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mnottertail -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/11/2017 5:36:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka So should someone on a ventilator and feeding tube be called a corpse? are they comatose or awake, there are people on ventilators and feeding tubes awake. If not, they could be called stanley for all I give a fuck, what would you call them?

BoscoX -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/11/2017 5:44:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Ok fine. I don't see Muslims living in the US following these laws either. Do you? Ever see a woman in a burka? Sharia Law is central to their cult, so... Yeah, and no. Many practicing Muslims push for it as hard as possible, but some aspects are obviously illegal here. Islam itself is totally incompatible with Western values... In some Western nations Muslims get quite a lot of Sharia law implemented, and with enough Muslims (practicing Muslims) it is going to happen, one way or another, to some extent. One of the main 'hate Trump voters' Pussy hat march organizers is a huge Sharia Law proponent. Ironic, that a "women's rights" movement is pushing to enslave women, isn't it? Some states have been banning it as much as possible. But they can't ban all of it due to our own Constitution, and who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/11/2017 5:47:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Okay, you endeavor to be a reasonable person, so I will break it down for you a little more. You are saying that IF Christians believed in what they don't, the laws of Deuteronomy etc... You infer that they don't know their own religion, that they are being unreasonable because they don't follow "their" "Christian" books that precede the New Testament And then you follow that with the "logic" that if they had half a clue about what they believed in, they would be like Muslims in their blood lust I am telling you that they know full well what they believe and why, and why they don't follow Deuteronomy etc - much better than you do. They have perfectly good, reasoned, logical explanations based on scripture for what they believe. I don't personally follow any of it but I respect them because they are not only non-violent, but they spawn charities, and are generally very personally charitable people who do not as a rule look down on non-Christians. They are (mostly) staying up with modern times, those who don't are perfectly harmless, even kind loving people Butch is even trying to claim that a "true" Christian would open the floodgates to the Muslim hordes and allow everyone he loves to be consumed by THEIR desire, to destroy everyone who refuses to convert in horrific (terrorist) fashion No... I said nothing of the sort. Read my post... I never used the word "believe" in that sentence. My point was, depending on what one includes (I used the word "include") in one's definition of Christianity (Hebrew law IN or Out), Christianity could be similar to Islam (in scripture, not exactly practice). I never inferred (I think you meant implied), or implied that anyone did not know in what he/she believed. You, on the other hand, erroneously inferred this line of reasoning from my post.

vincentML -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/11/2017 9:21:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 hey troll---a fetus is a "the child in utero." thats from taber's cyclopedic medical dictionary. in mosby's its "the human being in utero after the embryonic period." (please note a "child" is a human being, which renders the two medical dictionaries essentially the same) utero means to "relating to the uterus." so the CHILD, or HUMAN BEING, not being born yet, can rightly be called "an unborn child." further, apart from tamaka already spanking you semantically, lemme pile on. doctors and professors of medicine and other medical professionals use the term "fetus" or "baby" or "unborn child" interchangeably depending on the audience at hand and most importantly in reference to the exact same thing. Dictionaries hold very little influence on legal definitions. We need to look at case law, Court opinions, and AND LAW JOURNALS. As a result of its self-professed inability to decide when the life a human being begins, the Supreme Court rendered its 1973 abortion decision without considering whether unborn children are living human beings." Implicit in this decision is the finding that unborn children are not protected as persons under the Fourteenth Amendment. [SNIP SNIP] The current policy originated in the Tennessee Supreme Court case of Davis v. Davis. In Davis, a dispute regarding the custody of frozen embryos arose between a husband and wife, who after undergoing an in vitro fertilization procedure could no longer agree on the disposition of their frozen embryos. To define the "interest" that the litigants held in the embryos, the Tennessee Supreme Court relied on a report published by the Ethics Committee of the American Fertility Society. In this report, the Ethics Committee defined an embryo as distinct from a preembryo, based on medical science and legal precedents. According to the report, "[the preembryonic stage is considered to last until 14 days after fertilization."Moreover, their consensus concerning the preembryo status is that the preembryo deserves greater respect than that accorded to mere human tissue because of its potential to become a person, "but not the respect accorded to actual persons." The Davis court agreed with the Committee Report, holding that preembryos are not, "strictly speaking either persons or property" but occupy an interim category that entitles them to special respect because of their potential for life. As a result of this decision, our understanding of natural, as well as non-coital reproduction now includes a preembryo-embryo distinction and a policy that has been defined by the medical community and sanctioned by the courts. This distinction and policywill likely apply to all new techniques for non-coital reproduction including the currently controversial prospect of human cloning. Moreover, it is plain to see how this decision, as all progeny of Roe, work to further solidify the exclusion of the unborn from the rights and privileges accorded to all other persons under the Fourteenth Amendment. If an adjustment in policy is to be made, it must, therefore,begin with an examination of those who do qualify as persons under the Fourteenth Amendment.

vincentML -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/11/2017 9:24:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka So should someone on a ventilator and feeding tube be called a corpse? are they comatose or awake, there are people on ventilators and feeding tubes awake. If not, they could be called stanley for all I give a fuck, what would you call them? They are still persons, I think, whether awake or not. f-MRI shows there is still brain activity in deep comatose patients.

mnottertail -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 4:35:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Ok fine. I don't see Muslims living in the US following these laws either. Do you? Ever see a woman in a burka? Sharia Law is central to their cult, so... Yeah, and no. Many practicing Muslims push for it as hard as possible, but some aspects are obviously illegal here. Islam itself is totally incompatible with Western values... In some Western nations Muslims get quite a lot of Sharia law implemented, and with enough Muslims (practicing Muslims) it is going to happen, one way or another, to some extent. One of the main 'hate Trump voters' Pussy hat march organizers is a huge Sharia Law proponent. Ironic, that a "women's rights" movement is pushing to enslave women, isn't it? Some states have been banning it as much as possible. But they can't ban all of it due to our own Constitution, and who knows what goes on behind closed doors. Well, are they banning nuns habits or child molesting priests, or they are just worried about burkas?

BoscoX -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 6:07:05 AM)
The point is, your desperate attempts to equate the two with your absurd mental gymnastics is pathetic

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 6:54:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX The point is, your desperate attempts to equate the two with your absurd mental gymnastics is pathetic Re-reading the Original post. Greta was referring to which religion promotes violence more (I am assuming, she meant currently). In that context, there is no comparison. Not even close to equation. However, in that context, all the cites in this thread of Scripture and Sharia Law are moot. We are talking CURRENT practice, not scripture. In practice, and in the context of currently promoting violence, Islam is one religion that stands out.

BoscoX -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 7:39:44 AM)
Thank you. Is it a religion or a cult. According to the Koran, if one refuses to join or 'believe" the penalty is death. And if a member tries to leave, the penalty is death. The punishment for leading someone away from Islam is also death

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 7:52:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 We are talking CURRENT practice, not scripture. In practice, and in the context of currently promoting violence, Islam is one religion that stands out. Let me slightly rephrase this statement: In practice, and in the context of currently promoting violence, Islam is one religion that stands out *in the name of which violence is promoted or carried out.*

thompsonx -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 8:31:26 AM)
ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 We are talking CURRENT practice, not scripture. In practice, and in the context of currently promoting violence, Islam is one religion that stands out. For a person with sparks of reality in some of their post you seem to have been asleep at the switch on this one. Christians are in the mid east killing muslims with all manner of weaponry and the muslims are doing this where? Do you not read the papers or listen to faux snooze. Daily they speak of our attacks on the muslims.

thompsonx -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 8:34:23 AM)
ORIGINAL: BoscoX Thank you. Is it a religion or a cult. According to the Koran, if one refuses to join or 'believe" the penalty is death. You are soo full of shit sanity. Consider all the jews who lived in spain for hundreds of years under muslim rule who were snuffed by the catholics during the inquisition.

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 8:39:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 We are talking CURRENT practice, not scripture. In practice, and in the context of currently promoting violence, Islam is one religion that stands out. For a person with sparks of reality in some of their post you seem to have been asleep at the switch on this one. Christians are in the mid east killing muslims with all manner of weaponry and the muslims are doing this where? Do you not read the papers or listen to faux snooze. Daily they speak of our attacks on the muslims. I have not heard of anyone in the mideast CURRENTLY killing muslims in the name of Christianity. Please cite your source. If you are referring to U.S. armed forces (who are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, and many other religions) attacking ISIS, I can't see any religious group that identifies itself with Christianity driving these attacks. I believe they were directed by our former (and possibly our current) president.

thompsonx -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 9:25:22 AM)
ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 ORIGINAL: thompsonx I have not heard of anyone in the mideast CURRENTLY killing muslims in the name of Christianity. Please do not act obtuse with me young man. If you are referring to U.S. armed forces (who are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, and many other religions) attacking ISIS, I can't see any religious group that identifies itself with Christianity driving these attacks. Obviously you see what you choose to see. This raises a larger question. Why do you come to a discussion board in a state of abject ignorance? About 7 out of 10 (69.8%) active-duty service members identified as Christian in 2014, according to the Defense Department. 4,728 Jews 3,709 muslims 12,764 athiest The amerikan military is abouit 1.5 million. The jews,muslims and athiest you mention number less than 21,000. I will let you do the math The u.s. senate and house is over 90% christian. http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/april/atheists-outnumber-southern-baptists-in-us-military.html http://www.pewforum.org/2017/01/03/faith-on-the-hill-115/

thompsonx -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 3:32:01 PM)
ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 ORIGINAL: thompsonx Right about now would be the time that an ethical person would thank me for disabusing them of their ignorance.

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 4:23:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 ORIGINAL: thompsonx I have not heard of anyone in the mideast CURRENTLY killing muslims in the name of Christianity. Please do not act obtuse with me young man. If you are referring to U.S. armed forces (who are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, and many other religions) attacking ISIS, I can't see any religious group that identifies itself with Christianity driving these attacks. Obviously you see what you choose to see. This raises a larger question. Why do you come to a discussion board in a state of abject ignorance? About 7 out of 10 (69.8%) active-duty service members identified as Christian in 2014, according to the Defense Department. 4,728 Jews 3,709 muslims 12,764 athiest The amerikan military is abouit 1.5 million. The jews,muslims and athiest you mention number less than 21,000. I will let you do the math The u.s. senate and house is over 90% christian. http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/april/atheists-outnumber-southern-baptists-in-us-military.html http://www.pewforum.org/2017/01/03/faith-on-the-hill-115/ These numbers seem about accurate. So? Is that the totality of your point? The vast majority of the U.S. military identifies as Christian? Please cite (as requested in the previous post): The event where a U.S. military action in the Middle East was directed by a Christian organization (e.g. Church) in the name of Christianity. A) Name of the Christian Org B) Date of the military action

thompsonx -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 4:57:07 PM)
ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 ORIGINAL: thompsonx I have not heard of anyone in the mideast CURRENTLY killing muslims in the name of Christianity. Please do not act obtuse with me young man. If you are referring to U.S. armed forces (who are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, and many other religions) attacking ISIS, I can't see any religious group that identifies itself with Christianity driving these attacks. Obviously you see what you choose to see. This raises a larger question. Why do you come to a discussion board in a state of abject ignorance? About 7 out of 10 (69.8%) active-duty service members identified as Christian in 2014, according to the Defense Department. 4,728 Jews 3,709 muslims 12,764 athiest The amerikan military is abouit 1.5 million. The jews,muslims and athiest you mention number less than 21,000. I will let you do the math The u.s. senate and house is over 90% christian. http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/april/atheists-outnumber-southern-baptists-in-us-military.html http://www.pewforum.org/2017/01/03/faith-on-the-hill-115/ [/quote] These numbers seem about accurate. So? Is that the totality of your point? The vast majority of the U.S. military identifies as Christian? Please cite (as requested in the previous post): The event where a U.S. military action in the Middle East was directed by a Christian organization (e.g. Church) in the name of Christianity. A) Name of the Christian Org B) Date of the military action You clearly are that phoquing stupid. A christian congress and a christian senate and a christian president send a christian army to the sand box. Has sanity got his hand up your ass also? Jesaus you are phoquing stupid.

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 4:59:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Jesaus you are phoquing stupid. Well, she may be stupid, but she is tight, and she is quite moist, and she moans a LOT. :)

thompsonx -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 5:04:07 PM)
ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 ORIGINAL: thompsonx I have not heard of anyone in the mideast CURRENTLY killing muslims in the name of Christianity. Please do not act obtuse with me young man. If you are referring to U.S. armed forces (who are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, and many other religions) attacking ISIS, I can't see any religious group that identifies itself with Christianity driving these attacks. Obviously you see what you choose to see. This raises a larger question. Why do you come to a discussion board in a state of abject ignorance? About 7 out of 10 (69.8%) active-duty service members identified as Christian in 2014, according to the Defense Department. 4,728 Jews 3,709 muslims 12,764 athiest The amerikan military is abouit 1.5 million. The jews,muslims and athiest you mention number less than 21,000. I will let you do the math The u.s. senate and house is over 90% christian. http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/april/atheists-outnumber-southern-baptists-in-us-military.html http://www.pewforum.org/2017/01/03/faith-on-the-hill-115/ [/quote] These numbers seem about accurate. So? You said: I can't see any religious group that identifies itself with Christianity driving these attacks. An army of christians does not constitute a religious group of christians, yet an army of muslims does constitute a religious group of muslims???? English not your native language or are you just weapons grade stupid?

thompsonx -> RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam (2/12/2017 5:08:42 PM)
ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 ORIGINAL: thompsonx Jesaus you are phoquing stupid. Well, she may be stupid, but she is tight, and she is quite moist, and she moans a LOT. :) I can rent a professional whore and not have to listen to the mind numbing stupidity that issues from her mouth.

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