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respectmen -> "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/23/2017 9:13:54 PM)

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21717404-designing-fiscal-policies-support-gender-equality-good-growth-why



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Because women earn less, rely more on benefits, and are much more likely than men to be single parents, the cuts affected them disproportionately.


I really have to hand it to whoever wrote this nifty sentence is incredible. This is spinning elevated to an art.

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Because women earn less,


1) Women have agency and are responsible for their own career decisions. Women, as a whole, make decisions that lead to lower wages than men. Choices such major, jobs with more time off, and having/raising kids.

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rely more on benefits,


2) Due to numerous human and societal factors, women have successfully convinced the government that they should lead lives with roughly the same quality as that of men, despite their own agency leading to the disparity of wages in the first place.

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and are much more likely than men to be single parents,


3) Women have SOLE agency as to whether or not to become a parent; the man has no say once the sperm leaves his body. Additionally, women initiate somewhere between 66% and 75% of divorces, while winning custody of children approximately 82% of the time. These choices further exacerbates the point found above.

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the cuts affected them disproportionately.


4) Despite explicit agency for their own situation, women require assistance from a male-funded government to ensure that they are able to maintain the same lifestyle as a man.

I really am amazed at the level of skill it takes to wind these simple facts into a compelling narrative like the one we've seen here. Hats off to whoever created this incredibly succinct repackaging of the facts. I think we can learn from this.



Termyn8or -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/23/2017 9:34:05 PM)

Dude, GET OFF OF IT.

And usually the old custody thing is an issue but you made it not.

A I am going to say this.

We Men can shut you women up with almost no effort. A simple smack upside your head will do it every time.

Men rule this world, and the only problems you have are when you forget it. How many lessons do you need ?

Unfortunately that shuts RM down, along with his whining, But we are still on top and we still run things.

If not, the rest of you would have nothing to whine about.

T^T



respectmen -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/23/2017 9:38:47 PM)

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Unfortunately that shuts RM down, along with his whining, But we are still on top and we still run things.


Chuckles.

Less than one percent of the male population "run things". The rest of the male population are just as powerless as the next woman.

Time to start telling the truth instead of using this ridiculous apex fallacy all the time.




mnottertail -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/23/2017 9:45:24 PM)

I have the power to get blowjobs, so I am all set, thanks anyway.



smileforme50 -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/23/2017 10:16:47 PM)

"Women have SOLE agency as to whether or not to become a parent; the man has no say once the sperm leaves his body. "

If that is truly the case....then you better start telling every single male Senator, Congressman, Governor, and Supreme Court Justice that they have absolutely NO place in deciding whether a woman has the right to a fast, simple, no questions asked abortion.



respectmen -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/24/2017 12:22:58 AM)

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If that is truly the case....then you better start telling every single male Senator, Congressman, Governor, and Supreme Court Justice that they have absolutely NO place in deciding whether a woman has the right to a fast, simple, no questions asked abortion.


Then there is adoption.



longwayhome -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 8:04:58 AM)

Back to the OP.

It is generally accepted that the first wave of austerity in the UK disproportionately affected women. Simple examples like cutting tax credits based on family income and the number of children you have affect women more because there are more women who have children with no partner at home than vice versa.

This was of course a completely unintended consequence of Cameron and Osborne's austerity budgets. What they must have known in advance was that the cuts fell disproportionately on those of lower income. What I don't believe they worked out was that the cuts affected women more than men.

This is something that has been properly researched and demonstrated.

I know that you have lots of reasons why you think that women brought it on themselves, but surely you are not contesting the figures?



Lucylastic -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 8:26:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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If that is truly the case....then you better start telling every single male Senator, Congressman, Governor, and Supreme Court Justice that they have absolutely NO place in deciding whether a woman has the right to a fast, simple, no questions asked abortion.


Then there is adoption.

forced birther bullshit.



longwayhome -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 8:42:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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If that is truly the case....then you better start telling every single male Senator, Congressman, Governor, and Supreme Court Justice that they have absolutely NO place in deciding whether a woman has the right to a fast, simple, no questions asked abortion.


Then there is adoption.


Really.

So if you had a daughter in that position you would force her to go through nine months of pregnancy, give birth and hand the child over to someone else.

Maybe you would. Maybe for you the principle would be more important than your daughter's well-being or happiness.

I sometimes think you are so wrapped up in your own world that you find it difficult to empathise with women (or for that matter men who don't share your myopia).



Awareness -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 8:50:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: longwayhome


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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If that is truly the case....then you better start telling every single male Senator, Congressman, Governor, and Supreme Court Justice that they have absolutely NO place in deciding whether a woman has the right to a fast, simple, no questions asked abortion.


Then there is adoption.


Really.

So if you had a daughter in that position you would force her to go through nine months of pregnancy, give birth and hand the child over to someone else.

Maybe you would. Maybe for you the principle would be more important than your daughter's well-being or happiness.

I sometimes think you are so wrapped up in your own world that you find it difficult to empathise with women (or for that matter men who don't share your myopia).
The irony here is the utterly gynocentric focus of your reply. You clearly have no empathy for men whatsoever.



LadyPact -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 9:06:10 AM)

Tell ya what, RM...

If you are really willing to come here and allow me to duplicate pregnancy in your physical being, we have a deal.



Lucylastic -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 9:07:34 AM)

only women have babies, of course its gynocentric you dumb fucking plonker



Awareness -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 9:11:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

only women have babies, of course its gynocentric you dumb fucking plonker
And only men fucking pay for them.

I find it ironic that women bitch about carrying a child for 9 months, but seem perfectly happy forcing a man to work his ass off to pay for their child for 18 years.

The entitlement mentality is astounding. And it really can only be explained by misandry. Genuine hatred for men and a lack of empathy. You are a typical case in point.



Awareness -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 9:14:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

"Women have SOLE agency as to whether or not to become a parent; the man has no say once the sperm leaves his body. "

If that is truly the case....then you better start telling every single male Senator, Congressman, Governor, and Supreme Court Justice that they have absolutely NO place in deciding whether a woman has the right to a fast, simple, no questions asked abortion.
Yes, because ethical questions should be decided by individuals, not considered by the society of which they're a part.

Hell, while you're at it, why don't you just shoot your neighbour if he annoys you? After all, what right does society have to weigh in on your decision? You're an individual, right? You should be able to do whatever you want!

Yes. You really are this stupid.





Lucylastic -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 9:35:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

only women have babies, of course its gynocentric you dumb fucking plonker
And only men fucking pay for them.

I find it ironic that women bitch about carrying a child for 9 months, but seem perfectly happy forcing a man to work his ass off to pay for their child for 18 years.

The entitlement mentality is astounding. And it really can only be explained by misandry. Genuine hatred for men and a lack of empathy. You are a typical case in point.



Men only pay financially, Its a shame it isnt followed by millions of men either...
Women pay for far longer, financially AND many other ways.
Entitlement? what utter bollocks

Oh and Prove I am a typical case



Awareness -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 9:48:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Men only pay financially, Its a shame it isnt followed by millions of men either...
No, they pay with their lives. They have to work for 18 years regardless of whether they want that responsibility or not.... but women are free to evade that responsibility because "ITS MAH BODEEE!"

Fucking children.

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Women pay for far longer, financially AND many other ways.
Oh bullshit. If women like you aren't living off a man, you're suckling at the teat of government assistance. You seem to think you're entitled to a child without making any sacrifices for it. Paying is for men, but deciding if you want a child is for women, amirite?

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Entitlement? what utter bollocks
Your entitlement IS bollocks. Grow up and start acting like a responsible adult, instead of expecting men to pay for your poor decisions.

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Oh and Prove I am a typical case
Oh, you've demonstrated that over and over again. Your misandry is fucking obvious.




Lucylastic -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 9:58:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Men only pay financially, Its a shame it isnt followed by millions of men either...
No, they pay with their lives. They have to work for 18 years regardless of whether they want that responsibility or not.... but women are free to evade that responsibility because "ITS MAH BODEEE!"

Fucking children.

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Women pay for far longer, financially AND many other ways.
Oh bullshit. If women like you aren't living off a man, you're suckling at the teat of government assistance. You seem to think you're entitled to a child without making any sacrifices for it. Paying is for men, but deciding if you want a child is for women, amirite?

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Entitlement? what utter bollocks
Your entitlement IS bollocks. Grow up and start acting like a responsible adult, instead of expecting men to pay for your poor decisions.

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Oh and Prove I am a typical case
Oh, you've demonstrated that over and over again. Your misandry is fucking obvious.



Oh what fucking utter bollocks you speak.
You obviously know nothing about me... at all. Your assumptions are pathetic..I own my business. lock stock and barrel.
You never have proved anything you have accused me of, especially misandry, or my situation regarding work and family. you cant be taken seriously so
dont lie so much.
You dont have a fucking clue.




Awareness -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 10:04:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Oh what fucking utter bollocks you speak.
You obviously know nothing about me... at all. Your assumptions are pathetic..I own my business. lock stock and barrel.
You never have proved anything you have accused me of, especially misandry, or my situation regarding work and family. you cant be taken seriously so
dont lie so much.
You dont have a fucking clue.
No, because women who don't stand to benefit from exploiting men always have an opinion on the matter.

Your man-hating is written all over you. Stop pretending otherwise, it's pathetic.



Lucylastic -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 10:12:51 AM)



SO I am either a taker, or an exploiter?? you are so sad. you are shooting blanks

as I said, prove it:)

you saying it, has nothing to do with fact, its not even near fake news.



longwayhome -> RE: "Gender Budgeting": The Latest Feminist Plan to Rip-Off Taxpayers (2/25/2017 10:25:37 AM)

..... and here we go again.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

The irony here is the utterly gynocentric focus of your reply. You clearly have no empathy for men whatsoever.



Gynocentric? Really? It was a post about pregnancy. That is a bit gynocentric surely?

Of course I was trying to personalise the issue of making women have babies adopted as an alternative to abortion by raising how a father might be concerned about his daughter's well-being and happiness. The focus in this case is his daughter - a woman.

Gynocentric, well perhaps, but so what? You're hardly making much of a point, given the subject matter.

I would certainly hope that a father would try to be a selfless as possible when thinking about his children. However the post was ultimately about trying to put yourself in the theoretical father's shoes, so you are wrong about the empathy point too.



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