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Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 7:29:12 AM   
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Is God a Lesbian?

Fundamentalists always cite the Bible when they get worked up about anything, especially sex. Even more so when the subject is homosexuality. Recently, during a press conference a "born again" football player declared that the Bible says, "Homosexuality is a sin." He was promptly declared a homophobe by the politically correct, the modern-day equivalent of being denounced as a witch.

Whatever his feelings about gays may be, our born-again gridiron hero is technically correct -- the bible does say that homosexuality is a sin. Then again, according to the Bible all sorts of things are sins, including telling a lie, working on the Sabbath, and hating. And let us not forget the Ten Commandments, which forbid coveting, adultery, stealing, idolatry, and just about any other way to have fun on a Saturday night.

While the faithful are always eager to share the Bible’s wisdom with us heathen, they don’t always get it right. The Bible is a complex document, and very easy to misinterpret. Some of its most famous passages are almost always misquoted and misunderstood. A close reading of the Bible reveals that some of the scripture we’ve taken for granted are not quite what they seem. Take our friend the football player. He declares that the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin. Well, that is not entirely true.

The relevant passage in Leviticus (Chapter 22) declares all sorts of activities sinful including the admonition that a "man shall not lie with another man." Lie in this case being a euphemism for sex, not SOP for political ads. However, while quite adamant on the subject of men "lieing" with men, there’s nothing in Leviticus about women lieing with women. So, technically, only male homosexuality is sinful -- women can lie with each other all they want (which they already do when the conversation turns to weight and dress size).

Why this discrepancy? Feminists argue that men wrote the Bible at a time when women were little more than chattel. Other than performing their “wifely duties” and bearing children, women were not thought of as sexual beings in their own right. Thus sexism is the standard explanation offered for the Bible’s lack of clarity on the subject of women and their “gal pals.” This is a plausible answer, but is it really that simple? Perhaps there is another possibility. Consider the following:

Most of us are familiar with this passage from the Book of Ruth (chapter 16): "Wither thou goest, I will go." This quote is often used as a paradigm of wifely devotion -- a woman who will always stand by her man. However, both thou and I were women. Ruth spoke these words of devotion to her mother-in-law Naomi. Naomi told Ruth to return to her own people after the death of her husband (Naomi’s son). Ruth refused, and stood by her mother-in-law as they journeyed to Bethlehem. Thus Ruth chose to stay with a woman to whom she was no longer related rather than return to her own family. (Not wanting to be with the family isn’t too unusual, but Ruth was clearly fond of her mother-in-law – now that’s a miracle.)

And what of our friend’s ultimate hero? Dubya’s favorite philosopher? Consider the story of Jesus. A woman named Mary, who never had sexual intercourse with a man, becomes pregnant through divine intervention and gives birth to the most perfect human being in history. Let’s face it, if this isn't a lesbian wish-fulfillment fantasy, what is?

Even in modern times, it's fairly easy to see which side the big Guy (Gal?) is on. Consider Queen Victoria, the paragon of puritanical rectitude. When the Queen still had the power to veto legislation, a bill was sent forth from Parliament outlawing all homosexual behavior. Victoria removed all references to female homosexuality claiming that there was no such thing. Did Ol' Vicky have another motive? Will historians one day uncover Queen Victoria's secret? (Sorry, I have Pun-Turrets syndrome, when a bad pun pops into my head I am compelled to say it aloud or put it on paper – always followed by feelings of intense shame and self-loathing.)

For years, the true believers told us that the AIDS virus was God's punishment for homosexuality. Male homosexuals are a high-risk group for the disease, but not lesbians. Think about it -- AIDS is primarily spread through direct contact with bodily fluids, usually through blood contact, sexual intercourse or sharing dirty needles. Lesbians tend to have limited body fluid contact. The only contact tends to be oral, and guess what? Tests have shown that saliva kills the AIDS virus on contact. So, when it comes to AIDS, monogamous lesbians are probably the safest group of all.

In other words, God apparently hates fags, but has no problem with dykes.

Why this obvious favoritism towards the sisters of Sappho? Is it just that God’s another horny guy who gets off watching chicks pawing each other? Does this account for the inexplicable popularity of Women's Golf? Lilith Fair? Flannel shirts? Howard Stern? Or is something else afoot? It is simply too coincidental that lesbians get all the breaks. Maybe our friends among the faithful have been saying the wrong prayer all these years, perhaps it should be God, who art our mother in heaven, hallowed be her name?

Is God a lesbian? I certainly hope so. In fact, if there is a God I hope she turns out to be a big fat black dyke. Imagine the shock, the horror, when the Pope, Jerry Falwell, William Bennett, Pat Buchanan and our friend the football player get to heaven and find that God isn’t quite the deity they expected. What would their reaction be if, instead of a big white man with a long beard, they climbed to the top of the celestial stair and found the lord’s throne occupied by Bessie Smith or Shirley from What’s Happening?

It almost makes one wish for a heaven.
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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 7:37:05 AM   
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Why do you want to put G*d in a box with labels like that?

And just as a note, while I know it is a comedic trope that women do not get along with their mother-in-laws, it is not a unified truth. I loved mine very much. My mother gets along with her two remaining son-in-laws.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 7:56:55 AM   
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You begin to see how many say and believe and I agree...religion poisons everything. I choose not to believe stone age fairy tales.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:01:12 AM   
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Bronze age fairy tales.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:13:55 AM   
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Bronze age fairy tales.


Or perhaps stone age fairy tales co-opted
Interesting how many christian holydays correspond with pagan rituals of the solstice.


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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:16:47 AM   
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No facts to offer here, only opinions, but likely the Bible doesn't have a huge problem with lesbians because it's a book of absurd legends that men have passed down to other men and added their attitudes and sociopolitical ideas into. Rarely is any major religion-- Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism-- a rallying point for peaceful coexistence. It's mostly about a ruling party telling someone else how to live their lives for the comfort and peace-of-mind of the ruling party.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:21:18 AM   
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Corinthians 11:7-9
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11%3A7-9&version=ESV

For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.
For man was not made from woman, but woman from man.
Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.


what's more - if you really want to expand on Leviticus, many of the passages from literal translations speak at length of how the nudity of a woman is sinful, and that she is oft unclean. That exposing that uncleanliness, nudity, or exposure of any kind is a sin which can be punished with exile or death. This includes seeing one's daughter nude, having sex during menstruation, leaving blood from menstruation, exposing ones head, seeing one's mother nude, seeing one's brother's wife nude, and so on.

So to the whole 'Is god a Lesbian' thing...
No.

However, to the over-arching question - 'Is lesbianism allowed?' The answer is actually yes.
The reason for this is actually often overlooked - When these passages where penned - a man could take upon himself many wives. And as such - this allowed a man to lay with many women at once, and by proxy, allowed a woman to lay with other women. Although in more recent interpretations and translations the word 'wives' is often replaced with the singular 'wife' the language still used is there...

Leviticus 20:18
And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing...

It makes little sense to have this separation between mothers and fathers in a monogamous relationship as your father's daughter would logically be your mother's daughter as well, as even in the original languages it is a clear and intentional separation. unless of course there where many wives in the relationship where you could have a half-sister through your father born of a woman not your mother.



But the bible is a very old book, and these rules where for a culture thousands of years ago.
I mean, legally i could kill certain person if i successfully pay a fine of livestock to the family.
how well do you think that would go over today?

"Hi, i killed your son... here is a Horse as to pay my debt to avoid going to jail."

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:38:22 AM   
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But the bible is a very old book, and these rules where for a culture thousands of years ago.


If you get to quote fairy tales as a valid source of factual data then a batman comic would also be a valid source of factual data?



I mean, legally i could kill certain person if i successfully pay a fine of livestock to the family.
how well do you think that would go over today?

"Hi, i killed your son... here is a Horse as to pay my debt to avoid going to jail."


It is called involuntary manslaughter and the victims familyt recieves a cash settlement.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:38:56 AM   
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If we have to do something so ludicrous as ascribe a sexual preference to God, then arguably God is poly.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:43:22 AM   
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Truth.

A God has no reason for gender. It's a biological factor for a power that has no need to take a body. If God had to have a gender, I'd be more inclined to believe God is a woman, as women have the greater portion of creation.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:47:55 AM   
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I don't know. They have, generally, one child at a time, every nine months, while I could knock up a few women every day.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 8:55:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: womenshouseslave

The relevant passage in Leviticus (Chapter 22) declares all sorts of activities sinful including the admonition that a "man shall not lie with another man."

Firstly, the "relevant passage" you quote is not in Leviticus 22, and, furthermore, that's not what it says.

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. ~Leviticus 18:22

Secondly, it only proscribes the act of penetration, i.e., "as with womankind," not homosexuality per se.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 9:03:24 AM   
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If we have to do something so ludicrous as ascribe a sexual preference to God, then arguably God is poly.

Definitely: the git fucks everybody without exception.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 9:05:07 AM   
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I don't know. They have, generally, one child at a time, every nine months, while I could knock up a few women every day.

But you are less involved in the actual building of the baby. It's true that the babies would includes your genetic traits, but each of those kids would primarily a product of their mothers, and entirely dependent on the women nurturing them in the womb to make it to term, as well as being a part of her body until birth.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 9:14:27 AM   
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First she'll need to figure out how to conceive without sperm.

When you've solved that, we'll talk.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 9:26:09 AM   
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Welll... I mean, asexual reproduction does occur in nature...

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 9:45:05 AM   
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Well, lets take the religious and metaphysical out of this for a few seconds.

First, assuming there is some omnipotent creator out there, going by various theories in physics, this creator does not necessarily have to be a god, per se.

It has been theorized that some of the experiments with super colliders could, in theory create new universes without us actually realizing it. So, it is possible that the 'God' which created our universe was merely a physicist playing with his equivalent of CERN's particle accelerator.

So, if that were the case, then God could be male or female, bi, gay, lesbian or abstinent for all we know...

Of course, there is the possibility that our universe is nothing more than an elaborate computer simulation, in which case, the sexuality of the team of programmers would then be involved, and then it would be a polytheistic situation, wouldn't it?

Putting the religious and metaphysical back into it, there is the possibility that none of the current accepted religions are correct and the truth lies in the discarded beliefs of our historic or prehistoric ancestors (man would that fuck with Pat Buchanan!)

So, if there is a god or gods, we will find out when we move on from this plain of existence.

If there is not, and we believe there is, well, when we die, we will never know the answer, and therefore wont be disappointed.

So, really, what point is there to asking the question?

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 9:51:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Well, lets take the religious and metaphysical out of this for a few seconds.

First, assuming there is some omnipotent creator out there, going by various theories in physics, this creator does not necessarily have to be a god, per se.

It has been theorized that some of the experiments with super colliders could, in theory create new universes without us actually realizing it. So, it is possible that the 'God' which created our universe was merely a physicist playing with his equivalent of CERN's particle accelerator.

So, if that were the case, then God could be male or female, bi, gay, lesbian or abstinent for all we know...

Of course, there is the possibility that our universe is nothing more than an elaborate computer simulation, in which case, the sexuality of the team of programmers would then be involved, and then it would be a polytheistic situation, wouldn't it?

Putting the religious and metaphysical back into it, there is the possibility that none of the current accepted religions are correct and the truth lies in the discarded beliefs of our historic or prehistoric ancestors (man would that fuck with Pat Buchanan!)

So, if there is a god or gods, we will find out when we move on from this plain of existence.

If there is not, and we believe there is, well, when we die, we will never know the answer, and therefore wont be disappointed.

So, really, what point is there to asking the question?


Thank you for the first reasonable post i've read here in months.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 10:23:35 AM   
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Well, you know . . .

Mary conceived by the power, or "overshadowing," of the Holy Spirit.

The Spirit--the ruah Yahweh, or "breath of God"--was seen in Hebrew as feminine.

So one could argue that Jesus had two mommies.

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RE: Is God a Lesbian? - 2/24/2017 10:40:02 AM   
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this fact is unknown the same as is there a god. Also years ago a TV preacher said god killed one of his childhood friends pushing him off a roof
so now he or she is gay and a liller

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