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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

The problem with the French is that they don't want the responsibility of doing anything.

If the migrants are there illegally, they should register them or deport them.
But they don't want to do either.
They would sooner shuffle them around and let them escape to the UK and let us deal with them.
That is blatantly obvious by letting the camp at Calais exist for sooo long.
When the locals kicked up such a fuss, they just moved them a tad further up the coast to Dunkirk and provide regular buses to ferry them to/from Calais.

They are a disgrace to the EU laws and processes.

Can you tell us once again why france is responsible for g.b boarder security.

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ORIGINAL: PeggyO

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

You can claim anything on the Internet, doesn't make anything you post true, or credible.

What proof of my background would be sufficient for you? Post a copy of my French drivers license, my parents French passports, what? I somehow have the feeling that there is nothing I could do that would prove to you the veracity of my experiences, because they refute what you already think you know is true. But that is an honest question. What level of proof would be acceptable to you to show you that I have actually lived in France for many years, that my parents are French, that I am bilingual in French, and that I have actually spent time in these theoretical no-go zones, where I shouldn't have been able to go at all, let alone spend any significant amount of time.

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ORIGINAL: PeggyO

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

You can claim anything on the Internet, doesn't make anything you post true, or credible.

What proof of my background would be sufficient for you? Post a copy of my French drivers license, my parents French passports, what? I somehow have the feeling that there is nothing I could do that would prove to you the veracity of my experiences, because they refute what you already think you know is true. But that is an honest question. What level of proof would be acceptable to you to show you that I have actually lived in France for many years, that my parents are French, that I am bilingual in French, and that I have actually spent time in these theoretical no-go zones, where I shouldn't have been able to go at all, let alone spend any significant amount of time.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

except for people living in those countries actually do give testimony these things are happening.

that has been said and shown to you repeatedly.

must be tough to be you, not knowing how to think and all.

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ORIGINAL: alphabottom
I realize that talking to someone who has lived there extensively and still has family there isn't good enough for you to believe in the face of things that support your beliefs. I'm just telling you what my experiences are.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i saw what you wrote, and I responded to it. I also made a subsequent post to my point.

further, things I have posted prior are not overcome/debunked/made null, by your own testimony or experiences. ive addressed that.

ive also posted plenty of things you have not addressed at all.

before you accuse someone else of an academic lack of integrity, you do well to look to your own reading.

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ORIGINAL: PeggyO

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i saw what you wrote, and I responded to it. I also made a subsequent post to my point.

further, things I have posted prior are not overcome/debunked/made null, by your own testimony or experiences. ive addressed that.

ive also posted plenty of things you have not addressed at all.

before you accuse someone else of an academic lack of integrity, you do well to look to your own reading.

The academic in question has been debunked in plenty of places. I don't need to reiterate that. The fact is that the no go zones don't exist in France. If they did, how could I possibly wander through them without anything happening to me? Because supposedly non Moslems can't go there - certainly not a woman traveling alone without a hijab......

And my experiences are hardly unique.

I would suggest understanding what the ZSU actually are......

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They are all in a 25-strong street gang called Osseghem. “Nothing much happens here,” he said, innocently. “Although the police sometimes chase us – they think we’re all Islamists.”

Perhaps with good reason: Molenbeek has been connected to almost all of Belgium’s terrorism-related incidents in recent years. Moroccan national Ayoub el-Khazzani, who opened fire with a Kalashnikov on a high-speed Thalys train in August had lived in Molenbeek. French-Algerian Mehdi Nemmouche, who killed four people at the Jewish Museum in Brussels last year, spent time in the area. And the two suspected terrorists killed by Belgian police in a shootout in the eastern town of Verviers in January were from Molenbeek.

Like gang violence, Islamic radicalism has fed on Molenbeek’s marginalisation, despair and festering resentment of authority. Police say the most dangerous among around 30 Brussels gangs come from Molenbeek.

Brice De Ruyver, who spent eight years as security adviser to then-Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt, said Molenbeek suffers from a cocktail of problems. “Youths are poorly educated, attracted by petty crime, have run-ins with police, and then there is a vicious circle, which leads to recruitment by radical groups,” he said, adding that the problems are now so serious, that it is hard to find police willing to bother tackling them.

“We don’t officially have no-go zones in Brussels, but in reality, there are, and they are in Molenbeek.”

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The president of the German Police Union, Rainer Wendt, told Spiegel Online years ago: “In Berlin or in the north of Duisburg there are neighborhoods where colleagues hardly dare to stop a car — because they know that they’ll be surrounded by 40 or 50 men.” These attacks amount to a “deliberate challenge to the authority of the state — attacks in which the perpetrators are expressing their contempt for our society.”

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The newspaper Bild describes parts of Berlin, Hamburg, and elsewhere as “burgeoning ghettos, parallel societies and no-go areas.”

The Rheinische Post reports that numerous parts of North Rhine–Westphalia fall into this category

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The main threat posed by the West’s mass acceptance of immigrant populations from sharia cultures is not that some percentage of the migrants will be trained terrorists. It is that a much larger percentage of these populations is stubbornly resistant to assimilation. They are thus fortifying sharia enclaves throughout Europe. That is what fuels the jihad…

To be sure, the infiltration of trained terrorists is a huge problem; even a small percentage would compute to thousands of jihadists within the swarms of migrants. Alas, that is a secondary concern. The bigger threat is the enclaves. These are not merely parallel societies in which the law and mores of the host countries are supplanted by Islamic law and Islamist mores. Even residents who are not jihadists tend to be jihadist sympathizers — or, at least, to be intimidated into keeping any objections to themselves. That turns these neighborhoods into safe havens for jihadist recruitment, training, fund-raising, and harboring.

Recall the horrific November 2015 Paris attacks, in which 130 were killed. The atrocities spurred what was said to be a tireless transcontinental manhunt. When Salah Abdeslam, one of the main culprits, evaded capture for four months, it was assumed that he must have made his way to Syria, rejoining his ISIS confederates. But in mid March, he was captured in Belgium, just a few paces from his family home in Brussels’s Molenbeek district. He had been moving with relative ease from safe-house to safe-house. Belgium does not admit that it has so-called no-go zones, where Islamists challenge the authority of the host country to govern. Belgians were not surprised to hear it. Molenbeek is a notorious Islamist enclave. As the Independent reported, the neighborhoods there are a “magnet for jihadists,” and the community, home to many Moroccan and Turkish immigrants, “has been connected to almost all of Belgium’s [several] terrorism-related incidents in recent years.”