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Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 8:11:46 AM   
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A sobering read. | Emphases mine.

A week ago, men and women went to work at airports around the United States as they always do. They showered, got dressed, ate breakfast, perhaps dropped off their kids at school. Then they reported to their jobs as federal government employees, where, according to news reports, one of them handcuffed a 5-year-old child, separated him from his mother and detained him alone for several hours at Dulles airport.

At least one other federal employee at Dulles reportedly detained a woman who was traveling with her two children, both U.S. citizens, for 20 hours without food. A relative says the mother was handcuffed (even when she went to the bathroom) and threatened with deportation to Somalia.

At Kennedy Airport, still other federal employees detained and handcuffed a 65-year-old woman traveling from Qatar to visit her son, who is a U.S. citizen and serviceman stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C. The woman was held for more than 33 hours, according to the New York Times, and denied use of a wheelchair.


* * *

When we worry and wonder about authoritarian regimes that inflict cruelty on civilians, we often imagine tyrannical despots unilaterally advancing their sinister agendas. But no would-be autocrat can act alone. As a practical matter, he needs subordinates willing to carry out orders.

The men and women who reportedly handcuffed small children and the elderly, separated a child from his mother and held others without food for 20 hours, are undoubtedly "ordinary" people. What I mean by that, is that these are, in normal circumstances, people who likely treat their neighbors and co-workers with kindness and do not intentionally seek to harm others. That is chilling, as it is a reminder that authoritarians have no trouble finding the people they need to carry out their acts of cruelty. They do not need special monsters; they can issue orders to otherwise unexceptional people who will carry them out dutifully.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-airport-inhumanity-20170206-story.html


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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 8:21:17 AM   
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Like Marilyn Chambers said when she gargled Johnny the wad Holmes....its just another act.



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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 8:40:30 AM   
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Remind you of anyone's minions, say Hitler's.

When we worry and wonder about authoritarian regimes that inflict cruelty on civilians, we often imagine tyrannical despots unilaterally advancing their sinister agendas. But no would-be autocrat can act alone. As a practical matter, he needs subordinates willing to carry out orders. dcnovice
If you wrote that bit then I 100% agree with what you said and how you said it......subordinates - drones-minions would have been better

Now these figures are a good approximation
Death count on American soil from those 7 countires since 1971 are 0.
Death count by Americashire killing each other with guns since 1971 is ~1.3 million

Monster president screams security america is under siege

Slippernotes:
1. death on Americashire from those other 40 (predominately Muslim countries excluded from the ban in the last 40 years is ~5000
2. Business interests the utter nutter has, or buildings/hotels, in those seven countries = zero




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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 8:44:59 AM   
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The child wasn't handcuffed... the photo that is circulating is real, but the event didn't actually happen at Dulles because of the Muslim ban.
I'm obviously not defending the ban, here... but yeah, kinda disappointing to see that the rumor has made its way into legit news sources.

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 8:51:38 AM   
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Yeah, the Dulles boy was held away from his mother alone in a room for 4 hours with no representation or family protection. We dont know if he was or was not handcuffed. That picture is a child with learning disabilites handcuffed by police.

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 8:53:47 AM   
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This, from a Muslim apologist... Who hates the president, because he resists importing their cult practices here

quote:

ISIS unleash lady jihadi BITING BRIGADE armed with 'metal jaws' to tear women to death

ISIS's all lady jihadi brigade have been unleashed armed with "metal jaws" to bite other women to death for religious crimes.







Chilling stories have emerged of the actions of the Al-Khansa Brigade as ISIS are battled back across Mosul, in Iraq.

Al-Khansa is a female-only jihadi group who serve as the religious police for other women – insuring they adhere the strict moral rules laid down by ISIS.

The brigade have now been armed with a monstrous new "metal jaw" weapon used to torture other women to death.

Evil lady jihadis punish other women commiting crimes such as breastfeeding outside, not wearing black socks, or wearing high heels.



S revealed a girl named Faten, 10, was due to be punished for stepping of the threshold over her house alone.

Al-Khansa brigade jihadis demanded her mother choose who would receive the "biting" punishment – either her, or her daughter.

She agreed for the bite to be given to her daughter, but then the jihadi produced their vice-like "metal biting device".



"Thinking the bite would be a simple bite with teeth on the hand, the mother decided the daughter should receive the punishment," writes the Clarion Project.

"But the ISIS women produced a hideous metal biting device, with poison on the teeth. The device tore Faten’s flesh in various places.

"The poison didn’t even have time to do its job as Faten bled to death from the wounds."



The woman said: "I never felt like I was a human being. Why all of this black clothing?

"It’s like I’m getting into a bag and it’s closed on me so I can’t even breathe or enjoy the sun."

ISIS issued punishments to women for wearing shoes that are not black, carrying purses which were not black, and lifting a full face veil.

US President Donald Trump has promised to "crush and destroy ISIS" as the death cult continues to poison the Middle East.


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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 9:01:51 AM   
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LOL. Nutsucker nuze, its just flourishing in their felchgobble.

Nazi nutsuckers use jaws of death to murder a woman with a foreign sounding name; Knavs or something.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jaws+of+life+pictures&rlz=1C1NHXL_enUS726US726&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiyhbfDuv7RAhULwFQKHSpBCiwQ7AkINg&biw=1024&bih=487#imgrc=x8SwED76j4_HoM:

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 9:07:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

The child wasn't handcuffed... the photo that is circulating is real, but the event didn't actually happen at Dulles because of the Muslim ban.
I'm obviously not defending the ban, here... but yeah, kinda disappointing to see that the rumor has made its way into legit news sources.

Thanks for the heads-up.

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 9:19:44 AM   
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https://www.amazon.com/Unspeakable-Acts-Ordinary-People-Dynamics/dp/0520230396/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486487828&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=torture+ordinary+citizens

I read these books ages ago.

if you read any of these books, you will see the seed of all inhumanities minor to torture contained in ever human being.

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 9:48:05 AM   
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Smiles at boscox , trumps twitter spokescreature, what did I tell you about a correlation between bigo typo and being an utter fuking nutter and completely mental? Do not think for a moment I would not eradicate them and their sphere of influence

I can assure you Stirling castle (the best views from that one) and Edinburgh castle are not worth the entrance fee....Do they still have the odd fetish night in Edinburgh Dungeons any of you lot - they had some eye watering torture devices on show from not so long ago at B and mnottertail - not the type of book I would read myself

edit in a bit while i find some castle pictures

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 9:56:36 AM   
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If memory serves, is not the Uk's Daily Star their version of the National Enquirer?

I mean some of their headlines sound about the same.

And of course, I notice that the National Enquirer had the headlines "Hillary Clinton flees country to avoid arrest."

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 10:10:45 AM   
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Pretend they're Catholic nuns then, running a charity if that's your thing

ISIS atrocities

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 10:20:40 AM   
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Pretend they are patriots then. Felchgobbling which is your thing

Nutsucker atrocities

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 10:23:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Pretend they're Catholic nuns then, running a charity if that's your thing

ISIS atrocities



Bosco, you sir would make an idiot look like Einstein.




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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 10:29:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Pretend they're Catholic nuns then, running a charity if that's your thing

ISIS atrocities



Bosco, you sir would make an idiot look like Einstein.






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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 10:37:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

If memory serves, is not the Uk's Daily Star their version of the National Enquirer?

It isn't quite so classy. I suspect you're thinking of the Sunday Sport, which is more dedicated to absurd lunacy (and big tits) than a political agenda.
The Star is more a third rate copy of the Mirror that's now being pushed as a replacement for the New Of The World.

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 2:47:45 PM   
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Daily Star?
might as well read alex jones..... the original info came from the clarion project, which is basically the place for muslim haters to go and fuel up their testosterone to dumb as fuck level. Consider the source....


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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 4:08:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Daily Star?
might as well read CNN, NPR, the New York Times or MSNBC



FIFY

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 4:36:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

A sobering read. | Emphases mine.

A week ago, men and women went to work at airports around the United States as they always do. They showered, got dressed, ate breakfast, perhaps dropped off their kids at school. Then they reported to their jobs as federal government employees, where, according to news reports, one of them handcuffed a 5-year-old child, separated him from his mother and detained him alone for several hours at Dulles airport.

At least one other federal employee at Dulles reportedly detained a woman who was traveling with her two children, both U.S. citizens, for 20 hours without food. A relative says the mother was handcuffed (even when she went to the bathroom) and threatened with deportation to Somalia.

At Kennedy Airport, still other federal employees detained and handcuffed a 65-year-old woman traveling from Qatar to visit her son, who is a U.S. citizen and serviceman stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C. The woman was held for more than 33 hours, according to the New York Times, and denied use of a wheelchair.


* * *

When we worry and wonder about authoritarian regimes that inflict cruelty on civilians, we often imagine tyrannical despots unilaterally advancing their sinister agendas. But no would-be autocrat can act alone. As a practical matter, he needs subordinates willing to carry out orders.

The men and women who reportedly handcuffed small children and the elderly, separated a child from his mother and held others without food for 20 hours, are undoubtedly "ordinary" people. What I mean by that, is that these are, in normal circumstances, people who likely treat their neighbors and co-workers with kindness and do not intentionally seek to harm others. That is chilling, as it is a reminder that authoritarians have no trouble finding the people they need to carry out their acts of cruelty. They do not need special monsters; they can issue orders to otherwise unexceptional people who will carry them out dutifully.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-airport-inhumanity-20170206-story.html




I hate to say it, but isn't this all rather normal for the TSA? They are rather known for treating all people terribly.

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RE: Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump - 2/7/2017 4:50:27 PM   
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i read the ny times piece, and if every thing there is true, some of its terribly unfortunate and disheartening.

yet at the same time then, the cautionary tale of authoritarianism is lost on the left---unless someone from the "other side" is somehow involved in it.


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