jlf1961
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Hey! Let's ban Everyone and be super safe!
Ridiculous spin. It's religious persecution wrapped in the flag of what used to be America.
All the spin is coming from you alt left radicals. It's not even a ban, it is a temporary pause while better (common sense) screening processes can be put in place.
Okay, while I agree that better screening procedures are needed, I have but one very important question.
Why didn't he include the country from which everyone one of the hijackers on 9/11 come from? I mean his intent was to prevent Muslim radicals from entering the country.
Oh right, I forgot, we need Saudi Arabia's oil.
That being said, while I believe the 'temporary' ban is poorly worded, and even more poorly thought out, since he did not speak to the people that could have prevented the court challenges now being pursued, his choice of countries makes sense.
The challenges leveled are based on the wording, which included 'Muslim' which singles out one religion.
However, each of the seven countries share one common denominator.
As far as an effective government goes, they dont have one.
Each is in the middle of a protracted civil war, each rebel faction has strong ties to terrorist organizations or anti-american groups, and finally, the US embassies and consulates are so overwhelmed with visa requests that thorough back ground checks, considering the lack of infrastructure within the local governments that would make such checks possible, is almost non-existent.
One thing that I thought about the more I have read about this order, both in the news and on the US State Department website, is one over riding point.
Why include religion as a basis for the ban in the first place? Hell if it were me, I would have just said, I order a temporary halt of immigrants and travellers from those countries simply because there is no way in hell to tell if they have a criminal record, affiliated with anti American organizations, or even if they actually came from one of those countries.
As to the point of stopping refugees from Syria.
Anyone on these boards remember the Mariel Boat lift from Cuba in 1994?
These were 'refugees' officially, and everyone celebrated the fact that Castro was going to let them leave Cuba.
Turned out that a good number were prisoners (and not political) that he released from over crowded prisons. Along with the legitimate refugees, we got a good number of Cuba's sex offenders, drug smugglers, rapists, and violent criminals.
Yup, lets put a temporary stop on refugees from those countries until we find out exactly who or what we are getting. I dont care if they are Muslim, Catholic, Baptist or what.
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