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A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 5:04:45 AM   
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ive posted stuff like this before, usually to the chagrin and tirade of the comrades, but its worth posting again.

we fight for a variety a reasons, not the least of which is, our basic premises are not the same and we value different things. given the differences, you can see how difficult it might be to get along.

this doesn't mean I still don't think liberalism (as practiced by todays "loving" totalitarian collectivists) isn't a mental disorder, or that I still don't want them all to move to cuba or Sweden, but the following things are helpful in seeking understanding:

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Source of Human Rights

Left: government
Right: the Creator

Human Nature

Left: basically good (Therefore, society is primarily responsible for evil.)
Right: not basically good (Therefore, the individual is primarily responsible for evil.)

Economic Goal

Left: equality
Right: prosperity

Primary Role of the State

Left: increase and protect equality
Right: increase and protect liberty

Government

Left: as large as possible
Right: as small as possible

Family Ideal

Left: any loving unit of people
Right: a married father and mother, and children

Guiding Trinity

Left: race, gender and class
Right: liberty, In God We Trust and e pluribus unum

Good and Evil

Left: relative to individual and/or society
Right: based on universal absolutes

Humanity's Primary Division(s)

Left: rich and poor; strong and weak
Right: good and evil

Ideal Primary Identity of an American

Left: world citizen
Right: American citizen

How to Make a Good Society

Left: abolish inequality
Right: develop each citizen's moral character

View of America

Left: profoundly morally flawed; inferior to any number of European countries
Right: greatest force for good among nations in world history

Gender

Left: a social construct
Right: male and female

Most Important Trait to Cultivate in a Child

Left: self-esteem
Right: self-control

Worth of the Human Fetus

Left: determined by the mother
Right: determined by society rooted in Judeo-Christian values

Primary Source of Crime

Left: poverty, racism and other societal flaws
Right: the criminal's malfunctioning conscience

Place of God and Religion in America

Left: secular government and secular society
Right: secular government and religious society

American Exceptionalism

Left: chauvinistic doctrine
Right: historical reality

Greatest Threat to the World

Left: environmental catastrophe (currently global warming)
Right: evil (currently radical Islamist violence)

International Ideal

Left: world governed by the United Nations, and no single country is dominant
Right: world in which America is the single strongest entity

Primary Reason for Lack of Peace in Middle East

Left: Israeli settlements in the West Bank
Right: Palestinian, Arab and Muslim denial of Jewish state's right to exist

Purpose of Art

Left: challenge status quo and bourgeois sensibilities
Right: produce works of beauty and profundity to elevate the individual and society

Guns

Left: ideally universally abolished, except for use by police, the armed forces and registered sportsmen
Right: ideally widely owned by responsible individuals for self-protection and the protection of others

Race

Left: intrinsically significant
Right: intrinsically insignificant

Racial, Ethnic and Gender Diversity at Universities
Left: most important
Right: far less important than ideological diversity

Black America's Primary Problem

Left: racism
Right: lack of fathers

Greatest Playwright

Left: entirely subjective; there is no greatest playwright
Right: Shakespeare

War

Left: not the answer
Right: sometimes the only answer

Hate

Left: wrong, except when directed at the political
Right: wrong, except when directed at evil

Cultures

Left: all equal
Right: some are better than others

America's Founding Fathers

Left: rich white male slave owners
Right: great men who founded the greatest society

Purpose of Judges

Left: pursue social justice
Right: pursue justice

National Borders

Left: a relic of the past
Right: indispensable for national survival

View of Illegal Immigrants

Left: welcomed guests
Right: illegal immigrants

Nature

Left: intrinsically valuable
Right: made for man


http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2017/01/17/a-guide-to-basic-differences-between-left-and-right-n2271475



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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 5:16:34 AM   
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That factless felchgobbling is typical of your retardation.

Left: one man, one vote
nutsuckers: gerrymander districts and suppress votes so that nutsuckers can win, and destroy america.

Left:good government by and for and of the people.
nutsuckers: Destroy america and put everything into military spending, and corporate welfare, and claim they want small government while every nutsucker in the world is trying to get in it.

Left: freedom
nutsuckers: impose a bullshit morals clause on the nation, and run the government under the nutsucker brand of sharia law.

Those are just a few of your many mistakes, and lying simpleheaded asswipe while your brainless mouth is so full of shit.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 5:23:45 AM   
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hehe whats scary is the nutsuckers actually believe that

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 5:32:42 AM   
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Which proves, merely, that you know nothing of the left except the straw man you've constructed in your own mind and chose to believe instead of reality.


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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 7:21:30 AM   
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I believe you are just pointing out the differences in a small minority of America... the vast majority are somewhere in the middle and look to you as fanatics. The right wing platform as manifested today is not supported by the majority...As the far left is not supported either. Your voices are the loudest and looked upon as entertainment by the media and disgust by most everyone else. This is proven by the constant shifting of party dominance. This election has not given the Rebublican party a mandate and they will be held responsible in the next election cycle.

You are wrong to believe the country is moving to the right... they are dead in the middle without choices to represent their views and are just voting for the best of poor choices from the current political parties.

Butch

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 8:07:34 AM   
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Most can be reduced to a single line which is ... not worth commenting from the outside:
"American exceptionalism"

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 8:22:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

Source of Human Rights

Left: government
Right: the Creator



Ayn Rand was a leftist?

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 8:30:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph

Most can be reduced to a single line which is ... not worth commenting from the outside:
"American exceptionalism"


Without American exceptionalism wouldn't you still be Nazis, or perhaps Stalinists

Imagine what the world would look like had leftist Nazis and Stalinist etc always gotten their way

The first alt leftists

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 8:32:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph

Most can be reduced to a single line which is ... not worth commenting from the outside:
"American exceptionalism"


Without American exceptionalism wouldn't you still be Nazis, or perhaps Stalinists

Imagine what the world would look like had leftist Nazis and Stalinist etc always gotten their way

The first alt leftists

The first extreme rightists to be labelled as leftists by idiots on the right trying to distance themselves from their ideological brethren?
Quite possibly.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 9:03:38 AM   
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If all left-wingers wanted a big government then why does the Green Party emphasize decentralization? What about the anarcho-communists? What about the classless, stateless society???

How about instead of trusting biased right-wing sources for your perspectives you go to the party websites, read their policies, and stop being so lazy? Or better yet, stop trying to label and generalize everything and think of people as individuals who are actually capable of forming their own coherent belief systems and don't exist merely to agree with whatever one of the two mainstream parties wants?

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 9:15:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

If all left-wingers wanted a big government then why does the Green Party emphasize decentralization? What about the anarcho-communists? What about the classless, stateless society???

How about instead of trusting biased right-wing sources for your perspectives you go to the party websites, read their policies, and stop being so lazy? Or better yet, stop trying to label and generalize everything and think of people as individuals who are actually capable of forming their own coherent belief systems and don't exist merely to agree with whatever one of the two mainstream parties wants?


Give me one example of Democrats working to shrink the size of the government

I have always said that the Greens need to splinter off and form another party - right along with the Feminazis, the socialists, the communists, the LGBTs, the black panther racists, and the Mexican racists (La Raza) etc etc etc.

Rather than gather under the "Massive Government / Hate White Men" party umbrella


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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 9:18:05 AM   
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The left: Take care of women before men. Take care of anyone who isn't white before whites. Take care of muslims before any other religion.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 9:23:48 AM   
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Will it seems that when it comes to spending of our tax money Clinton and Obama were the most frugal since Eisenhower....HERE I call that shrinking government...what say you?

Butch

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 9:34:18 AM   
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It would be great if the tax money that is spent on foreign aid was supplied to the systems in western societies such as health and homelessness. The people in the said society should come first over anyone another country away. The left don't seem to understand that.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 9:34:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: respectmen

The left: Take care of women before men. Take care of anyone who isn't white before whites. Take care of muslims before any other religion.

The nutsuckers: factlessly felchgobble, and shit their pants.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 9:35:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

If all left-wingers wanted a big government then why does the Green Party emphasize decentralization? What about the anarcho-communists? What about the classless, stateless society???

How about instead of trusting biased right-wing sources for your perspectives you go to the party websites, read their policies, and stop being so lazy? Or better yet, stop trying to label and generalize everything and think of people as individuals who are actually capable of forming their own coherent belief systems and don't exist merely to agree with whatever one of the two mainstream parties wants?


Give me one example of Democrats working to shrink the size of the government

I have always said that the Greens need to splinter off and form another party - right along with the Feminazis, the socialists, the communists, the LGBTs, the black panther racists, and the Mexican racists (La Raza) etc etc etc.

Rather than gather under the "Massive Government / Hate White Men" party umbrella


Give me one example of nutsuckers shrinking the size of government. You can't. And the left doesn't have much to do with you nutsucker communists and your racist KKK, religion nazis, and other shitbreathing you are wont to do.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 9:44:19 AM   
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quote:

It would be great if the tax money that is spent on foreign aid was supplied to the systems in western societies such as health and homelessness. The people in the said society should come first over anyone another country away. The left don't seem to understand that.


Yea right. You righties cannot figure it out either.


I think less than 1 percent of our budget is not too much to help our fellow man. If that money were spent at home you would complain about welfare.


Butch

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 10:17:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Will it seems that when it comes to spending of our tax money Clinton and Obama were the most frugal since Eisenhower....HERE I call that shrinking government...what say you?

Butch


How can that be when he ran the debt up to 20 trillion, NOT COUNTING unfunded mandates which make it a lot more

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 10:28:38 AM   
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Educate yourself and you may understand...do some research before you post wrong claims... which you are making again.

Butch

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 10:30:30 AM   
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Give me one example of Democrats working to shrink the size of the government

I have always said that the Greens need to splinter off and form another party - right along with the Feminazis, the socialists, the communists, the LGBTs, the black panther racists, and the Mexican racists (La Raza) etc etc etc.

Rather than gather under the "Massive Government / Hate White Men" party umbrella


I unblocked you just to tell you how amazed I am at your ignorance.

There IS a Green Party, and it is not part of the Democratic Party. And this is supposed to be about 'differences between right and left', not 'differences between Republicans and Democrats', in which case it fails in every single possible way. It's actually so aggressively biased in that I don't even think it's argued out of ignorance... it's a deliberate attempt to deceive people like you.

It's sort of like that 'REAL political spectrum' meme that is floating around that puts communists and fascists on the same end of the political spectrum... it's about die-hard right wingers dissociating themselves from unpopular movements, despite obvious similarities, and associating those movements with their political opponents.

If these kinds of memes and bullshit articles were interested in speaking to anyone outside of their echo chamber, they would at the very least refrain from using meaningless words like 'freedom' and 'evil'. But one look at the article and the website it's featured on and it's pretty fucking obvious it's mostly about making you feel happy about believing what you do. If that's all you care about then great-- now back to the blocklist you go.



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