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BoscoX -> 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/23/2017 1:21:43 PM)

Philadelphia - Coloring books for the younger public school indoctrinees, more advanced propaganda for the older ones

http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20170122_Phila__teachers_plan_Black_Lives_Matter_week_-_not_all_are_happy.html






thompsonx -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/23/2017 1:58:50 PM)


ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Philadelphia - Coloring books for the younger public school indoctrinees, more advanced propaganda for the older ones

http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20170122_Phila__teachers_plan_Black_Lives_Matter_week_-_not_all_are_happy.html



Mmmm! Dat sho' is fine!




Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/23/2017 8:03:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Philadelphia - Coloring books for the younger public school indoctrinees, more advanced propaganda for the older ones

http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20170122_Phila__teachers_plan_Black_Lives_Matter_week_-_not_all_are_happy.html

From the link:

For teachers unsure how to handle the subject of race, the caucus notes that "issues of race are already present in your classroom," event organizers wrote. "You can raise awareness about this omnipresent aspect of our society without triggering conflict or anxiety in your students," they wrote in organizing materials.

This is just another attempt to portray Critical Race Theory as fact and inject it into every aspect of our consciousness.

CRT [Critical Race Theory] recognizes that racism is engrained in the fabric and system of the American society. The individual racist need not exist to note that institutional racism is pervasive in the dominant culture. ~Source

This kind of crap is on a par with parading Creationism as science.

K.




Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/23/2017 8:07:28 PM)


More moonbats:

Parents in Southern Indiana are upset by a middle school worksheet's portrayal of "Sharia law" . . . “The way that the worksheet is left would be like describing how effective Hitler was at nationalizing Germany and creating patriotism but leaving out that he slaughtered 6 million Jews," said Dean Hohl, one of several parents who spoke out against the assignment at a recent New Albany-Floyd County school board meeting . . . The worksheet, assigned to seventh-graders at Highland Hills Middle School, presents a passage written by a fictional 20-year-old Saudi woman named Ahlima, who feels "very fortunate" to live under Sharia law in Saudi Arabia. ~Source

K.




DaddySatyr -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/23/2017 8:09:40 PM)


So ... Sharia law isn't good for "womens' rights"? I wonder what Madonna has to say about that?

[:D]



Michael




Termyn8or -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/23/2017 8:38:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


So ... Sharia law isn't good for "womens' rights"? I wonder what Madonna has to say about that?

[:D]

Michael



Well yeah. If they don't cover up they get raped. They can go to jail for getting raped.

T^T




Lucylastic -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/23/2017 9:00:44 PM)

FR.
From what I can see, more education about people of the world is a good thing
This thread so far shows me what the lack of that kind of education does to some people.




BoscoX -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 1:21:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

FR.
From what I can see, more education about people of the world is a good thing
This thread so far shows me what the lack of that kind of education does to some people.


I've got your education, right here

quote:


Rape and Adultery

Why are rape victims often punished by Islamic courts as adulterers?

Under Islamic law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or if there are four male witnesses. Women who allege rape without the benefit of the act having been witnessed by four men (who presumably develop a conscience afterwards) are actually confessing to having sex. If they or the accused happens to be married, then it is considered to be adultery.

Quran

Quran (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).

Quran (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them..." Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough). However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since strict Islamic law does not recognize rape if there are not four male witnesses or a confession.

Quran (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."

Quran (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.

Hadith and Sira

Sahih Bukhari (5:59:462) - The background for the Quranic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.

Notes

Rape of Muslim women is against Islamic law - although the rape of non-Muslim women is not, if they are 'captured in battle' or bought as slaves. Even the rape of a Muslim woman is almost impossible to prove under strict Islamic law (Sharia). If the man claims that the act was consensual sex, there is very little that the woman can do to refute this. Islam places the burden of avoiding sexual encounters of any sort on the woman.

A recent fatwa from a mainstream Islamic site echoes this rule and even chides a victim of incest for complaining when she has no "evidence":

However, it is not permissible to accuse the father of rape without evidence. Indeed, the Sharee’ah put some special conditions for proving Zina (fornication or adultery) that are not required in case of other crimes. The crime of Zina is not confirmed except if the fornicator admits it, or with the testimony of four trustworthy men, while the testimony of women is not accepted.

Hence, the statement of this girl or the statement of her mother in itself does not Islamically prove anything against the father, especially that the latter denies it.

Therefore, if this daughter has no evidence to prove that her accusations are true, she should not have claimed that she was raped by her father and she should not have taken him to the court. (IslamWeb.net, Image)

Since it is incredibly unlikely that a child molester will violate his victim in front of "four trustworthy men", Islamic law amounts to a free pass for sexual predators.

Islamic law rejects forensic evidence (such as DNA) in favor of testimony. An interesting situation thus sometimes develops in cases where a victim alleges rape and the man denies that sex even took place. In the absence of four male witnesses, rape cannot be proven. The woman's testimony then becomes a "confession" of adultery. She can be stoned, even though the male is unpunished, since he never admitted to a sexual act.

Some clerics blame rape on the woman. Australian Sheik Feiz recently said a rape victim "has no one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world... to tease man and appeal to his carnal nature." Even his successor, who was brought in to mitigate the backlash, compared unveiled women to "sweet pastries" tempting hungry men.

One of the world's most respected Sunni scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, recently told an audience on his al-Jazeera television show that "To be absolved from guilt, the raped woman must have shown some sort of good conduct."

Dr. Abd al-Aziz Fawazan al-Fawzan, a professor of Islamic law said that "If a woman gets raped walking in public alone, then she, herself is at fault. She is only seducing men by her presence. She should have stayed at home like a Muslim woman."

This was echoed by the imam of a Salafist mosque in Cologne, Germany in the wake of the shocking sex abuse rampage by recently arrived Muslims on New Year's Eve in 2015. He explained that "the events" (which included rape) "were the girls' own fault because they were half-naked and wearing perfume."

When it came to light in 2016 that a 13-year-old British girl had been abused by a dozen Pakistani rapists, certain members of the Muslim community said they believed the victim "played her part."

In 2013, Syria's chief Mufti, Sheikh Abd al-Rahman Ali al-Dala, issued a statement that gives soldiers religious permission to rape the women they capture.

There can be also no such thing as rape in a Muslim marriage, even if the husband has to hit the wife in order to bring about her submission. Another recent fatwa reminds a woman, she "does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her." (Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 33597).

Keep in mind that most Muslim countries do not operate under strict Islamic law, but rather under legal codes copied from the West. Therefore rape victims in these countries can - and often do - receive justice under more reasonable standards of proof.

(See also Did Muhammad Approve of Rape?)




BoscoX -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 1:25:13 AM)

The myth of how the hijab protects women against sexual assault




Greta75 -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 1:57:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


More moonbats:

Parents in Southern Indiana are upset by a middle school worksheet's portrayal of "Sharia law" . . . “The way that the worksheet is left would be like describing how effective Hitler was at nationalizing Germany and creating patriotism but leaving out that he slaughtered 6 million Jews," said Dean Hohl, one of several parents who spoke out against the assignment at a recent New Albany-Floyd County school board meeting . . . The worksheet, assigned to seventh-graders at Highland Hills Middle School, presents a passage written by a fictional 20-year-old Saudi woman named Ahlima, who feels "very fortunate" to live under Sharia law in Saudi Arabia. ~Source

K.


This is why I believe in common core! I mean you guys call it common core.

I call it regulating what the hell schools impart into the students!

We have common core, it's government regulated on what can or cannot be taught in school.

And prevents bullshit like this from being work assignment.

Worst of all. This is a fictional 20 yr old. Not even the real words of a real Saudi Woman! WTF! How can you make up a fictional character celebrating her own oppression and teach kids the values of that, which is not even the thoughts of a real person!

a passage written by a fictional 20-year-old Saudi woman named Ahlima, who feels "very fortunate" to live under Sharia law in Saudi Arabia. She writes about how she will soon become a man's second wife and explains her modest dress: "I understand that some foreigners see our dress as a way of keeping women from being equal, but ... I find Western women's clothing to be horribly immodest.”


I believe in educating them neutrally on all kinds of religions and cultures for general knowledge for example. But let the children form their own conclusions.

But seriously that would make me totally ill that a kid is exposed to false propaganda like that. That is not properly educating the kid. Proper education is teaching them exactly what Sharia is about. Just go with facts, that what constitutes sharia law, and the typical laws that exists in Sharia law runned country that is uniquely sharia law.

And then tell the kid to later write an essay, on their feelings towards it, whether they think it's a good law or not, and why? Do not tell them what they should feel about this, whether positive or negative. Let them process it and form their own opinions.

That would be neutral!




Greta75 -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 2:10:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

The myth of how the hijab protects women against sexual assault

Gosh. World Hijab day to celebrate freedom of women to wear what they want.
The hijab is the total opposite of wearing what you want!

Great article, and everything about supporting Islam in any form or manner to me, is a sad day for women and the progress they have made to be able to be treated as equals.

And yes, anybody who says hijab prevents sexual assault is victim blaming and putting the whole responsibility on women and body shaming them and no responsibility or accountability on men for their unacceptable behaviour, IF they feel entitled to attack a female body just because she is not draped in baggy Ninja suit.




Greta75 -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 2:24:16 AM)

I was reading the comments of the article that kirata posted. This is soooooo typical of Muslim men! This does not make him look good at all!

I am a Muslim and my religion does not inform me "that women aren't really human beings, but rather a superior variety of livestock." Quite the opposit, it informs me that women are equal to men and that they should be respected and they are where I come from, even if we have our own problems too, just like most places in the world.
Not all Muslims live the same way as those in Afghanistan and each Muslim country has its own traditions and these should not be confused with the religion itself. Look at Holland and its Liberal laws. It is a Christian country and it allows women to be desplayed in shop windows to sell sex. Does that mean Christianity allows prostitution?


Someone needs to tell this dude. Jesus told people not to stone prostitutes! And there is nothing wrong with prostitution. It is part of the freedom of women to do whatever they want with their bodies, something he as a Muslim man has zero concept about.

Women in Holland are not FORCED against their will to stand at windows and hawk themselves. Some simply love and enjoy sex and chose it as a career.

Women in HIS country are FORCED against their will to cover up. So how are they respected if they are told they don't deserve respect unless they cover up? THIS is the damn Muslim logic! And he is also insinuating that those prostitutes aren't being respected for what they do. Something we are all trying to move away from. Treating everybody with respect regardless what they choose to do for a living as long as it's honest living. They provide a service with clear terms and conditions and the person purchasing the services agrees to the terms. It's business.

Another Muslim male said: Since when does how one dress matter in equality?

Typical. And then he goes on rambling about traditional male and female roles. So men have some obligations to women and women have some obligations to men too, like WTF, so women are obligated to dress a certain way because I guess her husband supplies her the money to buy her ninja suits so she better buy the specific kind of ninja suit he WANTS since she is spending HIS money!

Just going online and reading Muslim men talk and justify why they believe what they believe in, is, they are precisely what I think they are! They do treat women like a superior quality of livestock.




Greta75 -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 2:46:56 AM)

More Muslim justification about why women MUST wear the Hijab to prevent herself from being Objectified and I gotta say, in moderate malaysia the stupid article mentioned always used as an example that it ain't as bad as Saudi Arabia. Their Ministers says this PRECISE same things to plead to women to understand why they want to instill the Hijab dress code upon them!

Just to expound a bit, while both covered and non-covered women are human beings, it's *easier* to see covered women as human beings. My statement sounds erroneous but I'll explain why you may get the wrong interpretation by saying what I mean. When a male sees a non-covered woman, the male may just look. That's it, that's what I mean. When ogling, thoughts don't come to mind, males literally, will just ogle. This is due to objectifying the woman, which is in the nature of men and requires control. If a male sees a covered woman, in terms of sexuality, there's nothing to ogle at. Objectification won't be attempted and the male will simply regard that person as, well, just another person. Basically, when a male sees something attractive, the time that male gazes is the time the man objectifies, and in that sense doesn't regard that woman as a human (again, because he's objectifying, it's not that he's trying to see you as an object, but it's instinct, nature, so that woman can't be thought of as a person because the male is too busy objectifying, whilst no other thoughts come to mind, and they just ogle.)

What is absolutely crazy is that a Muslim male CANNOT imagine how it is possible for a man to look at a woman who is not covered up and NOT objectify her.




thompsonx -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:08:35 AM)


ORIGINAL: Kirata

This kind of crap is on a par with parading Creationism as science.


Would you have anything more sturdy than your unsubstantiated opinion to butress this position?




thompsonx -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:17:44 AM)


ORIGINAL: Kirata


More moonbats:

Parents in Southern Indiana are upset by a middle school worksheet's portrayal of "Sharia law" . . . “The way that the worksheet is left would be like describing how effective Hitler was at nationalizing Germany and creating patriotism but leaving out that he slaughtered 6 million Jews," said Dean Hohl, one of several parents who spoke out against the assignment at a recent New Albany-Floyd County school board meeting . . . The worksheet, assigned to seventh-graders at Highland Hills Middle School, presents a passage written by a fictional 20-year-old Saudi woman named Ahlima, who feels "very fortunate" to live under Sharia law in Saudi Arabia.[/color] ~Source


From your link




Initially, the curriculum was two consecutive activities – one focusing on Ahlima and one focusing on an Israeli woman of a similar age who served in the army and wanted to attend college. Coletti said she later combined the two lessons for clarity.

She said that despite the change, the goal of the assignment was the same: to help students think for themselves and arrive at the conclusion that the Israeli has more rights and freedoms than the Saudi woman of the same age. If they don’t arrive at that conclusion, she said, the teacher is expected to help the student understand.





thompsonx -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:27:20 AM)


ORIGINAL: BoscoX

From your link

Keep in mind that most Muslim countries do not operate under strict Islamic law, but rather under legal codes copied from the West. Therefore rape victims in these countries can - and often do - receive justice under more reasonable standards of proof.





Greta75 -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:38:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
From your link

Keep in mind that most Muslim countries do not operate under strict Islamic law, but rather under legal codes copied from the West. Therefore rape victims in these countries can - and often do - receive justice under more reasonable standards of proof.

Every Muslim country does subscribe to a mixture of sharia and laws copied from the west, and it differs from country to country which Muslim country wanna use sharia to handle rape, and which country wanna follow western laws.
But in the middle east, they are definitely following sharia. Even their most moderate middle eastern Dubai is following sharia proceedings for rape, which means the woman gets punished.

In Malaysia, yes a woman who is rape gets the justice similar to western justice. Still does not absolve Islam from having horrendous laws towards women who got raped.

It's a matter of whether Muslims wanna choose to implement it or not.





Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:48:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: Kirata

This kind of crap is on a par with parading Creationism as science.

Would you have anything more sturdy than your unsubstantiated opinion to butress this position?

Well yeah, I think so. Let's start with the part of my post that you snipped.

CRT [Critical Race Theory] recognizes that racism is engrained in the fabric and system of the American society. The individual racist need not exist to note that institutional racism is pervasive in the dominant culture.

Creationism in its "science" costume (Intelligent Design) simply omits predicating a "God" in order to pass as non-religious.

ID [Intelligent Design] recognizes that design is engrained in the fabric and systems of Nature. An individual designer need not exist to note that design is pervasive in the natural world.

Neither is talking about anything actually factual. Both are putting a "frame" on reality, and in both cases that frame excludes everything that calls it into question or contradicts it.

Thanks for asking.

K.





thompsonx -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:55:11 AM)


ORIGINAL: Greta75
ORIGINAL: thompsonx
From your link

Keep in mind that most Muslim countries do not operate under strict Islamic law, but rather under legal codes copied from the West. Therefore rape victims in these countries can - and often do - receive justice under more reasonable standards of proof.

Every Muslim country does subscribe to a mixture of sharia and laws copied from the west,


That is not what the link from the idiot from iodaho says. The link from tommie says you are full of shit. Why don't you two assholes get youir stories straight?



and it differs from country to country which Muslim country wanna use sharia to handle rape, and which country wanna follow western laws.


Yup that is what the link says which means you are a phoquing liar.

But in the middle east, they are definitely following sharia.


Name them dumbass.

Even their most moderate middle eastern Dubai is following sharia proceedings for rape, which means the woman gets punished.

So don't vacation there.

In Malaysia, yes a woman who is rape gets the justice similar to western justice. Still does not absolve Islam from having horrendous laws towards women who got raped.

Is that kinda like having a nazi for a leader who allows a third of his people to go hungry so that a fifth can be millionaires?

It's a matter of whether Muslims wanna choose to implement it or not.

What percentage follow shira law?




Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:57:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: Kirata

More moonbats:

Parents in Southern Indiana are upset by a middle school worksheet's portrayal of "Sharia law" . . . “The way that the worksheet is left would be like describing how effective Hitler was at nationalizing Germany and creating patriotism but leaving out that he slaughtered 6 million Jews," said Dean Hohl, one of several parents who spoke out against the assignment at a recent New Albany-Floyd County school board meeting . . . The worksheet, assigned to seventh-graders at Highland Hills Middle School, presents a passage written by a fictional 20-year-old Saudi woman named Ahlima, who feels "very fortunate" to live under Sharia law in Saudi Arabia. ~Source

From your link

Initially, the curriculum was two consecutive activities – one focusing on Ahlima and one focusing on an Israeli woman of a similar age who served in the army and wanted to attend college. Coletti said she later combined the two lessons for clarity.

She said that despite the change, the goal of the assignment was the same: to help students think for themselves and arrive at the conclusion that the Israeli has more rights and freedoms than the Saudi woman of the same age. If they don’t arrive at that conclusion, she said, the teacher is expected to help the student understand.

Try to focus on the pretty red words. The objection was that the worksheet didn't portray the reality of Sharia Law as it is actually widely practiced. See how that makes the "Israeli woman" irrelevant?

Of course you do. There's a good fellow.

K.





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