwards and colleagues (2015) highlighted, discrepancies in how intimate partner violence is defined; whether studies assess lifetime violence/current relationship/previous year; and whether measurement scales were used or not, mean there are often large inconsistencies between studies.

Sadly, you are a flawed and petulant male-child.

These studies are done like most studies, just like feminist studies. Its all the sudden validated when feminists do it of course.

This never claimed all lesbians in australia, if you even had half a brain, you would realise that every study that exist doesn't represent a whole gender or a whole demographic of lesbians. It simply represnts the people involved in the study.

The fact of the matter is that females are just as every bit violent as men. But gynocentric little suck up boys don't want to admit and acknowledge that fact.

Oh Jesus Christ on a bicycle!! If a study does not represent a population the study is a worthless pos. And the Title of your thread is worthless for its implied universality.

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But how fucking dare men point out women or lesbians as a group and discuss that they are no better.

Erm, no. Fail. You can't have it both ways. You can't say the studies refer only to the participants on the one hand and then on the other say you are pointing out what they do as a group. Contradiction.

I think Tweak is spot on, you have a Lesbian fixation. You might try counseling for relief from your obsessions.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 1:11:34 PM

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Oh Jesus Christ on a bicycle!! If a study does not represent a population the study is a worthless pos. And the Title of your thread is worthless for its implied universality.

How many feminist studies represent a whole demographic of a group? Does any study of such nature represent a whole demographic? Where are they?

Can you see how ridiculously stupid your argument is? You are pretty much attacking a study for it being like every other study. It would be nearly impossible to get an answer from every single lesbian living in Australia, unless there was huge amounts of funding to make it happen.

So why is it that you don't care when any other study doesn't represent a whole demographic when it suits your leftists/feminist agenda?

What a stupid hypocritical assclown.

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Erm, no. Fail. You can't have it both ways. You can't say the studies refer only to the participants on the one hand and then on the other say you are pointing out what they do as a group. Contradiction.

Erm, no. you misinterpreted what I said due to your stupidity. I clearly explained the nature of studies above. Every study points at a certain group which can be a gender, someone's sexuality, etc etc. Any study that does can only represent the people involved in the study, not every single person in that society.

It's all okay when feminists do it towards men, just how dare anyone do it towards women.

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I think Tweak is spot on, you have a Lesbian fixation. You might try counseling for relief from your obsessions.

Oh, okay. So that must mean when feminists direct any negative study against men, such as DV, rape, they have a male fixation? They need counseling for relief of their obsessions?

No, you want double standards, just like every other gynocentric hypocrite.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 1:45:35 PM

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Again: why are you treating the terms "lesbian" and "feminist" as synonyms?

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 1:58:36 PM

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iTT: People that don't understand how subsets of a population are used to derive statistical data about the measured group.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 2:51:34 PM

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Again: why are you treating the terms "lesbian" and "feminist" as synonyms?

Why are you claiming I own a stance that I never made?

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 3:55:50 PM

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Oh, I see, it's okay to point at men as a group and rant on about how evil we are in every possibe way. That's what feminism is about.
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If there is any pointing at, it is - at best - at the self-appointed wannabe creator of the best of civilisations. No collective, but some twisted individual.

It would be a serious insult to say that men as a group are like you. You are unique.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 4:45:37 PM

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It would be a serious insult to say that men as a group are like you.

Can you cite me where feminists show any appreciation for men and/or say anything good about men or patriarchy? Feminist literature anywhere?

I won't be holding my breath, gotta larf. If there is any such thing, it's going to be a rare case. Like, 1 out of a million.

If feminists only talk trash about men instead of saying anything good about men, it can easily be assumed that they represent these men as "all men". Just like how plenty of feminists assume all men are potential rapists.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 4:49:36 PM

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If there is any pointing at, it is - at best - at the self-appointed wannabe creator of the best of civilisations. No collective, but some twisted individual.

It's funny how you keep talking this rubbish when you have most probably done sweet fuck all for society. I have never claimed that I am related to any of the men who have made the best inventions and put in the hardest work to build society. It just sickens me how all the good men do hardly gets appreciated and talked about as the conversation about men is usually about how fucking evil we are.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/9/2017 6:42:22 PM

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That conversation is mainly in your head.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 4:20:47 AM

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... It just sickens me how all the good men do hardly gets appreciated and talked about as the conversation about men is usually about how fucking evil we are.

Oh the "good men" and their achievements get talked about for sure. You don't notice because you do not care and your focus is on other things.

Your "we" does not deserve any comment. It is you only - despite all your claims in past and present - who shows symptoms of some real personality problems.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 4:54:06 AM

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... It just sickens me how all the good men do hardly gets appreciated and talked about as the conversation about men is usually about how fucking evil we are.

Oh the "good men" and their achievements get talked about for sure. You don't notice because you do not care and your focus is on other things.

Your "we" does not deserve any comment. It is you only - despite all your claims in past and present - who shows symptoms of some real personality problems.

As you failed to cite my question earlier on, it's telling us that my assertion is correct. You seem to have a problem with proving me wrong. Oh I wonder why?

Bitching about men is what feminism is basically all about. just how dare men bitch about women. Gotta larf

You're claiming I have personality problems for what exactly? Because I stick up for my own gender? Something that women seem oh so entitled to?

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 4:56:48 AM

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A feminist is never a whiner, crybaby, someone with personality problems.

You just can't fix a deeply stupid shameless hypocrite.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 6:13:49 AM

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Again: why are you treating the terms "lesbian" and "feminist" as synonyms?

Why are you claiming I own a stance that I never made?

Why are you insisting that the domestic violence rate in lesbian couples is a repudiation for the whole of feminism?

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 6:14:51 AM

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As you failed to cite my question earlier on, it's telling us ...

(no failure at all) I cite those parts of your messages that might offer some path for comments and discussion (or insight). Liberties you take yourself, although I for my part would not manipulate the messages of others like you did before.
Only shortening for what is worthy or descriptive of your posts.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 6:26:35 AM

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You just can't fix a deeply stupid shameless hypocrite.

Evidently. You wouldn't still be posting histrionic drivel all the time if there was a fix for that problem.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 7:06:36 AM

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iTT: People that don't understand how subsets of a population are used to derive statistical data about the measured group.

We understand. The survey groups at issue were not normalized to the larger lesbian population because the participants were self selected, among other problems. You need at least proximate representation.

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 7:12:39 AM

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RE: The domestic violence rate in lesbian relationships - 1/10/2017 7:25:12 AM

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How many feminist studies represent a whole demographic of a group? Does any study of such nature represent a whole demographic? Where are they?

The studies you linked were faulted for not representing the larger demographic. The methodology is questioned. You can't take any number of lesbian women and claim they are a representative sample without considering other demographics of the life experience of the members of the larger group: age, education level, economic status, length of relationship, type of relationship, profession or employment status, etc. A study is not representative merely because it is published.

Furthermore, the disparity in reported results question the validity of the studies.

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