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DaddySatyr -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 9:22:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

its one of my favorite things to trot out.

although, truth be told, id be happy to give up the pleasure of it in exchange for his not being here at all.



So ... "fuck your dead son and everything he stood for" is how one "delineates their disagreement with validation from reputable sources"?

Really?



Michael




tamaka -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 9:34:24 AM)

Pro abortion arguments have used alternative facts for decades.




mnottertail -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 9:41:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

its one of my favorite things to trot out.

although, truth be told, id be happy to give up the pleasure of it in exchange for his not being here at all.



So ... "fuck your dead son and everything he stood for" is how one "delineates their disagreement with validation from reputable sources"?

Really?



Michael


Nobody said fuck your dead son, Stolen Valor. sorry he died, in the service of his country, somewhere besides where and how you keep exaggerating the claims over time. I see no reputable sources on or in your claim, and in fact I see very unreputable contradictions and outright mendacity in your factless claims, as well as pure nutsucker propaganda.

REALLY?




bounty44 -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 9:49:05 AM)

i suspect that being a sociopathic troll sometimes overrides one's ability to be have both intellectual ability (being able to argue successfully) and moral integrity (being true to one's word AND having made the highly improbable and patently untrue "delineate" statement in the first place).

we could ask vile critter parts; he shares those characteristics.




mnottertail -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 9:55:32 AM)

Thats why you shake out as a felchgobbler.




BoscoX -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 10:09:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i suspect that being a sociopathic troll sometimes overrides one's ability to be have both intellectual ability (being able to argue successfully) and moral integrity (being true to one's word AND having made the highly improbable and patently untrue "delineate" statement in the first place).

we could ask vile critter parts; he shares those characteristics.


Trying to discuss anything with rabid weasels, is always a fruitless endeavor.




Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 10:23:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

its one of my favorite things to trot out.

although, truth be told, id be happy to give up the pleasure of it in exchange for his not being here at all.

So ... "fuck your dead son and everything he stood for" is how one "delineates their disagreement with validation from reputable sources"?

Really?


Nobody said fuck your dead son, Stolen Valor. sorry he died, in the service of his country, somewhere besides where and how you keep exaggerating the claims over time. I see no reputable sources on or in your claim, and in fact I see very unreputable contradictions and outright mendacity in your factless claims, as well as pure nutsucker propaganda.

I don't have that exact quote word for word, but I'd call this as good as:

Are you running out of children to feed the war machine? . . . You sent your son off to kill poor people to make rich people richer . . . In 1967 I informed everyone in my family that if I caught them anywhere near a recruters office I would chop off their trigger finger. Had you admonished your son in a similar fashion he would still be alive. But no you filled his head with the moronic shit you post here and now you snivel instead of owning your own shit.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4745211

K.




mnottertail -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 10:30:59 AM)

Yeah, I wouldn't call that 'as good as', but then English is my first language.




Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 11:30:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah, I wouldn't call that 'as good as' but then English is my first language.

Even if English was your first language, people forget and you don't use it very often.

K.





WhoreMods -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 11:32:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

its one of my favorite things to trot out.

although, truth be told, id be happy to give up the pleasure of it in exchange for his not being here at all.



So ... "fuck your dead son and everything he stood for" is how one "delineates their disagreement with validation from reputable sources"?

Really?



Michael


So "I killed my son, but it's your fault" is a get out for the shite you spout now?
If it gives you a license to bleat and an excuse to play the victim, you're probably glad he's dead. You certainly act like that's the case in here.




bounty44 -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 11:59:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
but I'd call this as good as...


I would likewise




Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 12:01:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

So "I killed my son, but it's your fault" is a get out for the shite you spout now?
If it gives you a license to bleat and an excuse to play the victim, you're probably glad he's dead. You certainly act like that's the case in here.

You must live in a strange part of the UK. I don't know if they put something in the water there, but one thing seems certain: it's a long fall to the gutter if you slip off the sidewalk.

K.






vincentML -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 12:39:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

FR

No reaction from those on the left regarding the curriculum except for LL who seems to support indoctrinating and radicalizing students of all ages beginning with propagandized coloring books etc

I don't read ThompsonX's posts, but I am guessing he favors it as well

The rest must agree with it then, or at least not oppose it? I am guessing.

Says a lot about where the left is, and where they are trying to take us as a nation

It's kind of interesting to watch you struggle with such a vital and monumental issue as to what this group or that thinks of whatever. Does that mean you have lost your magical mind reading skill?

It may be that some people are not responding because it seems like such a trivial issue to warrant all this brouhaha! Really, the Empire is not at stake. Don't let me stand in the way of your lame fun and games. But look, what exactly is the problem? It is not a mandatory curriculum, is it? And, don't you suppose that children have noticed that we are quite varied as a species? Is that not so salient that it should be a teachable opportunity? Public education is not just about what is in books. If it is part of our mission to promote the creed of "equal opportunity" how the fuck is it revolutionary, radicalizing, or indoctrinating to teach that skin color is only a superficial difference? Keep in mind that 72% of the students are people of color.

You lot have not even seen the proposed materials, have you? And here you are raising an alarm. That is the worst form of book burning imaginable, stifling ideas before they are expressed. Stoke up the bonfires, lads.

[8|]




tamaka -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 1:02:38 PM)

Most people can't solve 2 + 4 x 6 = ? correctly. The teachers should br focusing on understanding math skills instead.




WickedsDesire -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 1:18:48 PM)

Can someone remind me when Americashire unslaved/ did not segregate the savage darkies.....within my heart, or hearts made of granite i feel this must have occurred before 1492. I honestly do not know? I need the last 3 states and years? was it 1963?

Incidentally, I do not believe in affirmative action - I find that racist...anyone like to disagree?

Still, what was you presidents thoughts on those filthy american rapists, or those slant eye chinks taking all your money whilst the orange face race of monkeys shoved their snouts into the trough and feasted and paid not one fuking dime of taxes.

Do tell me




Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 2:39:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

how the fuck is it revolutionary, radicalizing, or indoctrinating to teach that skin color is only a superficial difference...

You lot have not even seen the proposed materials, have you?

Have you seen the materials? Because if not, how can you claim to know what they teach? I don't disagree with your sentiments, and I wish what you suggest was in fact the case, but Black Lives Matter is virtually by definition opposed to that kind of "color-blindness" because it is experienced as dismissive of the identities of individuals who self-identify in terms of race.

The Black Lives Matter movement has allowed the country to approach having honest, clear and urgent dialogue on structural racism by punching holes in the cone of silence that typically suffocates meaningful dialogue on racism with a sea of deeply cynical memes like political correctness, reverse racism, and color blindness. ~Source

You will find the above confirmed by many other sources. It also bears note that a phrase like "structural racism" is a signature of Critical Race Theory in action. But its emphasis on race-consciousness is wholly antithetical to bringing us together. If there's one thing that people of different races will never have in common it's their race. Morgan Freeman is right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s

K.




vincentML -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:45:44 PM)

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Have you seen the materials? Because if not, how can you claim to know what they teach?

I read the linked article, K. It informed me of the proposed teaching for upper grades:

coloring pages for very young students to a science lesson about the biology of skin color for older ones.

Your judgment of the essay about BLM is critically flawed. If you think it is a negative opinion piece on BLM, as you seem to, you should read it more carefully. Some snips for you to consider:

The Black Lives Matter meme is powerful because it resonates so deeply across the spectrum of the Black community – from a 14 year old protestor in Ferguson, to a 93 year old grandmother in Georgia, to a trans woman in Los Angeles, to a fast food worker in Boston, to a returning citizen in Louisiana, to the President of the United States. It simply captures our enduring reality that even though we have made progress, on average Black lives still do not matter as much as White lives as a matter of institutional policy and social practice.

At first blush, this may feel like a provocative statement. But the naked truth of our world is that although all lives matter, some lives matter more than others. In our world and in our country, the rich matter more than the poor; men matter more than women; citizens matter more than non-citizens; heterosexuals matter more than gays and lesbians; soldiers and police officers matter more than civilians; and yes White people matter more than Black people. The relative worth of different classes of people can be seen in how laws, institutional policies and practices are implemented differentially. For instance, the rich get preferential treatment in tax policy; men get paid more than women for the same work; same sex couples still have to fight for the right to marry and the associated legal protections; police tend not to get indicted for killing civilians, etc. Another example is the gutting of the Voting Rights Act by the Supreme Court and the slew of voter suppression laws that were designed to have a disproportionately negative impact on the Black community. One of the most blatant and significant political enshrinements of Black lives mattering less than White lives is found in Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution, commonly known as the “three-fifths compromise” that defined the value or worth of those in bondage (largely enslaved Blacks) as only three fifths of free people (almost entirely White). Even after the 13th Amendment abolished slavery in the Union territories in 1864 and the 14th amendment specifically negated the three fifths compromise, there were countless laws, provisions, policies and practices in every jurisdiction of this country, including at the federal level, that established an enduring legacy that defined White lives as more precious than Black lives and that Black people deserved to be treated worse.

Our once strong and powerful national organizations and infrastructure have a greatly diminished influence on national and local policy. Our ability to frame and articulate the need for Black social change has literally been whitewashed with a litany of memes (e.g., reverse racism, criminalization of Black youth, post-racial, political correctness, etc.) in a successful effort to delegitimize the continuing need for Black social change in the hearts and minds of the public. Black arts and media that once provided social critique and analysis has become commodified and stripped of most of its political/critical substance.

Finally, we have to re-create a social and political imperative for Black social change. The powerful conservative backlash against the Civil Rights and Black Power movements has systematically weakened Black-led infrastructure and created an infrastructure and social milieu that effectively delegitimizes, marginalizes and vilifies anyone and any effort that tries to speak assertively about structural racism and the legitimate need for equity,


***

This year we celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the passage of the Voting Rights Act. It is important for the country to mark the anniversary of this historic milestone in the Black community’s struggle and legacy for equality and justice in America. However, we can do more than just commemorate this milestone, we can chart a new path and organize to build the political and institutional power we need to secure new milestones in the journey for Black freedom, justice and equity. We must answer the call to make Black lives matter more in every aspect of this society and for the Black community to have a greater opportunity to thrive as a whole. The Black Lives Matter movement has created space for meaningful dialogue and action and allowed an opening to assert the need to build a powerful Black infrastructure for change. This is a once in a generation moment, as the 50 years in between Selma and Ferguson should illustrate. We must seize on this moment and opportunity to build a lasting and powerful infrastructure for Black social change and to dismantle structural racism. If we do this, then we will make Black Lives Matter today, tomorrow and forevermore.


Great article. Thanks for sharing. [:)]





Musicmystery -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:57:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

its one of my favorite things to trot out.

although, truth be told, id be happy to give up the pleasure of it in exchange for his not being here at all.



So ... "fuck your dead son and everything he stood for" is how one "delineates their disagreement with validation from reputable sources"?

Really?



Michael


I know going after a couple whose son made the ultimate sacrifice for this country was pretty damn low.




Kirata -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 3:59:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Your judgment of the essay about BLM is critically flawed. If you think it is a negative opinion piece on BLM....

I don't, and I can't see where I said anything whatsoever to give anyone that impression, so either your judgment or your ability to comprehend English must be critically flawed.

But hey, I'm glad you liked it. [:)]

K.





vincentML -> RE: 'Revolutionary' Black Lies Matter Kindergarten Curriculum (1/24/2017 4:01:13 PM)

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Incidentally, I do not believe in affirmative action - I find that racist...anyone like to disagree?

I understand that you are outside the tent pissing in and I am pleased to read your prose [:)] but "reverse racism" is just another brick in the wall that surrounds the Black community. You might read about affirmative action in the context of our racial history. Note the article linked by Kirata. It makes a good case, imo.




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