Nnanji -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 8:27:50 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote:
ORIGINAL: Nnanji Point out what disagreed with me. Do it in context. I'm a little unsure you can, you haven't shown much of an ability to read and comprehend yet. I assure you when you do fail, I'll just laugh and not help you again. Well you seemed to skip right over this to get to what you seemed to think was the main point: The French Revolution was a major influence insofar as the Nazis saw themselves as fighting back against many of the ideas it brought to prominence, especially liberalism, liberal democracy, and racial equality; on the other hand, Fascism drew heavily on the revolutionary ideal of nationalism. Fascism opposed the egalitarian and international character of orthodox socialism, while seeking to establish itself as an alternative, third way, "national" socialism; it strongly opposed liberalism, especially classical liberalism that “implies individualism”,[4] along with communism, and democratic socialism. A) you don't really believe "Classic Liberalism" hasanything to do with current American liberalism do you? B) and you'll find quotes from both Hitler and Stalin about this, the Nazis were a one party system, just like the Soviet Union, China, Venezuela today, and Castro. Of course Hitler down talked them and sent their proponents to concentration camps. That has nothing to do with National Socialisms actual beliefs. C) http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html quote:
It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too. The title of National Socialism was not hypocritical. The evidence before 1945 was more private than public, which is perhaps significant in itself. In public Hitler was always anti-Marxist, and in an age in which the Soviet Union was the only socialist state on earth, and with anti-Bolshevism a large part of his popular appeal, he may have been understandably reluctant to speak openly of his sources. His megalomania, in any case, would have prevented him from calling himself anyone's disciple. That led to an odd and paradoxical alliance between modern historians and the mind of a dead dictator. Many recent analysts have fastidiously refused to study the mind of Hitler; and they accept, as unquestioningly as many Nazis did in the 1930s, the slogan "Crusade against Marxism" as a summary of his views. An age in which fascism has become a term of abuse is unlikely to analyse it profoundly. You just don't understand what you're talking about as can be seen from your interpritaion of what you're reading. You might be relying on what tweak said. But as she also said...nobody writes scholarly works saying Nazis were left wing. Above is an example that shows she doesn't know what she's talking about.
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