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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/24/2017 7:41:51 PM   
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That's scary if there was no record on file. But I am surprise even Fox News is not pursuing this. I guess because he is no longer President, nobody cares anymore.



there is now! LOL

You seen the picture of it that he posted on his website. It doesnt even have a state seal to verify it is genuine and does not look like others of the time!

No, thats not the way it works around this country. There is line that is not crossed by the news. You didnt hear another about clintons little drug ring either on fox news.

The people who are supposed to prosecute these things get paid off.

Look into what happened to 911 litigants, the people eho did not accept the 'pay off' see where that went.








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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/24/2017 7:47:25 PM   
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vincentML I really don't know that one or why it became the 50th state....



Wicked . . . the Plantation owners (Dole Fruits, or whatever) engineered a rebellion against the Native Queen and talked our Congre$$ into declaring the islands a territory.

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/24/2017 7:54:32 PM   
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1893 Americans overthrow Hawaiian monarchy
On the Hawaiian Islands, a group of American sugar planters under Sanford Ballard Dole overthrow Queen Liliuokalani, the Hawaiian monarch, and establish a new provincial government with Dole as president. The coup occurred with the foreknowledge of John L. Stevens, the U.S. minister to Hawaii, and 300 U.S. Marines from the U.S. cruiser Boston were called to Hawaii, allegedly to protect American lives.


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Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/24/2017 8:04:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		vincentML sorry i was day dreaming - one day I will simply not be here...you are are another I have never spoken to before i vouch for you 100% fuk knows why you are on here?

Where were we Great nations? There was only one in the modern epoch and it was called Great Britain…would anyone like to disagree?



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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/24/2017 8:08:26 PM   
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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/24/2017 8:16:34 PM   
Real0ne


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You sure you want to go there with me?


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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/24/2017 8:36:17 PM   
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That aside where are we up to tonight? I told you go to easy on them and if you were 51% I would have it no other way with you.

Oblivion or abyss? With me and my 3 cats and hot water now bare in mind one of us is real and the other not. A shroud of darkness surrounds me...you must meet that one day with several bitches

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 4:48:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

That's scary if there was no record on file. But I am surprise even Fox News is not pursuing this. I guess because he is no longer President, nobody cares anymore.

Bear in mind that you're talking to somebody who also insists that the film, photos and accounts of the holocaust were all faked as well, Greta.

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 6:09:07 AM   
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vincentML sorry i was day dreaming - one day I will simply not be here...you are are another I have never spoken to before i vouch for you 100% fuk knows why you are on here?

Where were we Great nations? There was only one in the modern epoch and it was called Great Britain…would anyone like to disagree?




Wicked . . . . one day none of us will be here . . . but we will not be inconvenienced. . . . . "It's all in the game" sung sweetly by Nat Cole

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 6:14:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

anohter altruistic benevolent american love story


1893 Americans overthrow Hawaiian monarchy
On the Hawaiian Islands, a group of American sugar planters under Sanford Ballard Dole overthrow Queen Liliuokalani, the Hawaiian monarch, and establish a new provincial government with Dole as president. The coup occurred with the foreknowledge of John L. Stevens, the U.S. minister to Hawaii, and 300 U.S. Marines from the U.S. cruiser Boston were called to Hawaii, allegedly to protect American lives.



I wonder who would have taken the island, if we hadn't. The Japanese? The Russians? The British?

It was the way of the world back then. Either allow your enemies to lay claim to everything, or claim it yourself as a means of defense. To try to claim that we are better or worse than others for being exactly like everyone else makes little sense. Even the islanders, natives everywhere, had their wars. Fought for domination against their neighbors




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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 7:36:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		So, we subjugated Hawaii and Russia subjugated Cuba, follow the sugar.

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 7:51:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

anohter altruistic benevolent american love story


1893 Americans overthrow Hawaiian monarchy
On the Hawaiian Islands, a group of American sugar planters under Sanford Ballard Dole overthrow Queen Liliuokalani, the Hawaiian monarch, and establish a new provincial government with Dole as president. The coup occurred with the foreknowledge of John L. Stevens, the U.S. minister to Hawaii, and 300 U.S. Marines from the U.S. cruiser Boston were called to Hawaii, allegedly to protect American lives.



I wonder who would have taken the island, if we hadn't. The Japanese? The Russians? The British?

It was the way of the world back then. Either allow your enemies to lay claim to everything, or claim it yourself as a means of defense. To try to claim that we are better or worse than others for being exactly like everyone else makes little sense. Even the islanders, natives everywhere, had their wars. Fought for domination against their neighbors


Well, yeah, but that has been our claim since Woodrow Wilson decried imperialism. Granted, what we said and what we did were two different things. That brings up another interesting issue. The core issue that sparked both great wars of the 20th Century was imperialistic ambition. Some nations were advancing theirs and others were defending theirs. Soooo , , , , how were they righteous wars? And did young men not die in vain?

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 8:22:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can you imagine if your communist friends had taken Hawaii? They would likely have tortured all of the natives to death rather than give them superior rights

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 8:44:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, if Americans had helped Chiang Kia-sheik when he asked, instead of burying themselves in isolationist populism, the Nationalists would be ruling China instead of just Taiwan, and Communist China would never have happened.

But that's using actual facts.


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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 8:47:04 AM   
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Can you imagine if your communist friends had taken Hawaii? They would likely have tortured all of the natives to death rather than give them superior rights

Like they did in Cuba, you mean? And get your tongue out of the nutsucker slobberblogs and look around you, the communists are your freinds, tomi the nutsucker.

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 8:55:47 AM   
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Actually, if Americans had helped Chiang Kia-sheik when he asked, instead of burying themselves in isolationist populism, the Nationalists would be ruling China instead of just Taiwan, and Communist China would never have happened.

But that's using actual facts.




Now you want us to believe that you are this massive world cop war hawk type...

Which Team America doll is your favorite



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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 9:17:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting that the "alternative facts" crowd are also the ones who have trouble with history😏

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 10:31:19 AM   
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Interesting that the "alternative facts" crowd are also the ones who have trouble with history😏

And logic, and science, and...

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 10:32:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Isn't that a given? Once you start insisting that there's any such thing as "alternative facts" then reality, and its historical underpinning becomes malleable rather than fixed, and you can start renegotiating both to suit you at will.

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RE: Forget it, America will never be great again - 1/25/2017 10:37:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Felchgobblers first redefine the meaning of words, war is peace, freedom is slavery, healthcare is death, ignorance is strength, you hear this from their nutsucker slobberblogging all the time. They tried in 84 but that talking dildo in a necktie only began the march to the utopian nutsucker regime and agenda of destroying the country.

And-----------uh---------------than, prolly.

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