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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 10:41:40 AM   
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If all left-wingers wanted a big government then why does the Green Party emphasize decentralization? What about the anarcho-communists? What about the classless, stateless society???

How about instead of trusting biased right-wing sources for your perspectives you go to the party websites, read their policies, and stop being so lazy? Or better yet, stop trying to label and generalize everything and think of people as individuals who are actually capable of forming their own coherent belief systems and don't exist merely to agree with whatever one of the two mainstream parties wants?


Give me one example of Democrats working to shrink the size of the government

I have always said that the Greens need to splinter off and form another party - right along with the Feminazis, the socialists, the communists, the LGBTs, the black panther racists, and the Mexican racists (La Raza) etc etc etc.

Rather than gather under the "Massive Government / Hate White Men" party umbrella


Actually Clinton did reduce govt. payrolls. Give me one instance when the right (repubs) reduced the size of govt. ?

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 10:48:43 AM   
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Will it seems that when it comes to spending of our tax money Clinton and Obama were the most frugal since Eisenhower....HERE I call that shrinking government...what say you?

Butch


How can that be when he ran the debt up to 20 trillion, NOT COUNTING unfunded mandates which make it a lot more

The nutsuckers ran the debt up to 20 trillion and made the unfunded mandates, read your constitution, commie bastard.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 11:02:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bush inherited a deficit spending surplus from Clinton... he then increased the national debt by 101 percent. Obama has also increased national debt by 68 percent but that was because of inherited debt and interest along with tax cuts mandated by the Republican Congress... the usual failed trickle down economics. Obamacare has actually decreased overall healthcare spending in America despite what the Republicans say and at the same time has provided much needed care to the less fortunate. Yes without changes it was projected to increase the dept in the future....but not now.

Butch


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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 11:08:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		no one is being clever when they find exceptions to general rules, especially when it only comes in one or two categories.

also, and things like what im about to say have been said numerous times in the forums, don't confuse what republicans actually do, or sometimes do, in government, with what a position on the right is at its heart.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 11:28:53 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Oh, so dont matter what they do, its what is in their heart.

My heart was only thinking of america, as I destroyed it, and gave it away to the corporations.

It isnt the occasional nutsucker that does this fucked up lying shit you do, its constant. And its nutsuckers, there are no republicans in congress and have not been for some time.

You are in epic fail, dogshit44.



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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 11:42:58 AM   
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Educate yourself and you may understand...do some research before you post wrong claims... which you are making again.

Butch


You are so ignorant that you don't know that Obama increased the debt by 7 trillion, to 20 trillion?

Then try to suggest that I am ignorant...

Thanks for the laugh, idiot

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 11:47:16 AM   
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no one is being clever when they find exceptions to general rules, especially when it only comes in one or two categories.

also, and things like what im about to say have been said numerous times in the forums, don't confuse what republicans actually do, or sometimes do, in government, with what a position on the right is at its heart.


RINOs, go a long way toward explaining Trump

Lets see... Another Bush, another Clinton... HMMM


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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 11:49:09 AM   
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Bush inherited a deficit spending surplus from Clinton... he then increased the national debt by 101 percent. Obama has also increased national debt by 68 percent but that was because of inherited debt and interest along with tax cuts mandated by the Republican Congress... the usual failed trickle down economics. Obamacare has actually decreased overall healthcare spending in America despite what the Republicans say and at the same time has provided much needed care to the less fortunate. Yes without changes it was projected to increase the dept in the future....but not now.

Butch



Bush also inherited a recession, a festering Mideast, and Muslims training stateside on the cusp of slaughtering 3000 Americans in one blow

Clinton's "surplus" was on account of Reagan slaying the Soviet Bear, the ensuing peace dividend - and Clinton was forced to curb spending by a Republican congress



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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 12:05:51 PM   
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Bush inherited a deficit spending surplus from Clinton... he then increased the national debt by 101 percent. Obama has also increased national debt by 68 percent but that was because of inherited debt and interest along with tax cuts mandated by the Republican Congress... the usual failed trickle down economics. Obamacare has actually decreased overall healthcare spending in America despite what the Republicans say and at the same time has provided much needed care to the less fortunate. Yes without changes it was projected to increase the dept in the future....but not now.

Butch



Bush also inherited a recession, a festering Mideast, and Muslims training stateside on the cusp of slaughtering 3000 Americans in one blow

Clinton's "surplus" was on account of Reagan slaying the Soviet Bear, the ensuing peace dividend - and Clinton was forced to curb spending by a Republican congress



No, Bush did not inherit a recession. St Wrinklemeat gave WMD to Iran and Iraq, thankfully Clinton cleaned them out. Clinton was not forced to curb spending, what happened was he pushed thru a bill to raise taxes on the wealthy and fix social securty. I would say read a little history, but know you cant read with your tongue so deep in Twitlers ass.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 1:53:30 PM   
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I have always said that the Greens need to splinter off and form another party - right along with the Feminazis, the socialists, the communists, the LGBTs, the black panther racists, and the Mexican racists (La Raza) etc etc etc.

...


O really, you "have always said" ... where and when?

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 5:49:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Bush inherited a deficit spending surplus from Clinton... he then increased the national debt by 101 percent. Obama has also increased national debt by 68 percent but that was because of inherited debt and interest along with tax cuts mandated by the Republican Congress... the usual failed trickle down economics. Obamacare has actually decreased overall healthcare spending in America despite what the Republicans say and at the same time has provided much needed care to the less fortunate. Yes without changes it was projected to increase the dept in the future....but not now.

Butch



Bush also inherited a recession, a festering Mideast, and Muslims training stateside on the cusp of slaughtering 3000 Americans in one blow

Clinton's "surplus" was on account of Reagan slaying the Soviet Bear, the ensuing peace dividend - and Clinton was forced to curb spending by a Republican congress



The Clinton economy was in free fall when Bush came in and was largely based on the dot com scam. And don't forget that Clinton was offered Bin Lauedin repeatedly and turned the offers down, witch lead to all of the wars since then. Finally he fought balancing the budget tooth and nail till it was passed then claimed it was all his idea.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 7:57:20 PM   
mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

no one is being clever when they find exceptions to general rules, especially when it only comes in one or two categories.

also, and things like what im about to say have been said numerous times in the forums, don't confuse what republicans actually do, or sometimes do, in government, with what a position on the right is at its heart.


RINOs, go a long way toward explaining Trump

Lets see... Another Bush, another Clinton... HMMM


Nutsuckers call everyone RINO. but that is all they vote for to ruin the country and continuously felch until they need to derail because they are caught being retarded and ruining the country.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/18/2017 7:58:28 PM   
mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Bush inherited a deficit spending surplus from Clinton... he then increased the national debt by 101 percent. Obama has also increased national debt by 68 percent but that was because of inherited debt and interest along with tax cuts mandated by the Republican Congress... the usual failed trickle down economics. Obamacare has actually decreased overall healthcare spending in America despite what the Republicans say and at the same time has provided much needed care to the less fortunate. Yes without changes it was projected to increase the dept in the future....but not now.

Butch



Bush also inherited a recession, a festering Mideast, and Muslims training stateside on the cusp of slaughtering 3000 Americans in one blow

Clinton's "surplus" was on account of Reagan slaying the Soviet Bear, the ensuing peace dividend - and Clinton was forced to curb spending by a Republican congress



The Clinton economy was in free fall when Bush came in and was largely based on the dot com scam. And don't forget that Clinton was offered Bin Lauedin repeatedly and turned the offers down, witch lead to all of the wars since then. Finally he fought balancing the budget tooth and nail till it was passed then claimed it was all his idea.

Of course you have credible citations and data for that, welfare patient. Oh, no, thats right you dont, you are felchgobbling.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/19/2017 12:51:26 AM   
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How, tell me how your little virgin eyes could handle it.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/19/2017 4:49:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

If all left-wingers wanted a big government then why does the Green Party emphasize decentralization? What about the anarcho-communists? What about the classless, stateless society???

How about instead of trusting biased right-wing sources for your perspectives you go to the party websites, read their policies, and stop being so lazy? Or better yet, stop trying to label and generalize everything and think of people as individuals who are actually capable of forming their own coherent belief systems and don't exist merely to agree with whatever one of the two mainstream parties wants?


Give me one example of Democrats working to shrink the size of the government

I have always said that the Greens need to splinter off and form another party - right along with the Feminazis, the socialists, the communists, the LGBTs, the black panther racists, and the Mexican racists (La Raza) etc etc etc.

Rather than gather under the "Massive Government / Hate White Men" party umbrella


Actually Clinton did reduce govt. payrolls. Give me one instance when the right (repubs) reduced the size of govt. ?

So did Carter. Didn't do either of them any good when they hd to deal with Republicans in the Congress though, did it?

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/19/2017 7:29:09 AM   
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the Mexican racists (La Raza) etc etc etc.

Which race would that be?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/19/2017 12:37:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

If all left-wingers wanted a big government then why does the Green Party emphasize decentralization? What about the anarcho-communists? What about the classless, stateless society???

How about instead of trusting biased right-wing sources for your perspectives you go to the party websites, read their policies, and stop being so lazy? Or better yet, stop trying to label and generalize everything and think of people as individuals who are actually capable of forming their own coherent belief systems and don't exist merely to agree with whatever one of the two mainstream parties wants?


Give me one example of Democrats working to shrink the size of the government

I have always said that the Greens need to splinter off and form another party - right along with the Feminazis, the socialists, the communists, the LGBTs, the black panther racists, and the Mexican racists (La Raza) etc etc etc.

Rather than gather under the "Massive Government / Hate White Men" party umbrella


Actually Clinton did reduce govt. payrolls. Give me one instance when the right (repubs) reduced the size of govt. ?

He increased the size of all departments except two. He gutted the military and DEA. That is where all of his cuts came from.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/19/2017 3:15:39 PM   
mnottertail


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GHWB did the military reductions.

http://historyinpieces.com/research/us-military-personnel-1954-2014

And regardless of your cockgargling asswipe spew, the DEA is only 5000 agents and personnel today. Dont know of any cuts.

You got facts or sucking your own ass on this one as usual welfare patient rifboy?

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/20/2017 4:41:10 PM   
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Right. Enshrine the second. turn the rest into toilet paper.

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RE: A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right - 1/20/2017 4:43:38 PM   
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Bush inherited a deficit spending surplus from Clinton... he then increased the national debt by 101 percent. Obama has also increased national debt by 68 percent but that was because of inherited debt and interest along with tax cuts mandated by the Republican Congress... the usual failed trickle down economics. Obamacare has actually decreased overall healthcare spending in America despite what the Republicans say and at the same time has provided much needed care to the less fortunate. Yes without changes it was projected to increase the dept in the future....but not now.

Butch



Bush also inherited a recession, a festering Mideast, and Muslims training stateside on the cusp of slaughtering 3000 Americans in one blow

Clinton's "surplus" was on account of Reagan slaying the Soviet Bear, the ensuing peace dividend - and Clinton was forced to curb spending by a Republican congress



Inherited a recession my ass.
The stock market was setting records every week and unemployment was below 5%.

Fucking liar Comrade.

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