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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Like it or not. Only Muslims from potential terrorist high risk countries were banned.

If that were the case, why isn't Saudi Arabia on the list, where most of the 9/11 hijackers came from? And why didn't the ban include any of the Muslim-majority countries where the Trumplethinskin has
business interests? They were all kept off the list.

You're an idiot, and an incorrect idiot at that.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Like it or not. Only Muslims from potential terrorist high risk countries were banned.

If that were the case, why isn't Saudi Arabia on the list, where most of the 9/11 hijackers came from? And why didn't the ban include any of the Muslim-majority countries where the Trumplethinskin has
business interests? They were all kept off the list.

You're an idiot, and an incorrect idiot at that.

Because back in 2001, Saudi was a high risk country.
Today's world. Saudi is no longer a high risk terrorist country.
I am 100% correct. This list is also compiled by Obama. So Obama himself did not identify Saudi Arabia as high risk.
Blame Obama why Saudi isn't included. Obama's team obviously also felt Saudi isn't high risk.

People keep forgetting this list was the list provided by Obama, base on his team's intelligence on the situation while he was President.

Trump didn't choose which countries to include or exclude. Obama set the blue print for it. He simply used Obama's list.

And it's not Trump's fault that Obama did not include all the countries where there are Trump's business interests.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: NotFiftyShades

it wasn't just muslims banned from these countries
EVERYONE was banned from these countries
smh

Except Christians. Check it out.

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https://de.usembassy.gov/visas/

Urgent Notice: Per U.S. Presidential Executive Order signed on January 27, 2017, visa issuance to aliens from the countries of Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen has been suspended effective immediately until further notification. If you are a national of one of these countries, please do not schedule a visa appointment or pay any visa fees at this time. If you already have an appointment scheduled, please DO NOT ATTEND your appointment as we will not be able to proceed with your visa interview.

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https://ie.usembassy.gov/executive-order-protecting-nation-terrorist-attacks-foreign-nationals/

Urgent Notice: Per U.S. Presidential Executive Order signed on January 27, 2017, visa issuance to aliens from the countries of Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen has been suspended until further notification.

If you are a national of one of these countries, please do not schedule a visa appointment or pay any visa fees at this time. If you already have an appointment scheduled, please DO NOT ATTEND your appointment as we will not be able to proceed with your visa interview.

The Executive Order does not restrict the travel of dual nationals, so long as they hold the passport of an unrestricted country and possess a valid U.S. visa. Our Embassies and Consulates around the world will process visa applications and issue nonimmigrant and immigrant visas to otherwise eligible visa applicants who apply with a passport from an unrestricted country, even if they hold dual nationality from one of the seven restricted countries.

Please note that certain travel for official governmental purposes, related to official business at or on behalf of designated international organizations, on behalf of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or by certain officials is not subject to this suspension.

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https://uk.usembassy.gov/updated-guidance-executive-order-protecting-nation-terrorist-attacks-foreign-nationals/
On January 27, 2017, President Trump signed an Executive Order temporarily suspending entry into the United States of foreign nationals from seven countries under section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Under the Executive Order, to allow for proper review and establishment of standards to prevent terrorist or criminal infiltration by foreign nationals, the Executive Order imposes on nationals of certain designated countries a 90-day bar on entry into the United States. This bar also includes a 90-day prohibition on visa issuance. These countries, as designated by Congress or the Secretary of Homeland Security, are: Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Iran, Somalia, Libya, and Yemen.

Beginning January 27, 2017, travelers who have nationality or dual nationality of one of these countries will not be permitted for 90 days to enter the United States or be issued an immigrant or nonimmigrant visa. Those nationals or dual nationals holding valid immigrant or nonimmigrant visas will not be permitted to enter the United States during this period. Visa interviews will generally not be scheduled for nationals of these countries during this period.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Actually, no.

The Bill was marked up by Michigan Republican Representative Candice S Miller. on January 6, 2015.

Despite what that showboat Trump pretends our president does not write Law.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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The truth about Trump's ban is, apparently, that he'd like to see an increase in Islamic terrorist attacks on Americans. Trump's move delights ISIS:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-isis-candidate-analysts-2016-9

Gay nightclubs provide observant Muslims with more recruitment material than probably anything else there is. What should be done about that

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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The truth about Trump's ban is, apparently, that he'd like to see an increase in Islamic terrorist attacks on Americans. Trump's move delights ISIS:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-isis-candidate-analysts-2016-9

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

What, more than Islamist fundamentalists being able to say 'Westerners despise us just because we're Muslims - look at the evidence of the new US president banning Muslims from countries, none of whose people have killed Americans '?

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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The truth about Trump's ban is, apparently, that he'd like to see an increase in Islamic terrorist attacks on Americans. Trump's move delights ISIS:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-isis-candidate-analysts-2016-9

So the delusions of a terrorist group say what exactly?

Honestly dude, you have no fucking idea how to reason, do you? Not one fucking clue.

I'd say I'm surprised, but you're a typical example of academic incompetence. It merely reinforces the "ideology over merit" approach of British academe.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

The truth about Trump's ban is, apparently, that he'd like to see an increase in Islamic terrorist attacks on Americans. Trump's move delights ISIS:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-isis-candidate-analysts-2016-9

So the delusions of a terrorist group say what exactly?

Honestly dude, you have no fucking idea how to reason, do you? Not one fucking clue.

I'd say I'm surprised, but you're a typical example of academic incompetence. It merely reinforces the "ideology over merit" approach of British academe.

Yeah, I'd hate to see what would happen if DAESH stopped being our friends ...

Obviously, our comrade from across the pond would have been a Chamberlain supporter?



Michael

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Actually, no.

The Bill was marked up by Michigan Republican Representative Candice S Miller. on January 6, 2015.

Despite what that showboat Trump pretends our president does not write Law.

The point is. The list came from Obama's administration and they did use that list to put more stringent checks on those Nationalities for a reason. Obviously Obama administration being democrats will not do drastic measures but they were still concern enough to do something about those 7 specific nations that they narrowed down.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

What, more than Islamist fundamentalists being able to say 'Westerners despise us just because we're Muslims - look at the evidence of the new US president banning Muslims from countries, none of whose people have killed Americans '?

No Americans have ever been killed by Iraqis? Or Iranians? Look, do you think about the stupidity you emit on a daily basis or are you really this mindbogglingly stupid?

No, wait - don't answer. It's readily apparent. You really are this mind-bogglingly stupid.

Don't bother replying you fucking idiot. It's obvious you can barely think.

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Yeah Peon's a big fan of appeasement. Appease the trans lobby, appease the feminists, appease the murderous Islamic hordes. I'd say he's taking his fetish for submission just a bit too far. Apparently Islam supposedly means "submission". No wonder he's got such a fucking hard-on for it.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

What, more than Islamist fundamentalists being able to say 'Westerners despise us just because we're Muslims - look at the evidence of the new US president banning Muslims from countries, none of whose people have killed Americans '?

No Americans have ever been killed by Iraqis? Or Iranians? Look, do you think about the stupidity you emit on a daily basis or are you really this mindbogglingly stupid?

No, wait - don't answer. It's readily apparent. You really are this mind-bogglingly stupid.

Don't bother replying you fucking idiot. It's obvious you can barely think.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

What, more than Islamist fundamentalists being able to say 'Westerners despise us just because we're Muslims - look at the evidence of the new US president banning Muslims from countries, none of whose people have killed Americans '?

No Americans have ever been killed by Iraqis? Or Iranians? Look, do you think about the stupidity you emit on a daily basis or are you really this mindbogglingly stupid?

No, wait - don't answer. It's readily apparent. You really are this mind-bogglingly stupid.

Don't bother replying you fucking idiot. It's obvious you can barely think.

If as Peon claims, any little bump in the road can set Muslims off on their throat-slashing, bomb throwing "Allahu Akbar" mass murdering fits... Why would we want them here

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

The truth about Trump's ban is, apparently, that he'd like to see an increase in Islamic terrorist attacks on Americans. Trump's move delights ISIS:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-isis-candidate-analysts-2016-9

So the delusions of a terrorist group say what exactly?

Honestly dude, you have no fucking idea how to reason, do you? Not one fucking clue.

I'd say I'm surprised, but you're a typical example of academic incompetence. It merely reinforces the "ideology over merit" approach of British academe.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

What, more than Islamist fundamentalists being able to say 'Westerners despise us just because we're Muslims - look at the evidence of the new US president banning Muslims from countries, none of whose people have killed Americans '?

No Americans have ever been killed by Iraqis? Or Iranians? Look, do you think about the stupidity you emit on a daily basis or are you really this mindbogglingly stupid?

No, wait - don't answer. It's readily apparent. You really are this mind-bogglingly stupid.

Don't bother replying you fucking idiot. It's obvious you can barely think.

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Yeah Peon's a big fan of appeasement. Appease the trans lobby, appease the feminists, appease the murderous Islamic hordes. I'd say he's taking his fetish for submission just a bit too far. Apparently Islam supposedly means "submission". No wonder he's got such a fucking hard-on for it.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

The truth about Trump's ban is, apparently, that he'd like to see an increase in Islamic terrorist attacks on Americans. Trump's move delights ISIS:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-isis-candidate-analysts-2016-9

Gay nightclubs provide observant Muslims with more recruitment material than probably anything else there is. What should be done about that

Wow! What a significant, prescient insight! One has to wonder about the type of mind that creates such gems as this. I say "creates" because as far as I am aware, there isn't a shred of evidence anywhere to support this claim, so it was created rather than arrived at as a conclusion after a long and rigourous examination of the relevant facts, which is the way most sensiblle and informed people arrive at their conclusions.

I wonder what made Bosco prioritise gay nightclubs as recruitment material over, say, the invasion of Iraq, the constant drone attacks in NW Pakistan and Yemen that kill thousands of civilians, the festering sore that is the never ending Israeli occupation of Palestine and brutal repression of Palestinians ... All of which seem far more likely candidates to me. Perhaps, in his ideologically driven haste to remove Western military aggression as a potential cause of Islamic terrorism, 'gay nightclubs' was the first potential explanation that entered his mind that wouldn't boomerang and highlight the very Western military aggression he was trying so hard to gloss over? It couldn't possibly be his own antipathy towards gays that caused him to gravitate so sharply and speedily towards gay behaviour in the US as a recruitment factor for Islamic terrorists, could it?

But perhaps he does have a point - after all the sight of so many buffed, well dressed and (shock horror gasp!) happy men does have certain effects on some people, effects that are not always the most positive and/or welcome effects imaginable. Perhaps we should pass the idea on to Mr Spicer at the White House, who seems to be having terrible problems articulating the new Administration's agenda and is in need of all the help he can get .... "Alternative" explanations seem to carry a premium in Washington these days.