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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 1/16/2017 5:54:44 PM   
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Weren't you whining about changing goal posts?

The topic is free speech. If you want to whine about Maher and Muslims, start a thread.


What a big baby you have become.

Free speech. It's the topic.

You want a different topic, start a thread.

You want to whine about babies saying stay on topic after whining about moving goal posts while trying to move them yourself, start a thread.

Busted. Flat and simple. You got busted for bull.

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 1/29/2017 6:49:35 AM   
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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 1/29/2017 8:51:55 AM   
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I suppose I should apologize?



He's asking you to try to stay on topic, not demanding a miracle.


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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/1/2017 9:48:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bill Maher is a bigot, but free speech is free speech. He might make a pretty good canary for the trip with President Trump now under way

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/1/2017 9:56:00 PM   
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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/1/2017 10:07:16 PM   
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I don't know ... are we calling the White House, targeting members of the press (I'm elevating Mr. Maher, here) a threat to free speech, here?

I think we could ask James Rosen about that.

Or Dinesh D'Souza.

Just a couple of examples off the top of my head.

If those are the standards, I disagree with them, but I think this is another case of dog-whistling ... ginning up the base; signalling them to another front line in the fight.

While President Trump has absolutely shown a disdain for certain press outlets, that's just him, exercising his free speech. I think Obummer did the same, every time he opened that sewer under his nose about Fox News and "right-wing talk radio", but he also did some things that were a bit "icky" and constitutionally questionable (see the above examples). Of course, the fourth estate didn't raise too much concern over that. He was, after all, the anointed one.

Fuck Maher. He's a jerk-off that admired the "bravery" of the 9/11 scumbags. Maybe he'll get 72 virgins, too (I hope they're all male).



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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/2/2017 5:13:56 AM   
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Fuck Maher. He's a jerk-off that admired the "bravery" of the 9/11 scumbags. Maybe he'll get 72 virgins, too (I hope they're all male).

Actually no: he just pointed out that a coward was more likely to meekly crash an aircraft into a building because they were threatened with a bolt cutter, than try to take over an aircraft where they were outnumbered by crew and passengers when he got a bit fed up of all the blathering about cowardly terrorists.

(And I wouldn't fuck him with yours, thank you.)

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/2/2017 5:37:38 AM   
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You're right, of course. Here's the actually quote:

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“We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from two miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane, while it hits the building … say what you want about it … not cowardly.”



So ... Americans = cowardly. murdering Islamic scumbags, carrying out a sneak attack = not cowardly ... said very shortly after almost 3,000 Americans were killed, just in one location. Typical leftist, American-hating piece of shit.

I definitely sit (no one stands to type) corrected, but I repeat: I hope the scumbag gets 72 (male) virgins, when his time comes.



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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/2/2017 5:59:26 AM   
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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/2/2017 6:08:42 AM   
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You're right, of course. Here's the actually quote:

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“We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from two miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane, while it hits the building … say what you want about it … not cowardly.”



So ... Americans = cowardly. murdering Islamic scumbags, carrying out a sneak attack = not cowardly ... said very shortly after almost 3,000 Americans were killed, just in one location. Typical leftist, American-hating piece of shit.

I definitely sit (no one stands to type) corrected, but I repeat: I hope the scumbag gets 72 (male) virgins, when his time comes.



Michael


Muslims are told from birth that after they suicide they get a fantastic reward from their bloodthirsty Satanic ruler. Where they go, their perfect slave meat with the perfect tits and eyes that never look at you never has to piss or shit, so they never have to stop raping them ever. So... I don't think you could call what they do "bravery"

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/2/2017 9:03:53 AM   
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You're right, of course. Here's the actually quote:

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ORIGINAL: "Scumbag" Bill Maher

“We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from two miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane, while it hits the building … say what you want about it … not cowardly.”



So ... Americans = cowardly. murdering Islamic scumbags, carrying out a sneak attack = not cowardly ... said very shortly after almost 3,000 Americans were killed, just in one location. Typical leftist, American-hating piece of shit.

I definitely sit (no one stands to type) corrected, but I repeat: I hope the scumbag gets 72 (male) virgins, when his time comes.



Michael


Muslims are told from birth that after they suicide they get a fantastic reward from their bloodthirsty Satanic ruler. Where they go, their perfect slave meat with the perfect tits and eyes that never look at you never has to piss or shit, so they never have to stop raping them ever. So... I don't think you could call what they do "bravery"

Why not?
Maher's point (provided by DS above) is that whatever else can be said about suicide bombers, they're not cowards. They may be mentally ill, they may have misinterpreted the quran (mistaking sherbet for virgins, for a start), but they didn't shy from killing themselves in the course of their attack, and stes of two or three of them took over each airliner with improvised weaponry, while outnumbered by the crew and passengers. I think Maher's point stands, particularly as the one plane where there was an uprising among the against the terrorists in 2001 didn't reach it's target.

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 5:52:05 AM   
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The comment is more alt left empty-headed nonsense, as there are no court cases re free speech in President Trumps history


There are no Supreme Court cases in President Trumps history because he's only been in office for a month and it takes longer than that to get a case to the Supreme Court. Talk about "empty-headed nonsense".

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 6:37:52 AM   
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If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view - NO FEDERAL FUNDS?


Do those seem like the words of an enemy of expression?

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 11:11:29 AM   
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I think the president's tweet regarding free speech is pretty clear:

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If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view - NO FEDERAL FUNDS?


Do those seem like the words of an enemy of expression?
Well, "an enemy of expression" seldom wants his own expression curtailed and will often extol the virtues of “free speech” while at the same time acting in ways that will stifle the same “free speech” of others.

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 11:19:55 AM   
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I think the president's tweet regarding free speech is pretty clear:

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If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view - NO FEDERAL FUNDS?


Do those seem like the words of an enemy of expression?
Well, "an enemy of expression" seldom wants his own expression curtailed and will often extol the virtues of “free speech” while at the same time acting in ways that will stifle the same “free speech” of others.


For a great example of that any of you alt left goons can just look in any handy mirror

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 6:51:48 PM   
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Do those seem like the words of an enemy of expression?
Well, "an enemy of expression" seldom wants his own expression curtailed and will often extol the virtues of “free speech” while at the same time acting in ways that will stifle the same “free speech” of others.


Trump has said some disobliging things about certain media outlets, and has opined that the "intentional malice" requirement in American libel law sets an onerous, if not impossible standard of proof. Are these what you're referring to?

Those don't strike me as particularly stifling.

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 7:45:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maher is also concerned that Liberals are shutting down free speech, and I certainly see them doing it a whole lot more than Trump or his supporters. Trump is just a horse's ass, however "progressives" actually are aggressive about shutting down speech they do not agree with, and have been doing it since before the current train wreck we elected was in office.

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 8:39:36 PM   
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Well, "an enemy of expression" seldom wants his own expression curtailed and will often extol the virtues of “free speech” while at the same time acting in ways that will stifle the same “free speech” of others.

For a great example of that any of you alt left goons can just look in any handy mirror
Thanx for your excellent example of "acting in ways that try to stifle the “free speech” of others"
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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 8:48:25 PM   
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Do those seem like the words of an enemy of expression?
Well, "an enemy of expression" seldom wants his own expression curtailed and will often extol the virtues of “free speech” while at the same time acting in ways that will stifle the same “free speech” of others.


Trump has said some disobliging things about certain media outlets, and has opined that the "intentional malice" requirement in American libel law sets an onerous, if not impossible standard of proof. Are these what you're referring to?

Those don't strike me as particularly stifling.
An intelligent attack on free speech, not to say I think Trump is particularly intelligent, would not start by shutting down the media but by casting aspersions on the media's credibility so when the media is shut down it would seem justified.

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RE: Bill Maher concerned Trump will harm free speech - 2/5/2017 9:06:45 PM   
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Maher is also concerned that Liberals are shutting down free speech, and I certainly see them doing it a whole lot more than Trump or his supporters. Trump is just a horse's ass, however "progressives" actually are aggressive about shutting down speech they do not agree with, and have been doing it since before the current train wreck we elected was in office.
As I have pointed out several times I have no party affiliations and I am not particularly fond of attacks on free speech from any quarter, no matter how feeble.

That said, I don't believe that "free speech" means that you can say anything you want anytime you want.

Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is not free speech.

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