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BamaD -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/26/2017 7:16:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

"And who is gonna clean your toilets Mr Trump, if you kick out all the Mexicans"


Issue legal work permits for them to come back in to clean your toilets.

Seriously, Trump just needs to have everything more orderly and have US able to issue official work permits to these people who wants to do basic level work in US that no Americans wanna do.
I hope he does that. That's how to clean up illegal immigration. But still need to establish a proper border. Although I personally favour having a deep moat rather than a wall, it won't be as pretty. Part of orderly and organized way to have people come in.

The US has had work visas for decades.




AtUrCervix -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/26/2017 7:20:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

. . . and, well . . . planes can fly over walls.

This is hilarious! https://www.facebook.com/truTVAdamRuinsEverything/videos/vb.426924420843638/595128624023216/?type=3&theater

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/08/jorge-ramos/ramos-40-undocumented-immigrants-come-air/




Loooove the innocuous Hollyweird's perspective on the facts.




tj444 -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/26/2017 7:22:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

The point is that we should be deporting them instead of providing them sanctuary.... no matter how they get here. There is a legal immigration process to follow... just like there would be a legal process you'd have to follow if you wanted to move to Mexico, or any other country for that matter.

Yeah, no, We don't have a system that can track the visas, or really know when they are overstayed, or any real requirement, once again see the nutsuckers.




Well give me an hour and i can whip up one. Seriously.



no you cant, not one that is totally accurate cuz the US govt/border doesnt check who exits the country, there are many ways to exit, on foot, by boat, bus, etc that dont have US border agents checking who is leaving.. all those border agents are checking who enters the US, not who exits.. there is limited info on departures, airline lists they have but I could walk across anywhere along the border to Canada and cross into Canada without either country knowing.. and I am Canadian so I have a right to be there if I want, no matter how the fuck I got across..




BoscoX -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/26/2017 7:44:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tj444


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

"And who is gonna clean your toilets Mr Trump, if you kick out all the Mexicans"

(From a View liberal)

As to illegals flying in, can't watch the video right now. Assuming it's not just straight off of MMS fake news feed, whatever happened to airport security customs and immigration visa checks. Did Obama do away with all of that



as long as someone isnt from a restricted country and/or on the terrorist watch list (as Senator Ted Kennedy was) or been kicked out before, all you need is to say you are coming to visit disneyland & SoCal for 2 weeks, & that you have a hotel reservation and have your return flight ticket.. what do you think they are gonna say? if you dont have any reason for them to say "no you cant enter" they will let you in.. duh..


Make it a felony to employ an illegal.

NEXT PROBLEM




mnottertail -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/26/2017 8:23:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

"And who is gonna clean your toilets Mr Trump, if you kick out all the Mexicans"

(From a View liberal)

As to illegals flying in, can't watch the video right now. Assuming it's not just straight off of MMS fake news feed, whatever happened to airport security customs and immigration visa checks. Did Obama do away with all of that



as long as someone isnt from a restricted country and/or on the terrorist watch list (as Senator Ted Kennedy was) or been kicked out before, all you need is to say you are coming to visit disneyland & SoCal for 2 weeks, & that you have a hotel reservation and have your return flight ticket.. what do you think they are gonna say? if you dont have any reason for them to say "no you cant enter" they will let you in.. duh..


Make it a felony to employ an illegal.

NEXT PROBLEM


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........................it already is.




BamaD -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/26/2017 8:45:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

"And who is gonna clean your toilets Mr Trump, if you kick out all the Mexicans"

(From a View liberal)

As to illegals flying in, can't watch the video right now. Assuming it's not just straight off of MMS fake news feed, whatever happened to airport security customs and immigration visa checks. Did Obama do away with all of that



as long as someone isnt from a restricted country and/or on the terrorist watch list (as Senator Ted Kennedy was) or been kicked out before, all you need is to say you are coming to visit disneyland & SoCal for 2 weeks, & that you have a hotel reservation and have your return flight ticket.. what do you think they are gonna say? if you dont have any reason for them to say "no you cant enter" they will let you in.. duh..


Make it a felony to employ an illegal.

NEXT PROBLEM


Make it a felony to KNOWINGLY employ an illegal.




tamaka -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/26/2017 9:33:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

The point is that we should be deporting them instead of providing them sanctuary.... no matter how they get here. There is a legal immigration process to follow... just like there would be a legal process you'd have to follow if you wanted to move to Mexico, or any other country for that matter.

Yeah, no, We don't have a system that can track the visas, or really know when they are overstayed, or any real requirement, once again see the nutsuckers.




Well give me an hour and i can whip up one. Seriously.



no you cant, not one that is totally accurate cuz the US govt/border doesnt check who exits the country, there are many ways to exit, on foot, by boat, bus, etc that dont have US border agents checking who is leaving.. all those border agents are checking who enters the US, not who exits.. there is limited info on departures, airline lists they have but I could walk across anywhere along the border to Canada and cross into Canada without either country knowing.. and I am Canadian so I have a right to be there if I want, no matter how the fuck I got across..


I think perhaps we should microchip them. Then we'll always know where they are.




bounty44 -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 6:22:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

"And who is gonna clean your toilets Mr Trump, if you kick out all the Mexicans"

(From a View liberal)

As to illegals flying in, can't watch the video right now. Assuming it's not just straight off of MMS fake news feed, whatever happened to airport security customs and immigration visa checks. Did Obama do away with all of that



as long as someone isnt from a restricted country and/or on the terrorist watch list (as Senator Ted Kennedy was) or been kicked out before, all you need is to say you are coming to visit disneyland & SoCal for 2 weeks, & that you have a hotel reservation and have your return flight ticket.. what do you think they are gonna say? if you dont have any reason for them to say "no you cant enter" they will let you in.. duh..


true to some extent, but there is also this:

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"One difference between overstayers and those who enter unlawfully is that overstayers have been screened and found admissible at least once, while those who enter another way -- mostly by crossing the border, or passing illegally through a port of entry -- could include people who would be inadmissible, because they have committed serious crimes or are on a security watchlist," Rosenblum said. "This is a legitimate reason to be more focused on illegal entries than overstayers."


http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/08/jorge-ramos/ramos-40-undocumented-immigrants-come-air/

so while neither are good, one way likely produces more harm, or at least has the potential to do more harm, than the other.




bounty44 -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 6:32:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

I think perhaps we should microchip them. Then we'll always know where they are.



i rather wonder how hard it would be to set up a system, and to an extent i think one already exists, wherein foreigners here are handled similarly to parolees. they are required to check in with a particular office on a regular basis and when they don't, a process is begun whereby law enforcement is enrolled and things occur in the same way as if they are searching for a criminal. one would think most missing people would turn up in a bank, credit card, dmv, postal service, cell phone, etc.





WhoreMods -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 7:34:23 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

The point is that we should be deporting them instead of providing them sanctuary.... no matter how they get here. There is a legal immigration process to follow... just like there would be a legal process you'd have to follow if you wanted to move to Mexico, or any other country for that matter.

Yeah, no, We don't have a system that can track the visas, or really know when they are overstayed, or any real requirement, once again see the nutsuckers.




Well give me an hour and i can whip up one. Seriously.



no you cant, not one that is totally accurate cuz the US govt/border doesnt check who exits the country, there are many ways to exit, on foot, by boat, bus, etc that dont have US border agents checking who is leaving.. all those border agents are checking who enters the US, not who exits.. there is limited info on departures, airline lists they have but I could walk across anywhere along the border to Canada and cross into Canada without either country knowing.. and I am Canadian so I have a right to be there if I want, no matter how the fuck I got across..


I think perhaps we should microchip them. Then we'll always know where they are.


Because of couse, immigrants are just like dogs or any other livestock: they're far too stupid to be capable of locating a subcutaneous implant and using a knife to remove it.




Lucylastic -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 7:42:56 AM)

well you could make em blow up if they tried to remove them...
that would be fair, legal and wouldnt cause a fuss.
right?




WhoreMods -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 7:44:54 AM)

Wasn't that in Battle Royale?

(You're correct that it does raise certain interesting questions about legal rights, though. Still: Republicans. They've never given a shit about any of that sort of lefty nonsense, have they?)




mnottertail -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 7:49:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

I think perhaps we should microchip them. Then we'll always know where they are.



i rather wonder how hard it would be to set up a system, and to an extent i think one already exists, wherein foreigners here are handled similarly to parolees. they are required to check in with a particular office on a regular basis and when they don't, a process is begun whereby law enforcement is enrolled and things occur in the same way as if they are searching for a criminal. one would think most missing people would turn up in a bank, credit card, dmv, postal service, cell phone, etc.



Yeah, you would have to pay for that rather than incarcerating and selling out entire corporations, and hiring welfare patients to make a bigger government, and building walls, and having a fiscally irresponsible military-industrial complex and be nutsucker catamites.

Never gonna happen.




WhoreMods -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 7:56:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

I think perhaps we should microchip them. Then we'll always know where they are.



i rather wonder how hard it would be to set up a system, and to an extent i think one already exists, wherein foreigners here are handled similarly to parolees. they are required to check in with a particular office on a regular basis and when they don't, a process is begun whereby law enforcement is enrolled and things occur in the same way as if they are searching for a criminal. one would think most missing people would turn up in a bank, credit card, dmv, postal service, cell phone, etc.



Perhaps you should have the NSA run the tourism board? The Soviet Union had a system like, and I think the KGB were one of the main agencies who made sure that the tourists didn't look at anything they shouldn't or wander off unattended.




Lucylastic -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 8:01:22 AM)

Not to mention the number of foreigners who travel to the US are not guilty of anything, to treat them as criminals from the day they step ito the country is absurd and a lot harder in a million fucking ways than blowboy has any clue about. fucking morons clearly dont think things through.
mircrochip visitors, LMFAO it does help with their shit credibility tho..




WhoreMods -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 8:18:07 AM)

Presumably most of the tourist revenues go to blue, rather than red States (New York and California are the two 'States to benefit the most from tourism, I'd imagine), so it's an industry that has to go because it's giving money to people who hate true American values. The same, presumably, also goes for any universities who might be subjected to financial stresses if foreign students who pay a lot more than the domestic students stop attending. Universities are hotbeds of lefty liberal nonsense and anti-American values, after all.




dcnovice -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 8:19:36 AM)

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(You're correct that it does raise certain interesting questions about legal rights, though. Still: Republicans. They've never given a shit about any of that sort of lefty nonsense, have they?)

Now, be fair.

Republicans care deeply and passionately about all that rights stuff--from conception all the way to birth.




mnottertail -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 8:22:39 AM)

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/why-the-us-still-cant-track-visitors-who-overstay-their-visas/498455/




WhoreMods -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 8:24:10 AM)

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bounty44 -> RE: 40% of immigrants come in planes . . . (1/27/2017 1:58:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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(You're correct that it does raise certain interesting questions about legal rights, though. Still: Republicans. They've never given a shit about any of that sort of lefty nonsense, have they?)

Now, be fair.

Republicans care deeply and passionately about all that rights stuff--from conception all the way to birth.


what does that sort of ridiculously naïve and untrue partisan hack stuff do for you?

people who believe such things look like juvenile fools.





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