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Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 1:14:46 PM   
WickedsDesire


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Status: offline 		Rex Tillerson, the former chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, has been confirmed by the US Senate to become President Donald Trump’s secretary of state.

The Texas native, 64, was cleared for full Senate approval in a 56-43 vote.
The vote came after Senate Republicans changed the rules in order to approve Mr Trump's nominees for health and treasury, despite a Democratic boycott.

Mr Tillerson, who has never held political office, faced intense scrutiny over his ties to Russia....guffaws wtf Americashire?

What rules were changed and why - us haggis hunting savages do inquire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vabaSXcrxos Couldnt find the full scene, I miss Spartacus :( well season 1 anyways, and Gods of the Arena is an Excellent prequel…made after season 1.

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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 1:17:27 PM   
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simply trump draining the swamp and putting different pond scum in
greedier pond scum.


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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 1:31:42 PM   
WickedsDesire


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Bend the knee clip more apt wifey2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs4XR4fbY8U


baby dragons I loved that one too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rbn9pO0syA


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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 1:34:44 PM   
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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 1:39:06 PM   
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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 1:51:25 PM   
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Rex Tillerson, the former chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, has been confirmed by the US Senate to become President Donald Trump’s secretary of state.

The Texas native, 64, was cleared for full Senate approval in a 56-43 vote.
The vote came after Senate Republicans changed the rules in order to approve Mr Trump's nominees for health and treasury, despite a Democratic boycott.

Mr Tillerson, who has never held political office, faced intense scrutiny over his ties to Russia....guffaws wtf Americashire?

What rules were changed and why - us haggis hunting savages do inquire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vabaSXcrxos Couldnt find the full scene, I miss Spartacus :( well season 1 anyways, and Gods of the Arena is an Excellent prequel…made after season 1.

they changed the rules from 60/100 approval to 51/100 approval


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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 2:12:37 PM   
WickedsDesire


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Status: offline 		mnottertail thanks, truly. Means that whats his name is going to get in too then - Trump picks Neil Gorsuch as nominee for Supreme Court - that nutter.
okay so why did they not change it for Obama's pick

President Donald Trump has nominated Colorado federal appeals court judge Neil Gorsuch for the US Supreme Court.
If confirmed by the Senate, the 49-year-old would restore the court's conservative majority, lost with the death of Justice Antonin Scalia.
The Senate Democratic leader has said he has "very serious doubts" about Judge Gorsuch's nomination

Mr Trump said Judge Gorsuch had a "superb intellect, an unparalleled legal education, and a commitment to interpreting the Constitution according to text".
"Judge Gorsuch has outstanding legal skills, a brilliant mind, tremendous discipline, and has earned bipartisan support," Mr Trump said.

The court has the final legal word on many of the most sensitive US issues, from abortion to gender to gun control.

Former President Barack Obama had put forward Judge Merrick Garland after Justice Scalia's death last February.
But Republicans refused to debate the choice, saying it was too close to an election, which left Democrats embittered....no such rule exists dear readers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38813137


Explain wtf is wrong with you americashire Who new the Republican party were a bunch of weasels.

Oh dear. America



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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 2:47:08 PM   
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Think parliament or robts rules of orders.

I motion that we only need a simple majority to confirm, thereby change the standing rule that we need 60.
(so we can confirm Garland)
Tories? (they held the senate) nay!
Labour? (minority) aye!
the nays have it, the motion is not carried, it will be 60 votes.
(that is for effect. What really happened is the special committee that would take up the question to recommend to the full senate never put it on the agenda (having the majority) and when the motion was made in the committee to take up the question the majority voted it down)

here we are today, same setup Tories are the majority in the senate (and house)
I motion that we change the standing rule so we can fill the swamp with nutsuckers and destroy the country.
Tories? AYE!!!!!
Labour? Nay!

The ayes have it, the motion is carried.

Just like that. No wigs, no roundheads, nothing but nutsuckers as far as the eye can see.

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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 2:56:07 PM   
WickedsDesire


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Status: offline 		pees his pantaloons and again thanks So, not carried by 60..thats the bit i dont understand?...oh and what they said about Obama's pick.

So, Mein fuhrer and his Nazi army of complete pussies are rewriting the constitution? I think this is a road not to go down and yet they have. Madness has no end :(

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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 3:10:17 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		No, these are standing rules within the senate. Departures from Robts Rules of Order, and codified in accordance with same.

These are our rules for groups doing business. same as your parliament --I rise to a point of order and all that rot.

now the rules (including roberts rules of order (verion date and so on) are adopted by vote. deviations from those rules or additions to those rules are codified and adopted, all in line with the originating robts rules of order.

I would expect you would have to vote on a suspension or change of rules to have Cabbage enter the house of commons, but them blighters have been in there in times past.



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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 3:36:22 PM   
WickedsDesire


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Obama's pick 10 months until his doom was deemed invalid
12 days in to utter doom was deemed valid, and yet not, so they changed the rules.

I require an explanation

Do you believe i truly care who sits on your supreme court of utter stooge Muppets - no offense Kermit


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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 3:51:54 PM   
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Rex Tillerson, the former chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, has been confirmed by the US Senate to become President Donald Trump’s secretary of state.

The Texas native, 64, was cleared for full Senate approval in a 56-43 vote.
The vote came after Senate Republicans changed the rules in order to approve Mr Trump's nominees for health and treasury, despite a Democratic boycott.

Mr Tillerson, who has never held political office, faced intense scrutiny over his ties to Russia....guffaws wtf Americashire?

What rules were changed and why - us haggis hunting savages do inquire

The rules were changed in 2013 by Harry Reid.

Reid, who was majority leader at the time, used a parliamentary move known as the “nuclear option” to change a nearly 40-year-old Senate rule. The change meant that the Senate now needs only a simple majority of 51 votes — rather than a super-majority of 60 — to proceed to confirmation votes on Cabinet secretaries, agency directors and judges, except for the Supreme Court.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vabaSXcrxos Couldnt find the full scene, I miss Spartacus :( well season 1 anyways, and Gods of the Arena is an Excellent prequel…made after season 1.



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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 4:08:08 PM   
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I started watching that but didn't bring me back. When I run out of the rest, I may go back. Plus, I think it's been canceled.

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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 4:13:36 PM   
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I am led to believe these rules written for monsters by insane monsters

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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 4:18:10 PM   
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I think I was clear

Obama's pick 10 months until his doom was deemed invalid
12 days in to utter doom was deemed valid, and yet not, so they changed the rules.

I require an explanation

Do you believe i truly care who sits on your supreme court of utter stooge Muppets - no offense Kermit



Well the nutsuckers have been doing this sort of illegal shit for their life. The nutsucker Richard Tricky Dicky Nixon as President of the Senate judged that the rule that is very clear that rules can only be changed or suspended by prior notice and 2/3 vote could be changed by a simple majority, so that guy (like all nutsuckers) has been a crook for a lot longer than nutsuckers will admit. Clearly the Democrats should take the nutsucker goons and thugs to court. The nutsucker The red welfare state nutsucker Chester Trent in the closet Lott, coined the phrase nuclear option. He did not vote for the nutsucker criminal tricky dickys impeachment to proceed. The nutsuckers have been covering up their crimes since the founding of their party. Nutsucker goons and thugs are clothed in treason.

Harry Reid didnt change a 40 year old rule, the nutsuckers did. The rule has been in Robts Rules of Order since the 1860s and in the Parliamentary procedures we originally adopted for use in our congress since what? The 1600s? 1700s?

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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 4:27:28 PM   
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I think I was clear

Obama's pick 10 months until his doom was deemed invalid
12 days in to utter doom was deemed valid, and yet not, so they changed the rules.

I require an explanation

Do you believe i truly care who sits on your supreme court of utter stooge Muppets - no offense Kermit



60 votes is actually called cloture. It began when the senate created (anti-constitutionally) what has been known as a filibuster, to allow any senator to 'talk a bill to death' started by Cato in Rome 60 and 59 BC. That got him jailed for his troubles but that was then.

So unless 60 votes 'closed' debate one was invoking 'cloture' by requiring those 60 votes and eventually without even having to talk. So any bill at any senators discretion, could be held up with only 59 votes.

This was also employed whenever a minority of obviously 41 senators didn't agree with any cabinet member.or...any federal judge.

Then Reid and the dems by simple majority, changed the rules to a simple majority vote except for one...supreme court justice.

That's why Trump now says if the dems invoke cloture on Gorsuch, the repubs are to simply change the rules again to allow for a simple majority to put him on the court.

Oh and BTW, Obama's nomination of Judge Garland was not invalid, it was ignored and history may well call this latest appt....the stolen seat on the court...stolen by the repub majority, from Obama.

So you begin to see very simply, senate rules are great as well as the constitution is great...when it serves your interest. Not so great...when they don't. One need only look at the vacillation of Scalia's rulings which were quite constitutionally malleable, when it...suited his interest.

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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 4:28:00 PM   
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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 4:48:56 PM   
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I am led to believe the constitution is being rewritten by monsters to enable monsters

Well I knew it wouldn't take long but heard a caller on C-Span this AM call the dems treasonous for their opposition to Trumps EO's.

Never mind that everybody who opposed these last two wars were already traitors and of course all anyone has been, has been...in opposition. Which means that if opposition is treasonous then the American republic...is dead.

Recall how the great American creed was that ALL men are created equal and self-evidently endowed with inalienable rights endowed by his creator...NOT by govt.

Oh but now, in this great 'war on terrorism' men anywhere govt. chooses were NOT so self-evidently created as quite equal and [his] rights were no longer endowed upon him by his creator...but by govt. And you could be picked up and taken to GITMO...to prove it.

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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 5:02:25 PM   
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RE: Senate rules changed - explain please :) - 2/1/2017 6:40:16 PM   
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Oh and BTW, Obama's nomination of Judge Garland was not invalid, it was ignored and history may well call this latest appt....the stolen seat on the court...stolen by the repub majority, from Obama.

So you begin to see very simply, senate rules are great as well as the constitution is great...when it serves your interest. Not so great...when they don't. One need only look at the vacillation of Scalia's rulings which were quite constitutionally malleable, when it...suited his interest.


Everyone knows at this point that the Dems made it clear that no Republican lame duck would ever get a SC nominee through the Senate back when Bush was the lame duck, rather than Obama

http://www.politico.com/story/2007/07/schumer-to-fight-new-bush-high-court-picks-005146

But I don't expect you to be either informed or honest

And the seat on the SC belongs to the American people. The Republicans deferred to the voters after Alito passed away to choose the president who would select the person to fill the vacancy. Hillary and Trump both told the voters the type of judges they would choose (Trump even published a list and swore to choose from that list exclusively). The voters selected Trump to fill the vacancy, and the rest is soon to be history.



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