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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 4:38:29 AM

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Btw the trifoil has been registered as a trademark by the Republic of Ireland - so I guess someone told someone to save licence fees.

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 4:42:14 AM

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That's interesting. The bowler isn't some idiot '60s graphic designer's notion of what a leprechaun wears, it's copyright dodging, then.

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 5:39:26 AM

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That's a very good point. I've certainly met some Irish who find supposed "Irish Americans" who can't speak a word of gaelic irksome.

That's alright, I have met blacks and gays and Hispanics and women, who don't see themselves as poor stupid weak defenseless helpless victims who need the alt left enslave them to Marxism in order to be "saved" from the evils of white heterosexual men and capitalism

Who find your regressive language offensive too, in other words

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 5:41:32 AM

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That's alright, I have met blacks and gays and Hispanics and women, who don't see themselves as poor stupid weake defenseless helpless victims who need the alt left enslave them to Marxism in order to be "saved" from the evils of white heterosexual men and capitalism

It's not the regressive left who view them as subhuman vermin who need to remember their place leave running society to white men, sunshine.

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 6:15:21 AM

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That's alright, I have met blacks and gays and Hispanics and women, who don't see themselves as poor stupid weake defenseless helpless victims who need the alt left enslave them to Marxism in order to be "saved" from the evils of white heterosexual men and capitalism

It's not the regressive left who view them as subhuman vermin who need to remember their place leave running society to white men, sunshine.

You nailed it

That's the alt left propaganda they are learning to reject right there

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 7:17:47 AM

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Would any of you be interested (or care) how the Irish define their own holiday, their patron saint, the symbols associated with those?
Anyone interested in how all this is commented in Irish media?

I'm not interested in the least how the Irish celebrate their holiday, patron saint, etc. Nor do I care how the Irish media is commenting on it.

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Are cereals, or Trump merchandising, relevant to Irish culture in any way?

I sure as fuck hope not.

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-and what are they if not: just another example of cultural adaptation of symbols for profit purposes based on ignorance of origin and desire of nostagia?

That is exactly what they are, which is why my first post in this thread started out with "Who gives a fuck?"

I brought up the cereal just to demonstrate that a 4-leaf clover has already by linked to the Irish, but no one really gave a fuck about that. But, Trump makes the same ignorant error, and people are acting like the nuclear launch codes are being uploaded to the internet.

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 7:35:11 AM

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I brought up the cereal just to demonstrate that a 4-leaf clover has already by linked to the Irish,

General mills is irish?
You have been linked to sanity, who is a kown pig phoquer so by your own logic are you also a pig phoquer?

but no one really gave a fuck about that. But, Trump makes the same ignorant error,

So you now believe you are as ignorant as dumb don?

and people are acting like the nuclear launch codes are being uploaded to the internet.

Actually the posters, so far, have noticed his avericious mendacity and not much more.
You on the other hand seem to be having a rather special relationship with hyperbole.

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 8:08:27 AM

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Would any of you be interested (or care) how the Irish define their own holiday, their patron saint, the symbols associated with those?
Anyone interested in how all this is commented in Irish media?

I'm not interested in the least how the Irish celebrate their holiday, patron saint, etc. Nor do I care how the Irish media is commenting on it.

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Are cereals, or Trump merchandising, relevant to Irish culture in any way?

I sure as fuck hope not.

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-and what are they if not: just another example of cultural adaptation of symbols for profit purposes based on ignorance of origin and desire of nostagia?

That is exactly what they are, which is why my first post in this thread started out with "Who gives a fuck?"

I brought up the cereal just to demonstrate that a 4-leaf clover has already by linked to the Irish, but no one really gave a fuck about that. But, Trump makes the same ignorant error, and people are acting like the nuclear launch codes are being uploaded to the internet.

I actually went and looked up the differences between a shamrock and a four-leaf clover. Apparently scientists are not positive WHICH clover is the shamrock clover but think it is the white clover. Clovers are a type of three leaved grass. Now a four-leaf clover is a mutated clover to have an extra leaf, hence their rarity.

So the extra leaf stands for luck and has nothing to do with St. Patrick.

Other things that have nothing to do with St. Patrick - leprechons, getting drunk or green beer, pins that say, "kiss me I's Irish," special t-shirts, wearing green, corned beef and cabbage, parades, face painting, and the list goes on. Oh, and my favorite, headband bobbers. Those actually have NOTHING to do with St. Patrick. Who knew?

So, it seems, like most religious holidays, a lot of secularism has creeped in. After all, what does reindeer, Suzy Snowflake, and Frosty have to do with the birth of Christ? I am also pretty sure that Mary did not serve Jesus a dinner with ham and mashed potatoes for his birthday.

To sum up, like Christmas and Easter, St. Patrick's Day is a religious holiday that has been secularized. Much like having a reindeer show up in the nativity scene, you are going to see the luck show up in your shamrock. The best way to deal with this is to refuse to purchase any mutated clovers for yourself, if that is important to you. But I will say that they seem to be ubiquitous on merchandise her in the US and in Ireland.

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 10:44:06 AM

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RE: President hat #shamrockgate - 3/9/2017 7:54:13 PM

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To sum up, like Christmas and Easter, St. Patrick's Day is a religious holiday that has been secularized. Much like having a reindeer show up in the nativity scene, you are going to see the luck show up in your shamrock. The best way to deal with this is to refuse to purchase any mutated clovers for yourself, if that is important to you. But I will say that they seem to be ubiquitous on merchandise her in the US and in Ireland.

St. Patrick's Day, definitely is very secularized.

I don't care about the day. Proper or improper shamrock designs don't bug me. I'm neither Catholic nor Irish, so March 17th, is simply just another day. I won't be buying anything with a shamrock/clover design on it, unless it's a holiday version of something I normally buy and costs less than the non-holiday version.