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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 8:48:50 AM   
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http://usuncut.com/politics/senator-destroys-republicans-on-veterans-healthcare/
http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/19356/how-1-4-billion-in-budget-cuts-will-impact-veterans/
Or this
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/469/
edited to add....
or this
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/10/29/nearly-1-million-vets-face-food-stamps-cut.html

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 8:55:31 AM   
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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 9:02:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		how about getting rid of the waste that the VA is doing spending money on nothing, giving major bonuses to top level staff who are causing the back log at the hospitals. Trump says he wants to give vets the rights to see outside doctors who cant get appointments at the hospitals. get rid of the waste in the hospital administrations that will free up the funds to treat the vets

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 9:24:50 AM   
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Come on! The VA needs to spend a few million dollars for art to make the hospitals a place where people want to go and spend their day, waiting to be serviced. [/sarcasm]

The VA is a mess and has been for easily forty years.



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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 10:40:45 AM   
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Come on! The VA needs to spend a few million dollars for art to make the hospitals a place where people want to go and spend their day, waiting to be serviced. [/sarcasm]

The VA is a mess and has been for easily forty years.

How would you know you do not rate v.a. access.

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 10:47:09 AM   
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how about getting rid of the waste that the VA is doing spending money on nothing, giving major bonuses to top level staff who are causing the back log at the hospitals.

How about you document your ignorant unsubstantiated opinions. Tell us who is getting these "major"bonuses? Or are you just running your mouth to hear your voice echo in the shower?

Trump says he wants to give vets the rights to see outside doctors who cant get appointments at the hospitals.


That program was put in place by the big eared articulate guy. Dumb don and the deplorables put a hiring freeze on the doctors and nurses that care for the cannon fodder that wasnt politically correct enough to die of their wounds. On the other hand he did not stop the funding to pay to hire fresh prospecxtive cannon fodder.

get rid of the waste in the hospital administrations that will free up the funds to treat the vets

Talk is cheap how about you validate your shit or shut the phoque up.


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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 11:04:09 AM   
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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 2:16:26 PM   
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Not every important issue is a reaction to a news story.
The VA has long been understaffed -- by thousands. And underfunded.
When do we address this? Or is the message "Fuck Veterans' Care"?


Okay, so nothing new.

Most of the time when people accuse one side of opposing something, it's in response to some vote on some bill that gets twisted away from the actual truth. Since here wasn't any current event that brought this thread up, it's probably little more than grandstanding.

What makes you think the GOP is opposed to Veteran's health care? If the VA has long been understaffed and underfunded (which we agree on, btw), then wouldn't it also follow that the Democrats are also opposed to Veteran's health care, since they have also had times when they controlled both chambers of Congress and the Presidency at the same time?

If you'd like to discuss specifics, we can, but you'll have to be more specific to begin with.


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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 4:30:54 PM   
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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 4:40:00 PM   
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Okay, so nothing new.

Wrong dumbass...money was in the pipeline for the v.a. and dumb don and the deplorables put a hiring freeze into effect except for new cannon fodder but cut off the money for those not politically correct enough to die of their wounds.

Most of the time when people accuse one side of opposing something, it's in response to some vote on some bill that gets twisted away from the actual truth. Since here wasn't any current event that brought this thread up, it's probably little more than grandstanding.

Only if you ignore the facts, which is prettty common with you.

What makes you think the GOP is opposed to Veteran's health care?

Pretty simple dumbass...I have mentioned it before. There are 40,000- jovb openings for doctors and nurses in the v.a. system and dumb don and the deplorables put a hiring freeeze on it.

If the VA has long been understaffed and underfunded (which we agree on, btw),


You may agree on that but no mater your girth you aint a we...you are just you.
The money was allocated and dumb don and the deplorables stoped it.


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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 5:45:03 PM   
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my very charge to him at the outset...


I had to see if there was something that had just happened, so I could analyze it before responding.


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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/16/2017 5:58:37 PM   
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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/17/2017 8:47:42 AM   
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Come on! The VA needs to spend a few million dollars for art to make the hospitals a place where people want to go and spend their day, waiting to be serviced. [/sarcasm]

The VA is a mess and has been for easily forty years.



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OK. Would you be in favor of eliminating it but paying for Veterans' health care?

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/17/2017 8:50:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Not every important issue is a reaction to a news story.
The VA has long been understaffed -- by thousands. And underfunded.
When do we address this? Or is the message "Fuck Veterans' Care"?


Okay, so nothing new.

Most of the time when people accuse one side of opposing something, it's in response to some vote on some bill that gets twisted away from the actual truth. Since here wasn't any current event that brought this thread up, it's probably little more than grandstanding.

What makes you think the GOP is opposed to Veteran's health care? If the VA has long been understaffed and underfunded (which we agree on, btw), then wouldn't it also follow that the Democrats are also opposed to Veteran's health care, since they have also had times when they controlled both chambers of Congress and the Presidency at the same time?

If you'd like to discuss specifics, we can, but you'll have to be more specific to begin with.


Don't get stuck on a loop like bounty -- I conceded that point early on page 1, and altered the question to why then we're all opposing it (at the Congressional level) if in fact that's the case. Bounty is pretending that never happened to allow continually hiding behind the partisan crap in pretense of abhorring it. You are more open than that.

What aren't we funding Veterans' care?

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/17/2017 9:06:46 AM   
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What aren't we funding Veterans' care?

They aren't in utero.

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/17/2017 9:17:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		A good point.
The notion that the GOP should fund care for veterans while they're against providing anybody else with socialised medicine is an odd one, really.
It would be nice if the snivelling little turds had the balls to admit as much instead of trying to whine and wheedle their way out of making any such statement, though.

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/17/2017 9:35:04 AM   
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That also crossed my mind WM but i was trying to keep politics out of it but do you know what - does anyone one remember Trumps the lying's fuk rhetoric on veterans?

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/17/2017 10:34:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Look, point is, isn't Veterans' care something we could all agree on and insist our leaders do?

Or is there some cogent argument against it I'm not seeing?

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/17/2017 12:45:18 PM   
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Look, point is, isn't Veterans' care something we could all agree on and insist our leaders do?

Or is there some cogent argument against it I'm not seeing?

Nothing cogent, but providing veterans with medical care at the taxpayers' expense is the thin end of a wedge that might lead to a single-payer provision if it's followed through on.
The fuckers couldn't possibly be seen to support that, could they?

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RE: Why does the GOP oppose Veterans' health care? - 2/17/2017 1:12:18 PM   
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