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thompsonx -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 8:14:25 PM)

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Or increase the tax to vacation there.

About thirty percent of mexico's tourist come from amerika. If you raise the tax on those tourist that means you, like the guy with his hand up your ass, are in favor of amerika paying for the wall...good for you sanity, for stepping up with your cheque book.




thompsonx -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 8:23:29 PM)


ORIGINAL: tamaka

Or increase the tax to vacation there.

His "travel ban" on the muslims seems to have backfired and raised unemployment rate.
"Smart as paint" that boy is.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2017/02/14/trump-ban-causes-tourism-drop-and-industry-fears-lasting-effect/yzMAVzeLvqywP8gEekoFsL/story.html




Edwird -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 8:57:14 PM)

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I wore the uniform of this country's military for 8 years so I know a hell of a lot more than you pacifist mother fuckers.

I had no idea that wearing a uniform made a person so wise and knowledgeable, Brent. Does that apply to all uniforms, including that of a parking attendant or the Waffen SS?


PFH, I think the assumption was to be that he was IN the US military for those 8 years. It's like the Billy Joel song, Piano Man, with the lyric, "when I wore a younger man's clothes."

Having spent 8 years in the US military just might give someone a better idea about the defense of the US than someone who has not spent time in the US military.


Having read the least bit into US or world history, anybody would know that the US has never actually been in position of properly termed 'defense of the US' since Britain's vandalism raids in 1812-1815. Even with the German attacks on US eastern coast mercantile shipping in the early 1940s, we didn't defend all that much. Once US military officers woke up from their nap, the problem was dispensed with easily enough.

How much of the Vietnam or Iraq ventures could rationally be termed 'national defense,' I'm wondering.

And what good is it to have fought against fascism along with our French and British friends if not passing at least some of the experience onto the younger generation? I have to say, though, that the uncles were all quite reticent about it and wanted to move on to another subject, quickly. No matter how well justified, war is not something to discuss in polite company or at the family dinner table. One of my five uncles in that war was a history major, and only spoke to it from that standpoint. He refused to relate anything of personal experience, that being a chapter in his life he only put away (but not really) after ten years of being a drunkard, which latter episode he did recover from. He was the only one of the lot to serve in Italy and France and Germany and Korea, and we figured out that the latter is what eventually did him in. He quit the drinking, but he smoked like an iron factory to rid himself of this world as soon as possible, in which endeavor he succeeded at age 66, even if that being 30+ years past what he wished.

If watching one of the most well educated and kindest man you've ever come across in your whole experience suffering a life of hell all the while doesn't teach you something, I don't know what would. But he took his large collection of nieces and nephews out to dinner on one memorable occasion, and all he did was smile at us and say a few wonderful things. If that isn't the definition of 'hero,' I don't know what is..

So yes, it is possible that some who are good at paying attention to matters, and especially firsthand experience related to them, including the stoic silences, are well acquainted with concerns of national defense or national offense, either one, even if not having been in the military.





heavyblinker -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 9:17:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
PFH, I think the assumption was to be that he was IN the US military for those 8 years. It's like the Billy Joel song, Piano Man, with the lyric, "when I wore a younger man's clothes."

Having spent 8 years in the US military just might give someone a better idea about the defense of the US than someone who has not spent time in the US military.


Wouldn't that depend on what he was doing?
Even if you haven't been in the military, it is still possible to study and read about these things.




heavyblinker -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 9:20:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: tamaka

Or increase the tax to vacation there.

His "travel ban" on the muslims seems to have backfired and raised unemployment rate.
"Smart as paint" that boy is.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2017/02/14/trump-ban-causes-tourism-drop-and-industry-fears-lasting-effect/yzMAVzeLvqywP8gEekoFsL/story.html


I honestly can't imagine any tourists wanting to visit the US while Trump is in power. I mean, the news is full of riots, shootings, fascism, war, nuclear escalation, speculation about how mentally ill Trump is, political instability, travel bans, etc.




heavyblinker -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 9:22:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Well then Canada is the answer! A win/win for everybody. I think Trump & Trudeau should decide on a 'Move to Canada' week ... say in March 2017 ... and everyone who wants to live there can up & move ... no strings. Wonderful!


I think there should be a 'secede from the US and join Canada day'.
All of the states with the biggest economies and the smartest people would take full advantage.




BamaD -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 9:24:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: tamaka

Or increase the tax to vacation there.

His "travel ban" on the muslims seems to have backfired and raised unemployment rate.
"Smart as paint" that boy is.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2017/02/14/trump-ban-causes-tourism-drop-and-industry-fears-lasting-effect/yzMAVzeLvqywP8gEekoFsL/story.html


I honestly can't imagine any tourists wanting to visit the US while Trump is in power. I mean, the news is full of riots, shootings, fascism, war, nuclear escalation, speculation about how mentally ill Trump is, political instability, travel bans, etc.


Either your news exaggerates, or you do. Most likely it is your news. Avoid Ca and you should be ok Of course with your irrational hatred of both Trump and the Us anything is possible.




tamaka -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 9:55:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Well then Canada is the answer! A win/win for everybody. I think Trump & Trudeau should decide on a 'Move to Canada' week ... say in March 2017 ... and everyone who wants to live there can up & move ... no strings. Wonderful!


I think there should be a 'secede from the US and join Canada day'.
All of the states with the biggest economies and the smartest people would take full advantage.


Not really... the smartest people know that would be cutting off their nose to spite their face, and the states with the biggest economies want to keep it that way. Just the mental cases want to move to Canada.




tamaka -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 9:58:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: tamaka

Or increase the tax to vacation there.

His "travel ban" on the muslims seems to have backfired and raised unemployment rate.
"Smart as paint" that boy is.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2017/02/14/trump-ban-causes-tourism-drop-and-industry-fears-lasting-effect/yzMAVzeLvqywP8gEekoFsL/story.html


I honestly can't imagine any tourists wanting to visit the US while Trump is in power. I mean, the news is full of riots, shootings, fascism, war, nuclear escalation, speculation about how mentally ill Trump is, political instability, travel bans, etc.



Sure with all the upheaval and mahem in the US and Europe, Mexico and Canada (coming soon)... Russia and China might make better vacation choices this year.




heavyblinker -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:04:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: tamaka

Or increase the tax to vacation there.

His "travel ban" on the muslims seems to have backfired and raised unemployment rate.
"Smart as paint" that boy is.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2017/02/14/trump-ban-causes-tourism-drop-and-industry-fears-lasting-effect/yzMAVzeLvqywP8gEekoFsL/story.html


I honestly can't imagine any tourists wanting to visit the US while Trump is in power. I mean, the news is full of riots, shootings, fascism, war, nuclear escalation, speculation about how mentally ill Trump is, political instability, travel bans, etc.


Either your news exaggerates, or you do. Most likely it is your news. Avoid Ca and you should be ok Of course with your irrational hatred of both Trump and the Us anything is possible.


Once again you missed the point/made up your own reality.
It's like your superpower.




heavyblinker -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:07:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Not really... the smartest people know that would be cutting off their nose to spite their face, and the states with the biggest economies want to keep it that way. Just the mental cases want to move to Canada.


I think most people prefer stability and sanity to Trump's America. It's hard to abandon your home for sure, but if Trump actually manages to cover up this Russian thing effectively and lasts 4 years, then what he will do to the country will prompt a lot of people to leave for real. If he lasts 8, then it will be the end of the US.




Edwird -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:08:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Of course with your irrational hatred of both Trump and the Us anything is possible.


I would say that "anybody who loves the US hates Trump," but I'm not into the hate thing, actually.

I always keep in mind that even with one quarter of the populace voting for him, the US citizenry overall is stronger than any reality TV star.






heavyblinker -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:09:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Sure with all the upheaval and mahem in the US and Europe, Mexico and Canada (coming soon)... Russia and China might make better vacation choices this year.


No, Canada is going to be fine because it isn't being run by a racist, antagonistic piece of shit.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:13:23 PM)

In Aztec mythology, Iztaccíhuatl was a princess who fell in love with one of her father's warriors, Popocatépetl. The emperor sent Popocatépetl to war in Oaxaca, promising him Iztaccíhuatl as his wife when he returned (which Iztaccíhuatl's father presumed he would not). Iztaccíhuatl was falsely told Popocatépetl had died in battle, and believing the news, she died of grief. When Popocatépetl returned to find his love dead, he took her body to a spot outside Tenochtitlan and kneeled by her grave. The gods covered them with snow and changed them into mountains. Iztaccíhuatl's mountain is called "White Woman" (from the nahuatl iztac "white" and cihuatl "woman") because it resembles a woman lying on her back, and is often covered with snow. (The peak is sometimes nicknamed La Mujer Dormida ("The Sleeping Woman".) Popocatépetl became an active volcano, raining fire on Earth in blind rage at the loss of his beloved.

So to that end Mexico must build a magma tunnel from there to Americashire jackal land, billing them of course, and fill Amerciashire jackal land with lava...And from the north Canada, I seem to be unaware of any active Canadian volcanoes, must tunnel to the earth’s core, like what happened in that documentary called The Core and unleash a basalt flood from the north. Wicked, forever the humanitarian, will try and descramble the Jackals brains with a super duper fridge magnet and a big stick.




tamaka -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:13:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Sure with all the upheaval and mahem in the US and Europe, Mexico and Canada (coming soon)... Russia and China might make better vacation choices this year.


No, Canada is going to be fine because it isn't being run by a racist, antagonistic piece of shit.


Watch and see what happens when they start pouring in.




tamaka -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:16:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Not really... the smartest people know that would be cutting off their nose to spite their face, and the states with the biggest economies want to keep it that way. Just the mental cases want to move to Canada.


I think most people prefer stability and sanity to Trump's America. It's hard to abandon your home for sure, but if Trump actually manages to cover up this Russian thing effectively and lasts 4 years, then what he will do to the country will prompt a lot of people to leave for real. If he lasts 8, then it will be the end of the US.


Leave and go where exactly?




heavyblinker -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:27:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Not really... the smartest people know that would be cutting off their nose to spite their face, and the states with the biggest economies want to keep it that way. Just the mental cases want to move to Canada.


I think most people prefer stability and sanity to Trump's America. It's hard to abandon your home for sure, but if Trump actually manages to cover up this Russian thing effectively and lasts 4 years, then what he will do to the country will prompt a lot of people to leave for real. If he lasts 8, then it will be the end of the US.


Leave and go where exactly?



Anywhere they can.




Edwird -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:27:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
ORIGINAL: tamaka
Or increase the tax to vacation there.

His "travel ban" on the muslims seems to have backfired and raised unemployment rate.
"Smart as paint" that boy is.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2017/02/14/trump-ban-causes-tourism-drop-and-industry-fears-lasting-effect/yzMAVzeLvqywP8gEekoFsL/story.html

I honestly can't imagine any tourists wanting to visit the US while Trump is in power. I mean, the news is full of riots, shootings, fascism, war, nuclear escalation, speculation about how mentally ill Trump is, political instability, travel bans, etc.


Sure with all the upheaval and mahem in the US and Europe, Mexico and Canada (coming soon)... Russia and China might make better vacation choices this year.


That upheaval thing having nothing to do with US invasions and US elections. Of course.

This is almost like the '60s in the US with the 'British invasion' in pop music, where everybody turned all Anglophile.

So now that we've gone all 'Russophile' with the election of Trump, who is your favorite composer, Tchaikovsky or Prokofiev?

This is an increasingly important question.




tj444 -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:30:59 PM)


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They are refugees, and while some/many may be going thru the asylum refugee process and fear automatic deportation by Trump at some point, some may even have been vetted and gotten green cards but they fear being put in internment camps like the US did to Japanese & Japanese-Americans.. They have gotten the message that immigrants arent welcome in the US & refugees even less so..
They are just being smart about it and leaving rather than stay and face the risk & uncertainty & the increasing hate.. They will have a much better life in Canada anyway..
This is very much like the (as many as 30,000) slaves that traveled on the Underground Railroad to Canada to real freedom.. and like the (30,000 to 40,000) American draft dodgers who refused to fight in Vietnam and came to Canada instead.. And btw, Canada wasnt punished those times and wont be this time either..


Regarding the bolded part, you can thank the Democrats and those with a liberal/progressive bent for that. Building a wall on the border between Mexico and the US doesn't have any impact on legal immigration. The wall is all about preventing/reducing illegal immigration. Everyone but the soundbite believers knows this stuff.

Maybe we should have ICE offer transportation to Canada to anyone illegally crossing the southern border. Pamphlet bomb the desert borders with instructions on how to take part of the program. You think Canadians would be okay with that?


Again, Trudeau said refugees were welcome, he didnt say everyone.. anyone else has to apply & qualify.. which, btw, is considerably easier, faster, at less cost and with more options than trying to immigrate to the US.. As I have said before, if you dont have a million $ in the bank, have close family able to sponsor you or have an American fiance, then forget about immigrating legally to the US.. So many of you are so fucking clueless about how flawed and screwed up your immigration system is..

I am amazed that you can blame libs/Ds for Trump's refugee/immigration ban & stupid wall idea... Sad




Edwird -> RE: Oh Canada! (2/23/2017 10:58:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tj444
As I have said before, if you dont have a million $ in the bank, have close family able to sponsor you or have an American fiance, then forget about immigrating legally to the US.


The US immigration laws were/are lax enough to allow an inveterate US hater such as yourself across the border, and remain for years while still spouting all the hate to her host country at every opportunity.

Glad to hear you have a million $ in the bank and an American fiancé, though, hard as it is for me to imagine anyone putting up with a relentlessly griping bitch such as you in the first place. Not to mention someone in possession of a million dollars living in a country she absolutely despises.

Or was that post your roundabout way of saying you are here illegally?

The exit door; down the hall, first door on the right. Bye now.




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