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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Massachusetts would be fine. We have healthcare for everyone and have since Mitt Romney i believe. We have a good variety of tech based companies too.

Well yeah, after all that financial fraud and theft, and that flood of money from working people in other states to bail out Mass. and Boston's financial fraud and theft, it's easy to be magnificent, no? But the question from the OP has inherent thereby that your state is cut off from federal funds.

Oh my.

Just imagine Mississippi workers not having to work till 3 O'clock every fucking day to pay for your and other wealth-sucking state's theft and excess?

No bail outs, no financial sector subsidies, no oil subsidies..

It wouldn't go well, there, in your state.

Absence of Mass. and CA and NY , OTOH, would be a great boon to the nation.

Seriously, I don't know why some people think in terms of secession when far greater advantage to the country would be obtained by terms of judicious eviction.

I would miss you greatly, I have to say.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Are the differences so great that partisans don't want them solved? Will the US (eventually) split up?

How would your state/region fare?

California, New York, and Texas could probably make it as independent countries -- they have strong economies and sea ports, for example.

How would the split go? West Coast, Northeast, Texas, Heartland?

Here's where your state ranks by economy.

And here are the states compared to nations by economy.

Where would you fit?

And would you prefer a divided America?

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ORIGINAL: Edwird


If you ranked the level of financial bailouts and defense contracts and corporate welfare no longer obtainable as independent states, they would fall in quite a different order. And if ranking states by level of human limbs and foreclosed houses 'contributed' to the wealth destroying 'high ranking' states it would be jumbled all the more.

You don't read very well, do you?

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Are the differences so great that partisans don't want them solved? Will the US (eventually) split up?

How would your state/region fare?

California, New York, and Texas could probably make it as independent countries -- they have strong economies and sea ports, for example.

How would the split go? West Coast, Northeast, Texas, Heartland?

Here's where your state ranks by economy.

And here are the states compared to nations by economy.

Where would you fit?

And would you prefer a divided America?

It is assumed that if California tried to leave the rest of the states, there would be civil war. Yet there are actually several non-violent ways to bring California (or any state) to heel before such a thing.

First, it would need to be explained that their state, being in a state of rebellion would suffer consequences.
1. Freeze all CA based corporate and individual assets in the non-rebellious states.
2. All interstate water treaties are now null and void.
3. All interstate power transmission agreements are now null and void.
4. Sending treasury agents into the state to visit the various federally chartered banks starting with the multinationals and removing all currency from the state. The minute the state becomes aware of what is being done and starts opposing those efforts, cut the CA from the national and international banking system and let their economy die on the vine as well as cutting off the electricity and water and MAKE THEM turn over their leaders for trial and use every means possible to identify supporters of sedition, rebellions or insurrection and punish each and everyone of them to the maximum extent possible including loss of citizenship.


We would need to use the Monroe Doctrine to keep foreign powers such as N. Korea or China, out of California. This will allow time for the Californians to come to their senses.

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
If you ranked the level of financial bailouts and defense contracts and corporate welfare no longer obtainable as independent states, they would fall in quite a different order. And if ranking states by level of human limbs and foreclosed houses 'contributed' to the wealth destroying 'high ranking' states it would be jumbled all the more.

You don't read very well, do you?

You don't write very well. You need some punctuation. (as your post makes no sense)

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ORIGINAL: Edwird


Exactly.

Nixon and Reagan, for example.

Blue has such meaning in that state.

Navy Blue

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

I was thinking more about the California referendum whereby they relieved Chevron of any royalty payments. I forget what the referendum number was.

But let's be realistic, here.

If not for federal defense contracts and bailouts and other subsidies, the so-called 'blue states' would dry up overnight.

Only then would people from every other state step up and actually do something for society.

OK, maybe not those in Idaho or Montana, but the Southern states would be all over it, once the wealth-sucking Northern and Western sates were evicted.

Of course, that isn't going to happen.

You don't count on the predatory lenders and oil drillers relieving their grip on the country anytime soon, if looking at reality, here.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The nearly complete lack of discussion on the actual topic really exposes the amount of blindness in firmly grasping ideology.

If your state or region were a country -- not how you're pissed at Trump or celebrate Trump etc. -- not whether you'd actually want to do it -- not which ones you'd like to get rid of -- if YOUR state/region were a country, how would that work?

That's the topic. Please.

You want to bitch about current affairs, see all the other threads. Plenty of opportunity.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

RE: Will the US split (eventually)? How would your state/region fare?

Are the differences so great that partisans don't want them solved? Will the US (eventually) split up?

How would your state/region fare?

California, New York, and Texas could probably make it as independent countries -- they have strong economies and sea ports, for example.

How would the split go? West Coast, Northeast, Texas, Heartland?

Here's where your state ranks by economy.

And here are the states compared to nations by economy.

Where would you fit?

And would you prefer a divided America?