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Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/30/2017 7:51:21 PM   
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Sally Yates was just fired for upholding her oath to defend the Constitution by a person who is violating that same oath. Our country is seriously fucked right now.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/donald-trump-immigration-order-department-of-justice/

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/30/2017 7:53:20 PM   
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Sally Yates was just fired for upholding her oath to defend the Constitution by a person who is violating that same oath. Our country is in serious trouble.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/donald-trump-immigration-order-department-of-justice/


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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/30/2017 8:11:39 PM   
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Strange how no one here was upset when president dumbo ears was shredding the Constitution every chance he got.

God bless Donald Trump.

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/30/2017 8:39:51 PM   
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How do you keep getting past the orderlies?

Feel free and point out all of these instances you refer to.

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/30/2017 9:25:38 PM   
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It's not like it's part of the AG's job to represent the administration in court or anything. Oh! Wait!

Utter clap-trap, refusing to uphold your constitutional duty, innit?



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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/30/2017 10:42:31 PM   
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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/30/2017 11:15:46 PM   
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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/30/2017 11:47:16 PM   
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There is no constitutional grounds. It does not specify that we have to take in anyone at all.

The spirit of the Constitution at the time of its writing though was that pretty much everyone was welcome, though a couple of people involved wanted to exclude Jews. That of course would never fly. But back then we had community law enforcement which included lynch mobs, and NOT the KKK, everyone had guns and quite frankly there was enough room that people were not constantly stepping on each others' toes all the time.

Things have changed. What has not changed is that the Constitution says little about immigration policy. It outlines a few things but gives no numbers, and for good reason. If we had a billion people in this country, would you let just anyone in ? Does any other country just let anyone in ?

Also realize that the US is one of the few countries that grants automatic citizenship to anyone born here. That means anchor babies, and as far as Muslims go, some of those anchor babies have become radicalized and attempted or committed acts of terror.

Of course the number is statistically insignificant, but then when you start your bullshit about gun control apply the same logic. If you want to play the numbers game, hospitals are more dangerous than texting while driving, drunk driving and a Vietnam every year. And this is medical mistakes folks, not just people they could not cure. Check the AMA figures if you don't believe me.

So that is not the point. The point is these people do not want to assimilate. And they are not being placed in bumfuct Kansas somewhere. They are being placed in population centers where a single bomb can kill many more. And places where rents are two grand a month for a shoebox.

Do we owe the a better life than they would otherwise had ? Perhaps. Maybe the OP is ignorant to this as well as many but the fact is that the US started the shit in Syria. Like in Iran i 1952 they found a small group of dissidents who were protesting, and NOT being abused AT THE TIME and funded the living shit out of them until they made a problem for the lawful government of that country. Why ? They needed a US friendly government there. They tried to do what they did in Ukraine but it didn't work this time, resulting in a bloody civil war financed by friend and foe alike.

And the misinformed talk about Russia destabilising Ukraine. Anyone who can do any logical analysis will scoff at that. Ukraine had a Russia friendly government until the US intervened ad now they have a US friendly government imposed upon them. Why would Russia fuck with them ? Why would Russia fuck with them after offering them a sweet deal that made the European offer to be a red headed stepchild look like dogshit ? You cannot answer that logically without the preise that the media and government lied. Oh dear, they lie ?

These Syrian refugees hate us. They have every reason to, the majority of them were happy enough with Assad. (and Assad DID NOT use the gas, per Porton Down, an expert in the matter, THAT is why Obama backed down though his detractors would have you think otherwise) We financed the destruction of their country and lifestyle, truthfully I don't see any reason for them wanting to come here except to get some revenge.

i don't really know what goes through a liberal mind, but I suspect NOTHING. When they locked up all the Japanese here during WWW2, you think it was just because they attacked Pearl Harbor ? No, the US goaded Japan into attacking with their embargos atc., actually really crippling that tiny island nation. Jews are ot the only ones who never forget. They had contact with their relatives back home and knew that a bowl of rice was ten bucks or whatever, because of US interference.

Would you take German and Japanese immigrants during WW2 ? Even the Jews, the US had plenty of land back then. They could have left Germany and the Nazi occupied territories, but nobody would take them, and that includes the US. That means the US was complicit at least in the holocaust.

Would you take in Iraqi refugees when the US was bombing their schools and hospitals ? Would you take in people whose entire families were killed by US weapons ? You know, the US really did Iraq a favor, they were temporarily at peace with one another because the US provided a common enemy. As Diane Feinstein worked diligently to take away our guns, Saddam passed them out to almost all Iraqis. Our welcoming as liberators was delivered in lead. And to this day it still isn't straightened out. I hope Gertrude Bell is on fire right now, because Iraq should be three countries. Some bitch draws lines on a map. You fucking people don't even know about Czeckoslovakia.

I admit my understanding of world history is not complete, but I have a valid point of view. I know what revenge is. It is a dish best served cold. Many many of these people do not want to assimilate, though refugee status is not necessarily a path to citizenship, they do not want to have a safe haven for now while we continue to wreck their country. They want to kill us.

They want to bring the war to US soil, because quite frankly we start the shit ad never see the consequences of what this government does. Obama's drones, OK. why do you want to come to the US ? Well a US drone killed my family, my Parents, Grandparents and my children and three of my cousins.

Bottom line, the President makes a rule to protect US citizens and this bitch will not enforce it. she needs to be fired immediately and it seems that is exactly what happened. good riddance. Just like the cunt that would not sign the marriage licenses for Gay couples, if you won't do your job, clean out your desk.

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 12:09:08 AM   
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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 12:26:37 AM   
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Strange how no one here was upset when president dumbo ears was shredding the Constitution every chance he got.

God bless Donald Trump.

Oh we were, that fucking w was a real shitbreather that nutsucker. And he was just about as fucking stupid as you were in his shredding of the constitution as you pounded your little peener.

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 12:28:19 AM   
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It's not like it's part of the AG's job to represent the administration in court or anything. Oh! Wait!

Utter clap-trap, refusing to uphold your constitutional duty, innit?



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No it isnt. It is to uphold and defend the constitution, otherwise they are no better than you nutsuckers.

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 2:04:54 AM   
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Sally Yates was just fired ...



Trump to his staff: "She just didn't have the boobs for it, you know? I'm all for women in this administration, but somebody please put a tape around their chest before we nominate them, OK?"




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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 2:36:42 AM   
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It's not like it's part of the AG's job to represent the administration in court or anything. Oh! Wait!

Utter clap-trap, refusing to uphold your constitutional duty, innit?

Michael


No it isnt. It is to uphold and defend the constitution, otherwise they are no better than you nutsuckers.

My understanding is limited, not being a US citizen and all.
But from what I heard in the news, including input from various US people interviewed, the job entails upholding and defending the constitution.
And if the constitution says that people cannot be denied entry by reason of nationality, race, colour or religion, then she has done exactly that.

If Trump wants to stop these people coming in, then surely he needs to charge them under some terrorist legislation?
Because without some specific charges to show they have broken the law, especially if they have a valid Visa or right to residence, they should not be refused entry.
As far as I'm aware, the president does not have the power, even with an EO, to override the constitution.

That's my take on it.


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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 2:38:22 AM   
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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 6:08:54 AM   
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In her confirmation hearing as AG, Sen. Jeff Sessions asked her specifically whether she would stand up to the president if asked to do an illegal action.

Seems some care about the law only when it restrains the opposition.

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 9:35:15 AM   
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In her confirmation hearing as AG, Sen. Jeff Sessions asked her specifically whether she would stand up to the president if asked to do an illegal action.

Seems some care about the law only when it restrains the opposition.

And how much did she stand up against Obama when he appointed heads to positions within his administration without congressional approval while the Senate was in session? The Supreme Court ruled unanimously that it was unconstitutional. Can you cite where it is mentioned that she stood up to the President then?

What Trump has done may be unpopular...though the last 5 President's have all done it in one way or another...but it is up to the Supreme Court to decide its constitutionality. Not a holdover from a liberal administration.

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 9:48:28 AM   
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We've all seen how the left treats its "heroes", has anyone seen Cindy Sheehan lately?

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 9:58:13 AM   
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Strange how no one here was upset when president dumbo ears was shredding the Constitution every chance he got.

God bless Donald Trump.



You really think God would bless his actions?

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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 10:00:17 AM   
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Sally Yates was just fired for upholding her oath to defend the Constitution by a person who is violating that same oath. Our country is seriously fucked right now.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/donald-trump-immigration-order-department-of-justice/
A hero? Really?

I guess next time I see a firefighter emerge from a burning building carrying a child and an elderly person on their back, I'll look at that individual and say, "You know that's almost as brave and courageous as a rich lawyer doing her job."

You're a fucking idiot.


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RE: Sally Yates is a Hero - 1/31/2017 10:05:54 AM   
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quote:

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Strange how no one here was upset when president dumbo ears was shredding the Constitution every chance he got.

God bless Donald Trump.



You really think God would bless his actions?

Butch


If you would pull your head out of your ass long enough to actually see what's going on around you, you might see that it's NOT a ban, just a chance to actually vet those that want to enter this country. What part of that do you find offensive?

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