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Edwird -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 1:56:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Although i agree with your feelings about the whole trans situation, i would think a true alt left would want to institute communism.


It just so happens that I am a CIA-installed dictator in South America, in case you're interested.





Edwird -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 2:41:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

It is likely true that there is no alt-left. Just the left with its violence as usual. They want a repeat of the violence of the 70's. It is sad really.

https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/

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Days of Rage is important, because this stuff is forgotten and it shouldn’t be. The 1970s underground wasn’t small. It was hundreds of people becoming urban guerrillas. Bombing buildings: the Pentagon, the Capitol, courthouses, restaurants, corporations. Robbing banks. Assassinating police. People really thought that revolution was imminent, and thought violence would bring it about.
One thing that Burrough returns to in Days of Rage, over and over and over, is how forgotten so much of this stuff is. Puerto Rican separatists bombed NYC like 300 times, killed people, shot up Congress, tried to kill POTUS (Truman). Nobody remembers it.
Also, people don’t want to remember how much leftist violence was actively supported by mainstream leftist infrastructure. I’ll say this much for righty terrorist Eric Rudolph: the sonofabitch was caught dumpster-diving in a rare break from hiding in the woods. During his fugitive days, Weatherman’s Bill Ayers was on a nice houseboat paid for by radical lawyers.


And then of course he helped a fellow leftist take the Whitehouse.


A soon as you recognize the FACT that the FBI 'informant' Larry Grathwohl taught the Weather Underground how to make bombs and encouraged them to go that route in the first place and then supplied them guns when there was not one among them who'd have had a clue in that venture otherwise, and that the FACT that that another FBI 'informant' planted a bomb in Judi Bari's car and then the former had the audacity to charge her with felony offense of blowing herself up, which after she won an $11 million settlement, . . .

I agree that Noam Chomsky has no chance in hell of understanding his own words, forget anybody else. And how come HE's never been shot?

That should tell us something right there.

Whom they let live vs. whom they don't. The academic impotent vs, those who have done the ground work and seen the reality. Even the privileged (but some war experienced) Kennedy had the perception to see it. MLK (him especially) and others in the '60s who had "perception" didn't live long enough to see it through, there's a fact.

Let's not kid ourselves, here; the world today is nowhere near what it could have been nor what it should be.










Edwird -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 3:15:37 AM)


So there we are, Brits and Euros:

We had as best as you, but then we shot their fucking heads off.

So sorry.





Nnanji -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 7:16:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

The looney Right's insistence on literalism is amusing. They insist that 'socialist' in the official title of the Nazi party must be interpreted literally and ergo, the Nazis were 'lefties' . Any evidence of the Nazi's murderous suppression of real socialists is denied or ignored. The unanimous view of every reputable political scientist everywhere that Nazism is an extreme right wing phenomenon must be ignored too - their views are not enough to contradict a literal interpretation of a single adjective in the Party name.

Interesting results occur when this principle is applied to other areas of politics. For example, North Korea's official title is the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea. Applying the literalist principle, we are forced to conclude that North Korea is a bastion of democracy! Or the British Commonwealth, of which Uganda and Australia are both members and therefore are equal in wealth ... !

In fact why not apply the principle liberally (pardon the pun) - so that any politician's promise must be taken literally and therefore is a cast iron fact. Does that describe a reality that any one here has ever experienced? Do WMDs suddenly materialise in Iraq? The literalists have no option but to insist that they will suddenly materialise. Will Affordable Care be produced by the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare)? The literalists have no option but to insist that it will be. I could go on and on but I am sure you get the picture ....



What a small twisted mind.




blnymph -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 7:25:36 AM)

only idiots fall right into the fake socialism traps of the NSDAP or the MSI and numerous other

being excluded from proper quality education is only a weak excuse




Edwird -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 8:29:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

yet the nazis did not meet the most basic definition of socialism.


a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Their economy was regulated by a dictator, and the military-industrial complex..............hey, wait a minute, like the USA!!!

Yes, national socialist left means of production in the hands of owners but controlled what and when they were allowed to produce. They allowed the owners to be agents of the state. Which is just another form of the government owning the production. As stated before, there are many forms of socialism and if all you read is leftist publications you won't ever get beyond the fact that owners were allowed to own but had no power to defy state production requirements. And that is where, basically, all leftist discussions on the topic stop because it's a big butt hurt for leftist to acknowledge Hitler was on their side.


If all you read is right-wacko-nutjob publications, then everything just a titch, just a hair to Pinochet's left as waving to his servant means that anybody even seeing that is a Stalinist commie straight through. If you want to go there, don't expect anyone else to lay off. It's you who started ludicrous to purpose of bacchanalian banality.

So as it actually stands now, the US government is 'allowed' to "govern" as to suit the mega-conglomerates. You've already stated your preference that the corporations run the government via ALEC and other corporate sponsored organizations, because "they know how to do it better," just like they did with the collapse of Long-Term Capital Management and Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch and the laughable but still existing Citigroup.

Let's take a break, here. Go have some cookies. Take a nap.






Edwird -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 8:40:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

The looney Right's insistence on literalism is amusing. They insist that 'socialist' in the official title of the Nazi party must be interpreted literally and ergo, the Nazis were 'lefties' . Any evidence of the Nazi's murderous suppression of real socialists is denied or ignored. The unanimous view of every reputable political scientist everywhere that Nazism is an extreme right wing phenomenon must be ignored too - their views are not enough to contradict a literal interpretation of a single adjective in the Party name.

Interesting results occur when this principle is applied to other areas of politics. For example, North Korea's official title is the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea. Applying the literalist principle, we are forced to conclude that North Korea is a bastion of democracy! Or the British Commonwealth, of which Uganda and Australia are both members and therefore are equal in wealth ... !

In fact why not apply the principle liberally (pardon the pun) - so that any politician's promise must be taken literally and therefore is a cast iron fact. Does that describe a reality that any one here has ever experienced? Do WMDs suddenly materialise in Iraq? The literalists have no option but to insist that they will suddenly materialise. Will Affordable Care be produced by the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare)? The literalists have no option but to insist that it will be. I could go on and on but I am sure you get the picture ....



What a small twisted mind.


What a big pure iron head.

or, ...

Was ein gross Eisen Kopf.




Edwird -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 8:58:28 AM)


I was probably supposed to either reduce the capitalization of Eisen and put whatever incomprehensible adjective ending to it, or I should have made it a compound word with Kopf.


Mein deutsche Sprache ist sehr schlect.

Three years away from it, and it's like I almost know nothing about it.





Edwird -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 9:01:46 AM)


Whatever bit I learned of the people and the culture remains, though.




heavyblinker -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 9:19:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
What a small twisted mind.


She is ironically saying what you said unironically in order to point out how stupid it is, and she's the one with the small, twisted mind?

So what do you think about the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
Maybe they're centrists, since they're apparently democrats AND republicans.

LOL you are so stupid for thinking that they are a totalitarian dictatorship.




Nnanji -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 11:54:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
What a small twisted mind.


She is ironically saying what you said unironically in order to point out how stupid it is, and she's the one with the small, twisted mind?

So what do you think about the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
Maybe they're centrists, since they're apparently democrats AND republicans.

LOL you are so stupid for thinking that they are a totalitarian dictatorship.

I posted a quote made by Hitler saying he was a socialist. I guess you don't believe him. My understanding has nothing to do with the name.




bounty44 -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:04:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

The looney Right's insistence on literalism is amusing. They insist that 'socialist' in the official title of the Nazi party must be interpreted literally and ergo, the Nazis were 'lefties' . Any evidence of the Nazi's murderous suppression of real socialists is denied or ignored. The unanimous view of every reputable political scientist everywhere that Nazism is an extreme right wing phenomenon must be ignored too - their views are not enough to contradict a literal interpretation of a single adjective in the Party name.

Interesting results occur when this principle is applied to other areas of politics. For example, North Korea's official title is the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea. Applying the literalist principle, we are forced to conclude that North Korea is a bastion of democracy! Or the British Commonwealth, of which Uganda and Australia are both members and therefore are equal in wealth ... !

In fact why not apply the principle liberally (pardon the pun) - so that any politician's promise must be taken literally and therefore is a cast iron fact. Does that describe a reality that any one here has ever experienced? Do WMDs suddenly materialise in Iraq? The literalists have no option but to insist that they will suddenly materialise. Will Affordable Care be produced by the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare)? The literalists have no option but to insist that it will be. I could go on and on but I am sure you get the picture ....



What a small twisted mind.


nnanji, hope you don't mind my responding to her here:

hey tweakabelle---try reading ALL THE OTHER STUFF that was posted. you know, the stuff that goes beyond the term "socialist" or that mentions the nazis nevertheless shared attributes of the left, or that mention the difficulty in ascribing to them a straight "left/right" moniker?

you know---have the sort of academic integrity you like to think you have?

and shove that "reputable/unanimous" sentiment right up your ass where you keep your global warming/climate change "consensus" too?




mnottertail -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:10:26 PM)

there doesnt seem to be any trouble with the left/right moniker other than by nutsucker apologists, it was a totalitarian dictatorship backed by a military-industrial complex. slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan.




Nnanji -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:11:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: blnymph

only idiots fall right into the fake socialism traps of the NSDAP or the MSI and numerous other

being excluded from proper quality education is only a weak excuse

I'll take your word for it since I don't know who those groups are. I base my opinion on scholarly writing. But, blondie, go ahead and keep making inane points.




mnottertail -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:16:08 PM)

Sorry, wilbur, you are the retard in this vignette. Scholarly writing my ass. Pud pounding nutsuckers who ignore facts. The voices in your head make you retarded, as does your felching and syphilitic brain rot.




bounty44 -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:16:36 PM)

fellllllllllllch gobble!




Nnanji -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:20:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Sorry, wilbur, you are the retard in this vignette. Scholarly writing my ass. Pud pounding nutsuckers who ignore facts. The voices in your head make you retarded, as does your felching and syphilitic brain rot.

Which voice in your head uses the nine year old argument tactic of calling other people what they call you? I'm trying to get all of your voices sorted. Do you name the individual voices mental patient? Maybe you can tell me the names?




mnottertail -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:21:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

fellllllllllllch gobble!

You go you retarded nutsucker, get that fucking tongue into that PutinJizz and nurse it out you fucking felchgobbler. You sounding like a turkey today dogshit44.




mnottertail -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:23:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Sorry, wilbur, you are the retard in this vignette. Scholarly writing my ass. Pud pounding nutsuckers who ignore facts. The voices in your head make you retarded, as does your felching and syphilitic brain rot.

Which voice in your head uses the nine year old argument tactic of calling other people what they call you? I'm trying to get all of your voices sorted. Do you name the individual voices mental patient? Maybe you can tell me the names?

Sorry wilbur thats what you are called, maybe you didnt gobble up enough PutinJizz today you fucking shitbreathing imbecile. Is your mom sneaking in texting devices to the hospital for the insane you have been tucked away in since your mom threw you out of the basement?




dcnovice -> RE: Just what is the alt left? (3/14/2017 12:42:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

FR

It's anyone Sanity dislikes.

No more calls. We have a winner.

Why, thank you. [:)]




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