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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 10:14:53 AM   
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He seems like a very decent guy to me and he is far more open than any prior President.



Ah ... no. I can see where you're going wrong on this. Actually, he's total arsehole, femalebornslave.

I hope that helps.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 10:24:21 AM   
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I think that people dont like il douche because he is a massiv cunt, and is looking to destroy america.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 10:26:14 AM   
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He seems like a very decent guy to me and he is far more open than any prior President.



Ah ... no. I can see where you're going wrong on this. Actually, he's total arsehole, femalebornslave.

I hope that helps.


No, that's why people like him. Alt left radicals badly need their comeuppance, and he is the man.


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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 10:28:24 AM   
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LOL. aint nothing like that happening, look around pop your head out of your ass and look.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 10:30:05 AM   
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...he's total arsehole....guffaws

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 2:48:03 PM   
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Forget the fact that he is a total knob - that just hides all the more worrying stuff.

I don't like Donald Trump because he is a xenophobic nationalist who is starting a huge moral panic about reds under the bed, who is profoundly anti-democratic in the way he treats the press and because of the frightening undertones of dictatorship.

Anyone holding contrary views to him is labelled as "establishment", "anti-American", "leftist" and the impression is constantly given that there is some kind of anti-democratic move to undermine him.

This is how dictatorships begin - with those in power convincing everyone else that there are shady forces trying to undermine the state. Enemies are found and scapegoated. There was no rational reason to ban people entering the US from those mainly Muslim states. America's security was not being undermined by those people. But it did get lots of people feeling good about defending the American way of life.

Democracy is about allowing dissenting voices, the fact that public opinion changes, the right to vote and vote and vote again on issues. Unfortunately it is becoming about sucking it up if you disagree. Does that really sound like democracy?

In the UK at the moment being anti-Brexit is becoming somehow anti-British and people are being told to shut up and put up. All of a sudden holding a contrary view to "the settled will of the British people" means you have to be silenced. It's just people who don't hold your views. Surely we are big enough to deal with that.

Trump is making those who oppose him into enemies of the state and enemies of the Trump revolution.

We've all heard that kind of language before. It is the language of the 20th century dictators all around the world - many of whom came to power on a wave of "public" sentiment.

Trump represents a minority of the American people. You would have been forgiven for believing that he came to power with 70% of the vote, not well under 50%.

Forget the pot-belly. Forget the comedy hairstyle. Forget the fact that he is sexist, racist and obnoxious (no matter how distasteful those things are).

The man is a thug. He was a thug in business. Now he is a thug as president.

God help the United States of America. I hope the Constitution protects the majority who wanted nothing to do with this dangerous man.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 2:55:52 PM   
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Forget the fact that he is a total knob - that just hides all the more worrying stuff.

I don't like Donald Trump because he is a xenophobic nationalist who is starting a huge moral panic about reds under the bed, who is profoundly anti-democratic in the way he treats the press and because of the frightening undertones of dictatorship.

Anyone holding contrary views to him is labelled as "establishment", "anti-American", "leftist" and the impression is constantly given that there is some kind of anti-democratic move to undermine him.

This is how dictatorships begin - with those in power convincing everyone else that there are shady forces trying to undermine the state. Enemies are found and scapegoated. There was no rational reason to ban people entering the US from those mainly Muslim states. America's security was not being undermined by those people. But it did get lots of people feeling good about defending the American way of life.

Democracy is about allowing dissenting voices, the fact that public opinion changes, the right to vote and vote and vote again on issues. Unfortunately it is becoming about sucking it up if you disagree. Does that really sound like democracy?

In the UK at the moment being anti-Brexit is becoming somehow anti-British and people are being told to shut up and put up. All of a sudden holding a contrary view to "the settled will of the British people" means you have to be silenced. It's just people who don't hold your views. Surely we are big enough to deal with that.

Trump is making those who oppose him into enemies of the state and enemies of the Trump revolution.

We've all heard that kind of language before. It is the language of the 20th century dictators all around the world - many of whom came to power on a wave of "public" sentiment.

Trump represents a minority of the American people. You would have been forgiven for believing that he came to power with 70% of the vote, not well under 50%.

Forget the pot-belly. Forget the comedy hairstyle. Forget the fact that he is sexist, racist and obnoxious (no matter how distasteful those things are).

The man is a thug. He was a thug in business. Now he is a thug as president.

God help the United States of America. I hope the Constitution protects the majority who wanted nothing to do with this dangerous man.


The opposite is true again and again throughout your post

EXAMPLE, your reds under the bed bs stupidity - it's the alt left trying to claim with their wild eyes and hysteria that the Russians hacked the election, Trump is a Russian plant etc etc etc

Rush Limbaugh had a pretty good rant today on the alt left Trump / media hysteria, which many presidents have severely criticized the media

Media Clowns Think They Have Constitutional Immunity from Criticism

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/02/20/media-clowns-think-they-have-constitutional-immunity-from-criticism/

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 3:10:27 PM   
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I hope aliens from outer space don't land in the United States and say, "take me to your leader." How embarrassing would that be?

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 3:14:52 PM   
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I hope aliens from outer space don't land in the United States and say, "take me to your leader." How embarrassing would that be?

True. But the chagrin might be worth bearing if there's a chance of their abducting him.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 3:15:02 PM   
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he is now dictating other countries policies


the US has always done that, thats why there are terrorists & the ME hates the West/US, that all goes back decades to the US meddling with the Shah of Iran.. What Trump is doing in that regard is nothing new, its just that he is a total nutbar crazy (like Hitler)- that is the scary part.. he is a Hitler with nukes..

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 3:17:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

The opposite is true again and again throughout your post

EXAMPLE, your reds under the bed bs stupidity - it's the alt left trying to claim with their wild eyes and hysteria that the Russians hacked the election, Trump is a Russian plant etc etc etc

Rush Limbaugh had a pretty good rant today on the alt left Trump / media hysteria, which many presidents have severely criticized the media

Media Clowns Think They Have Constitutional Immunity from Criticism

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/02/20/media-clowns-think-they-have-constitutional-immunity-from-criticism/


Where did you get any of that from my post?

Carry on madly tilting at windmills.

You guys managed to vote Trump in by yourselves without any Russian help. The Russians clumsy hacking of all sorts of things all across Europe and the US is a reality but frankly it is a bit of a sideshow.

I'm not stuck in some American binary, supporting your liberal press. So you can cast me as some cartoon politically correct American leftist if that makes you feel better but you'd be wrong.

I don't have an American sensibility about "national security", the Cold War and the Russians. The fact that both the United States and Russia now have thug presidents is something new and altogether more disturbing.

Welcome to the new world order.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 3:35:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

Where did you get any of that from my post?



Damn... I quoted it. It's all right there in your post. You wrote it, now you deny what you wrote...



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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 3:36:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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He seems like a very decent guy to me and he is far more open than any prior President.



Ah ... no. I can see where you're going wrong on this. Actually, he's total arsehole, femalebornslave.

I hope that helps.


No, that's why people like him. Alt left radicals badly need their comeuppance, and he is the man.



You're talking alt bollocks again, Bosco.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 3:42:39 PM   
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he is now dictating other countries policies


the US has always done that, thats why there are terrorists & the ME hates the West/US, that all goes back decades to the US meddling with the Shah of Iran.. What Trump is doing in that regard is nothing new, its just that he is a total nutbar crazy (like Hitler)- that is the scary part.. he is a Hitler with nukes..


And chronically stupid, unfortunately. I still can't get over his 'unpresidented' - I mean, it still gobsmacks me that a man who has become President - and the most powerful of presidents across the world - doesn't know how to use words that are related to 'president'. On the plus side: he's not as angry as Hitler was.


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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 4:16:35 PM   
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He seems like a very decent guy to me and he is far more open than any prior President.

He is blunt and abrasive. Worse yet he not only beat Hillary, but nobody saw it coming until election night when it happened.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 4:20:06 PM   
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If you think all this is about Hilary, you have a lot of catching up to do.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 4:21:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

Forget the fact that he is a total knob - that just hides all the more worrying stuff.

I don't like Donald Trump because he is a xenophobic nationalist who is starting a huge moral panic about reds under the bed, who is profoundly anti-democratic in the way he treats the press and because of the frightening undertones of dictatorship.

Anyone holding contrary views to him is labelled as "establishment", "anti-American", "leftist" and the impression is constantly given that there is some kind of anti-democratic move to undermine him.

This is how dictatorships begin - with those in power convincing everyone else that there are shady forces trying to undermine the state. Enemies are found and scapegoated. There was no rational reason to ban people entering the US from those mainly Muslim states. America's security was not being undermined by those people. But it did get lots of people feeling good about defending the American way of life.

Democracy is about allowing dissenting voices, the fact that public opinion changes, the right to vote and vote and vote again on issues. Unfortunately it is becoming about sucking it up if you disagree. Does that really sound like democracy?

In the UK at the moment being anti-Brexit is becoming somehow anti-British and people are being told to shut up and put up. All of a sudden holding a contrary view to "the settled will of the British people" means you have to be silenced. It's just people who don't hold your views. Surely we are big enough to deal with that.

Trump is making those who oppose him into enemies of the state and enemies of the Trump revolution.

We've all heard that kind of language before. It is the language of the 20th century dictators all around the world - many of whom came to power on a wave of "public" sentiment.

Trump represents a minority of the American people. You would have been forgiven for believing that he came to power with 70% of the vote, not well under 50%.

Forget the pot-belly. Forget the comedy hairstyle. Forget the fact that he is sexist, racist and obnoxious (no matter how distasteful those things are).

The man is a thug. He was a thug in business. Now he is a thug as president.

God help the United States of America. I hope the Constitution protects the majority who wanted nothing to do with this dangerous man.

Not well under 50% which by the way Clinton was also under 50% as were the winners in the 3 elections from 92 trough 2000.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 4:22:58 PM   
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He seems like a very decent guy to me and he is far more open than any prior President.

He is blunt and abrasive. Worse yet he not only beat Hillary, but nobody saw it coming until election night when it happened.

Oh, russians, american taxpayers, and fbi political hacks saw it coming.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 6:44:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

Forget the fact that he is a total knob - that just hides all the more worrying stuff.

I don't like Donald Trump because he is a xenophobic nationalist who is starting a huge moral panic about reds under the bed, who is profoundly anti-democratic in the way he treats the press and because of the frightening undertones of dictatorship.

Anyone holding contrary views to him is labelled as "establishment", "anti-American", "leftist" and the impression is constantly given that there is some kind of anti-democratic move to undermine him.

This is how dictatorships begin - with those in power convincing everyone else that there are shady forces trying to undermine the state. Enemies are found and scapegoated. There was no rational reason to ban people entering the US from those mainly Muslim states. America's security was not being undermined by those people. But it did get lots of people feeling good about defending the American way of life.

Democracy is about allowing dissenting voices, the fact that public opinion changes, the right to vote and vote and vote again on issues. Unfortunately it is becoming about sucking it up if you disagree. Does that really sound like democracy?

In the UK at the moment being anti-Brexit is becoming somehow anti-British and people are being told to shut up and put up. All of a sudden holding a contrary view to "the settled will of the British people" means you have to be silenced. It's just people who don't hold your views. Surely we are big enough to deal with that.

Trump is making those who oppose him into enemies of the state and enemies of the Trump revolution.

We've all heard that kind of language before. It is the language of the 20th century dictators all around the world - many of whom came to power on a wave of "public" sentiment.

Trump represents a minority of the American people. You would have been forgiven for believing that he came to power with 70% of the vote, not well under 50%.

Forget the pot-belly. Forget the comedy hairstyle. Forget the fact that he is sexist, racist and obnoxious (no matter how distasteful those things are).

The man is a thug. He was a thug in business. Now he is a thug as president.

God help the United States of America. I hope the Constitution protects the majority who wanted nothing to do with this dangerous man.

You really need to pay attention, it is his opponents who are are pushing the red scare. For example the same people who told us that Hillary's private server was in no danger of being hacked, now assure us that the same people who couldn't hack it for governments did so to decide the election.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/20/2017 8:05:50 PM   
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I hope aliens from outer space don't land in the United States and say, "take me to your leader." How embarrassing would that be?

True. But the chagrin might be worth bearing if there's a chance of their abducting him.

Now that made me LOL. Thing is, once on board those aliens would quickly throw him back...like a sick fish.

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