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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/21/2017 4:25:12 PM   
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I am saying that ethics are relative and the results are what matter.



ethics has nothing to do with results, morals do.


Why would you say that?




ethics is the study of morals, but not the moral in and of itself

its a distinction that many are trying to make go invisible because it serves to cloud the water on the religion issue



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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/21/2017 5:27:35 PM   
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Again, whatever you fantasize about the NSDAP, is factually wrong.

Since you do not name your source I can only guess that you are referring to the 25-points-program of 1920. This in itself was higly contradictory and was never (and could never) been realised in its entirety after 1933.

There is no mention of political positions filled by popular election. Point 4 and 7 determine he exclusion of non-citizens from any political or public office. On the contrary, one of the first NS laws (Gesetz zur Wiederherstellung des Berufsbeamtentums, 7. April 1933) made perfectly clear (§4) that the ruling party did decide who was to be appointed to, or removed from, any public office.

Since that program was (most likely) written not by Hitler but by Anton Drexler who copied parts of the 1918 Austrian DAP program Hitler ignored it after the early 1920s and after 1925 his Mein Kampf (and his speeches) became the guidelines of NS policy.



Again you are intentionally narrowing your view because you already know the ending.

You are ignoring the basis of the party which caused it to gain power and prominence among the people, and instead focusing on the movements and moments when it evolved into far-right fascism. From the way you are describing it, it is as Hitler stepped forward and said explicitly from the start "I'm Gunna Kill all the Gypsys and undesirables!" to the sound of thundering applause.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/21/2017 5:42:25 PM   
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Again, whatever you fantasize about the NSDAP, is factually wrong.

Since you do not name your source I can only guess that you are referring to the 25-points-program of 1920. This in itself was higly contradictory and was never (and could never) been realised in its entirety after 1933.

There is no mention of political positions filled by popular election. Point 4 and 7 determine he exclusion of non-citizens from any political or public office. On the contrary, one of the first NS laws (Gesetz zur Wiederherstellung des Berufsbeamtentums, 7. April 1933) made perfectly clear (§4) that the ruling party did decide who was to be appointed to, or removed from, any public office.

Since that program was (most likely) written not by Hitler but by Anton Drexler who copied parts of the 1918 Austrian DAP program Hitler ignored it after the early 1920s and after 1925 his Mein Kampf (and his speeches) became the guidelines of NS policy.



Again you are intentionally narrowing your view because you already know the ending.

You are ignoring the basis of the party which caused it to gain power and prominence among the people, and instead focusing on the movements and moments when it evolved into far-right fascism. From the way you are describing it, it is as Hitler stepped forward and said explicitly from the start "I'm Gunna Kill all the Gypsys and undesirables!" to the sound of thundering applause.

He did in Mein Kampf in which Hitler detailed the need to get rid of the inferior races.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/21/2017 5:50:51 PM   
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Again, whatever you fantasize about the NSDAP, is factually wrong.

Since you do not name your source I can only guess that you are referring to the 25-points-program of 1920. This in itself was higly contradictory and was never (and could never) been realised in its entirety after 1933.

There is no mention of political positions filled by popular election. Point 4 and 7 determine he exclusion of non-citizens from any political or public office. On the contrary, one of the first NS laws (Gesetz zur Wiederherstellung des Berufsbeamtentums, 7. April 1933) made perfectly clear (§4) that the ruling party did decide who was to be appointed to, or removed from, any public office.

Since that program was (most likely) written not by Hitler but by Anton Drexler who copied parts of the 1918 Austrian DAP program Hitler ignored it after the early 1920s and after 1925 his Mein Kampf (and his speeches) became the guidelines of NS policy.



Again you are intentionally narrowing your view because you already know the ending.

You are ignoring the basis of the party which caused it to gain power and prominence among the people, and instead focusing on the movements and moments when it evolved into far-right fascism. From the way you are describing it, it is as Hitler stepped forward and said explicitly from the start "I'm Gunna Kill all the Gypsys and undesirables!" to the sound of thundering applause.

He did in Mein Kampf in which Hitler detailed the need to get rid of the inferior races.


One of Hillary's heroines (Margaret Sanger) subscribed to the same ideals

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/21/2017 6:21:04 PM   
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BoscoX, why on earth are you repeating things attributed to Ben Carson?

Are you aware that the Google link you just sent us to (Margaret Sanger Hillary) actually debunks the statement you presented as fact, because Ben Carson?

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/21/2017 8:35:32 PM   
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Ethics are relative.


Clearly something pig phoquers can all agree on.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/21/2017 9:04:02 PM   
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hm... That is arguable. While there is a point in what you say, with many dictators gaining or maintaining power through popular support. I would have to say that most Right-leaning dictatorships tend to form from Militant groups that take power... Coups, Military councils, warlords, etc... rather then being elected into power.


Someone was in the shit house smokin' fags when history was bieng taught.

Pinochet military dictator of the right
Castro militarey dictrator of the left
Franco militry dictrator of the right
Mao military dictator of the left
Batrista military dictator of the right
Gaddafi military dictator of the left
Park chun he military dictator of the right


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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/21/2017 9:06:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
ORIGINAL: tamaka

I am saying that ethics are relative and the results are what matter.


ethics has nothing to do with results, morals do.


Results tend to be the product of superior firepower and not morals or ethics.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 12:44:21 AM   
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He seems like a very decent guy to me and he is far more open than any prior President.


They don't want the establishment class defunded. They love love love the 1%ers who are running the world


So yeah, how's that "Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton" thing so oft spoken of during the campaign been working out for you lately, princess? Now that the swamp has been drained and then re-filled with septic tank flood from established interests, four Trump-appointed Goldman Sachs guys spearheading the effort?

A ten year-old throwing rocks at old people's houses and breaking their windows; that was the height of your contribution to society. I can see why that's so hard to let go of as you get further in age, and your 'best' is long past.

The news is that nobody gives a crap about your personal troubles, princess.

Your ongoing constipation problem is due solely to the fact that your head, by force of placement, is forever blocking the way in opposition to that bodily function endeavor.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 1:03:02 AM   
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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 1:24:36 AM   
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Putin's love song to Trump:

Under My Thumb

Trump is definitely all 'face down, ass up' on that one, Tillerson being his pimp, there.

And being gang-banged by all the Goldman Sachs guys before and after.

Yeah, we got a real 'leader' here.



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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 1:47:11 AM   
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I hope aliens from outer space don't land in the United States and say, "take me to your leader." How embarrassing would that be?



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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 2:06:04 AM   
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So, Trump is the only billionaire (so they say) to have ever been in office of the president.

I can somewhat understand Reagan being the whore he was, being that he was a corporate street walker from the outset, as that was his only way of making a living.

But Trump? I thought the notion was that the US needs a billionaire as president so he/she can't be bribed.

Pull the chain flush on that one.

Trump is the biggest corporate slut ever there was, even surpassing Reagan.

He has better jewelry, that's the primary distinction.



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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 6:43:29 AM   
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Someone was in the shit house smokin' fags when history was bieng taught.

Pinochet military dictator of the right
Castro militarey dictrator of the left
Franco militry dictrator of the right
Mao military dictator of the left
Batrista military dictator of the right
Gaddafi military dictator of the left
Park chun he military dictator of the right


Pinochet - performed coup d'état, seized power.
Castro - Was elected leader after Revolution
Franco - performed coup d'état that evolved into civil war. won and seized power.
Mao - Was elected Chairman after Revolution
Batrista - preformed coup d'état, seized power
Gaddafi - Revolution/Bloodless Coup, was appointed Chairman of the Council that formed afterwords.
Park Chun - preformed coup d'état, seized power.


So it is almost as if...
Left leaning dictators are Appointed or Elected into their positions, then manipulate their way to stay there for a long time....
While Right leaning ones Take those positions through force, then keep that position through oppression...

Which was exactly what i was saying.

Reading comprehension.
Learn it.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 8:18:22 AM   
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Left leaning dictators are Appointed or Elected into their positions, then manipulate their way to stay there for a long time....
While Right leaning ones Take those positions through force, then keep that position through oppression...


The pro-Putin dictator Paul Manafort installed in the Ukraine was 'centrist' and 'elected'.
The pro-Putin wannabe dictator Manafort has just installed in the US is also right wing and 'elected'.

Makes you think.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 8:38:15 AM   
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Is that in the Dictators' Handbook?

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 9:29:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: InfoMan
ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Someone was in the shit house smokin' fags when history was bieng taught.

Pinochet military dictator of the right
Castro military dictrator of the left
Franco military dictrator of the right
Mao military dictator of the left
Batrista military dictator of the right
Gaddafi military dictator of the left
Park chun he military dictator of the right
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Pinochet - performed coup d'état, seized power.
Castro - Was elected leader after Revolution

After he siezed power in a military coup dumbass


Franco - performed coup d'état that evolved into civil war. won and seized power.
Mao - Was elected Chairman after Revolution

After he siezed power in a militrary coup dumbass


Batrista - preformed coup d'état, seized power
Gaddafi - Revolution/Bloodless Coup, was appointed Chairman of the Council that formed afterwords.

After he siezed power in a military coup dumbass


Park Chun - preformed coup d'état, seized power.


So it is almost as if...
Left leaning dictators are Appointed or Elected into their positions, then manipulate their way to stay there for a long time....

After they siezed power in a military coup dumbass.

While Right leaning ones Take those positions through force, then keep that position through oppression...

Which was exactly what i was saying.

No it is not what you were saying.
Perhaps if you got a grown up to explane the big words to you would not resemble the dawg so much.


Reading comprehension.
Learn it.

I clearly have and you clearly have not.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 10:47:50 AM   
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Putin's love song to Trump:

Under My Thumb

Trump is definitely all 'face down, ass up' on that one, Tillerson being his pimp, there.

And being gang-banged by all the Goldman Sachs guys before and after.

Yeah, we got a real 'leader' here.



If we're posting songs about el presidente, Fiona Apple did one: Tiny Hands.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 11:00:40 AM   
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I love raceplay and like to see black girls wearing federal flag bikinis. but i also love to see black girls dominate girls with blonde hair. I'd love to have a black girl as a sex slave but i'd also like to be a slave to a black girl ? Is it any wonder that we cant agree on politics.

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RE: Why do people not like Donald Trump? - 2/22/2017 11:02:12 AM   
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I fear you're in the wrong forum for that, sweetie.


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