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BoscoX -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/10/2017 6:30:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Civil liberties are only a tactic that the ACLU uses to undermine and overthrow America, in order to replace it with a totalitarian state that they will maintain ‘by any means whatever’.


Oh my.

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You've never been curious about the ACLU's roots, or wondered how they choose which cases to pursue, why it's practically all left wing, all of the time because that's your part in the role that you play




tamaka -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/10/2017 6:33:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

amongst many yes, but so many in the same vein, that is---leftie's going overboard.


Yes.... for example, not only do we have to accept trans people, but we have to accept Bruce Jenner as Kaitlyn as 'Woman of the Year'. They aren't satisfied until they push people beyond their limits.



Kinda like men do everything better, as evidenced by Jenner being named 'Woman of the Year' in just his first year as a woman. Imagine all the women who've lived their whole lives as females and were never even nominated.


Exactly. Even at the far left, it is still a man's world.




bounty44 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 4:48:11 AM)

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The ACLU likes to pretend that it wants to protect the Constitution. In reality, it's a radical left-wing group dedicated to destroying our country and our constitution. If you don't believe me, take it from its co-founder...

[In 1934, Roger Nash Baldwin, Co-Founder and Executive Director of the ACLU, wrote an article for "Soviet Russia", in which he quite clearly explained why he was fighting for civil liberties.]

"I believe in non-violent methods of struggle as most effective in the long run for building up successful working class power. Where they cannot be followed or where they are not even permitted by the ruling class, obviously only violent tactics remain. I champion civil liberty as the best of the non-violent means of building the power on which worker's rule must be based. If I aid the reactionaries to get free speech now and then, if I go outside the class struggle to fight against censorship, it is only because those liberties help to create a more hospitable atmosphere for working class liberties. The class struggle is the central conflict of the world; all others are incidental. When that power of the working class is once achieved, as it has been only in the Soviet Union, I am for maintaining it by any means whatever."

"When that power of the working class is once achieved, as it has been only in the Soviet Union, I am for maintaining it by any means whatever. Dictatorship is the obvious means in a world of enemies at home and abroad. I dislike it in principle as dangerous to its own objects. But the Soviet Union has already created liberties far greater than exist elsewhere in the world. They are liberties that most closely affect the lives of the people—power in the trade unions, in peasant organizations, in the cultural life of nationalities, freedom of women in public and private life, and a tremendous development of education for adults and children...[65]"

"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is, of course, the goal.[66] "

The ACLU often insists that the Establishment Clause of the Constitution requires censorship of religious expression.

The ACLU is generally against laws that restrict access to abortion, such as parental notification when a minor seeks an abortion and informed consent for the woman herself

The ACLU has defended polygamists

In September 2000, the ACLU represented the North American Man/Boy Love Association when the parents of Jeffrey Curley, who was raped, tortured and murdered by two men, filed a $200 million federal lawsuit for wrongful death. John Roberts, the executive director of the Massachusetts ACLU stated, It's not a real popular case, but the First Amendment issues are clear.

the ACLU has taken [numerous steps] to weaken America in its fight with terrorists.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/266020/aclu-dedicated-protecting-basic-tenants-our-daniel-greenfield
http://www.conservapedia.com/ACLU


"Political democracy is useful only as a tool of peaceful change," Baldwin wrote, on another occasion. The goal was "change", or as Baldwin had written previously in the Yale yearbook, "Communism is the goal". Before the Fish Committee in 1930, he testified that he supported the right of aliens to advocate the violent overthrow of the United States. For this same reason, Baldwin defended Soviet repressions as, "Weapons of the struggle in a transition period toward socialism." Back then Baldwin and his comrades were using civil liberties to enable a Communist takeover of the United States, that would end all civil liberties. Today they and so many on the left are working to enable an Islamist takeover…

Once again, Baldwin himself said it best. "I don’t regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it." Today the United Front is Red and Green, the Marxist-Islamist alliance, and the left thinks that it and the Islamists want the same things. Including the violent overthrow of the United States.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2010/08/day-aclu-joined-al-queda.html


Ever notice how the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) seems to take on only cases that are anti-Christian - pro-sodomy, pro-abortion, anti-family, pro-pornography, pro-prostitution, pro-euthanasia, pro-homosexual, pro-infanticide, pro-crime, pro-humanism, anti-God -- and, except for atheism, anti-religion?

Following are some of the stated goals of the ACLU, from its own published Policy Issues:

the defense of all pornography, including CHILD PORN, as "free speech" (Policy 4);

the opposition of rating of music and movies (Policy 18);

opposition against parental consent of minors seeking abortion (Policy 262);

opposition of informed consent preceding abortion procedures (Policy 263);

opposition of spousal consent preceding abortion (Policy 262);

opposition of parental choice in children's education (Policy 80)

not to mention the defense and promotion of euthanasia, polygamy, government control of church institutions, gun control, tax-funded abortion, birth limitation, etc. (Policies 263, 133, 402, 47, 261, 323, 271, 91, 85).

http://dianedew.com/aclu.htm


What Does the ACLU Really Want?

On its website the ACLU declares forthrightly that “the right to practice religion, or no religion at all, is among the most fundamental of the freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.” In practice, however, ACLU attorneys frequently make legal arguments against religious freedom whenever Christian symbols are introduced in a public place. Whether it’s a student wearing a cross in school or a minister invoking Jesus’s name during a pre-meeting prayer at a local government office, some ACLU lawyer is apt to argue a case for suppressing the public expression of religious belief.

Critics have noted that ACLU lawyers typically become involved in cases that seek to prohibit, not protect, the public display of religion. Rather than uphold the First Amendment, these legal cases undermine it. ACLU’s critics conclude that the organization is not really committed to freedom of religion. It is committed to freedom from religion…

However, the ACLU is perhaps best known for its assaults on the public expression of religion. “The ACLU is the greatest censor of religion in our nation today,” says Joseph Infranco, a senior attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund, a non-profit legal group that takes many First Amendment religious freedom cases. “They selectively take a few cases [defending the right to Christian belief]. But even a broken clock is correct twice a day.”

https://capitalresearch.org/article/the-american-civil-liberties-union-how-it-thwarts-freedom-of-religion/




bounty44 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 4:49:59 AM)

"The ACLU: Enemy of America and Christianity"

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For the past forty years the ACLU has used every legal machination to make the display of Christmas trees illegal if placed in a public institution or on property where there is even the remotest connection to a tax dollar. They’ve bludgeoned America with their claim that such displays violate the separation of church and state. The display of the Ten Commandments? Illegal, they say. Prayer in school? Prohibited, they charge. The mere mention of God at a graduation ceremony — grounds for a law suit. The display of a Menorah — the next morning the ACLU is at the court steps already litigating.

How strict are they in their interpretation of separation of church and state? In Pittsburgh they went so far as to demand that a municipal parking lot be off limits to those parking there to visit a local Christmas display at a nearby church.

So when the University of Michigan decided to fund $25,000 worth of ritual foot-washers for Islamic students wishing to pray, one assumed the ACLU would yell foul. After all, it is a public institution, receiving federal and state taxes and using that money for a religious device whose purpose is to facilitate prayer. Not only did the ACLU not object but it also supported the expenditure as “reasonable,” something it can never bring itself to say when activities are for Judeo-Christian expression or symbols.

The Byron Union school district in California has decided that its public schools should set aside days and assignments where all students choose a Muslim name, recite passages from the Koran, and periodically give up certain comforts as “forms of fasting” that correspond to Ramadan. Has the ACLU brought this school district to court as it has hundreds of times when schools simply mention something involving Christianity or when a student reads her own Bible on her own time at recess or when a student chooses a religious theme for an essay topic? The ACLU has been silent. To the ACLU, the non-invasive, mere presence of anything Christian in school is far more “dangerous” than the actual, coerced undertaking of Islamic religious activities and beliefs in America’s public schools.

For those of us who have for years diligently observed the selective inconsistencies and overt hypocrisy of the ACLU, none of this comes as a surprise. Rather, it is a verification. For we know what motivates the ACLU and what is its ultimate goal. Long ago it decided to do what ever it takes to expunge America of its affinity to Christianity and strip our society of its Judeo-Christian touchstone and foundation. It expanded the context of separation of church and state to accomplish this goal, and a good-willed citizenry acquiesced for they did not wish to question what they assumed were the pure, constitutional motivations behind the ACLU’s campaign. Who wants to question an organization with beguiling head-banners such as American and Civil Liberties.

The ACLU has manipulated church/state issues and used it selectively when it furthered its own anti-Christian agenda. Evidently, separation of church from state is not the inviolable principle we were led to believe given the ACLU’s own brushing aside of it if standing in the way of Islamic desires. For, truthfully, nothing would give the ACLU more pleasure than forcing upon America — and its students — a multi-culturalism and multi-religionism that would effectively diminish the influence and identity of America as a Judeo-Christian society.

Why does this organization with the high-sounding, patriotic name have as its purpose the destruction of the Judeo-Christian, American belief system? It was founded by Roger Baldwin, an avowed communist, who knew that what prevents America from being taken over by communism are precisely its Judeo-Christian beliefs. A religious society will not give its allegiance to the state but to God only. It will support only that form of government that subscribes to In God We Trust, not one rooted in atheism, as is the communist state.

It was Baldwin who remarked how "America must follow the example of Stalin’s Soviet Union where greater freedoms exist than anywhere else in the world". Baldwin is dead, reunited with his patron saint Marx in the non-spiritual unknown where all dead communist believers congregate. But in the mid 60s, his organization was taken over by a caste of privileged elites who, though not economic communists per se, are heirs to his anti-Americanism and his goal of transforming America by using our own legal system to marginalize and demonize our Judeo-Christian ethos, undermine our penchant for local control, and eviscerate the traditions and values that have made America unique and thereby beyond the clutch of socialism.

The ACLU is led today by cultural marxists who will partner with Islamic forces if by so doing it can bring about legal decisions that demoralize the believing Christian community and sap their will to fight for their heritage. More so, in pushing Islam on the rest of us by granting them special rights not allowed the rest of society, the cultural and public face of America will change, be transformed. A transformed America, one no longer sure of who it is and what it is allowed to believe and express, is one so confused and weakened that it looses its will. That’s what the ACLU wants.

Hard as it is to believe, there are people here — an enemy within — who hate this country. They are not nationalists but trans-nationalists. Ironically, they come from those who have prospered here and now believe they are better than the average Christian of Faith who is White. Their loyalties are not to America but a cosmopolitan, very secular set of beliefs. Historic America stands in the way they wish to go — they want it gone and replaced with a totally different set of standards, which they will impose. Those harboring this pernicious mindset often gravitate to and find their natural home in the ACLU.

Most are wealthy and live and play segregated from minorities but champion any minority cause, no matter how odious and destructive, as a way to lessen the standing and comfort of the majority and its "corny" values. When looking at the cases and causes they select, most often it is that which will upset the average Joe’s apple cart. They love representing terrorists wishing to harm America, rarely loyal soldiers sacrificing to defend her. They remain immune, however, for most live a protected, gilded life.

ACLU lawyers specifically seek legal opportunities designed to upend that which we cherish and which makes us who we are: our traditions, habits, sexual discipline and our belief in parental rights and the integrity of the nuclear family. Repeatedly, they argue for the broadest allowance when it comes to supporting the "rights" of those wishing to challenge and undermine historic American norms but insist on the stingiest, most limiting parameters for those with traditional values. Case in point: They have spent years working to outlaw any form of prayer, even silent prayer, in schools when it involved a Judeo-Christian motif but are now utterly silent in a San Diego case (Carver Elementary Public School ) where the superintendent is granting a daily 15 minute prayer slot requested by Moslems that corresponds to that time of day when Moslems pray. It is an intellectual hypocrisy reflecting where their sentiments lie. They have chosen sides, and they are not on our side.

There are many in the ACLU who have rebelled against their Christian upbringing and see Christianity as the ultimate enemy, and there are many who are not Christian and adhere to a sociology that views society through the singular prism of minority versus majority: minority good, majority bad. Though they have become wildly successful and wealthy — due to the tolerance of America’s majority class — they still see themselves as a minority and find nobility in any cause brought by a non-white or a non-Christian and insist on portraying America’s majority group as racist and one that “must be brought down."

Right after 9/11, an old-time, keen observer of the American political scene remarked: “Now that they’ve attacked us, we’ll soon be giving them special rights, a form of religious affirmative action”. I disagreed, saying there is no domestic historical sin or guilt for which we must make atonement." I forgot about the ACLU. Its loathing of mainstream America spurs it to do the unconscionable.


http://humanevents.com/2007/07/20/the-aclu-enemy-of-america-and-christianity/




bounty44 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 4:58:55 AM)

a post from last summer:

"State leader quits ACLU after daughters were ‘visibly frightened’ by men using women’s restroom"

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The African-American woman who leads a state chapter of the ACLU has resigned, citing her own daughters' “frightened” reaction to biological males using the women's restroom.

The organization's increasing focus on legislating the transgender lobby's concerns pushed Maya Dillard Smith, interim director of the Georgia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, to tender her resignation.

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“I have shared my personal experience of having taken my elementary school age daughters into a women’s restroom when shortly after three transgender young adults, over six feet [tall] with deep voices, entered,” she wrote.

“My children were visibly frightened, concerned about their safety and left asking lots of questions for which I, like many parents, was ill-prepared to answer,” she continued.


In a statement, she said that the ACLU has become “a special interest organization that promotes not all, but certain progressive rights.”

The “hierarchy of rights” the ACLU chooses to defend or ignore, she wrote, is “based on who is funding the organization’s lobbying activities."


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/state-leader-quits-aclu-after-children-were-visibly-frightened-by-transgend#pq=VvitsT





bounty44 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 5:14:41 AM)

"It Figures: ACLU Awards ‘Defender Of Freedom’ Award To CAIR"

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This certainly comes as no surprise. The ACLU, a virulent anti-Christian, anti-Constitution organization has just bestowed its “Defender Of Freedom” to the Washington state chapter of the Council On American Islamic Relations (CAIR).

The ACLU was founded in 1920 by Roger Baldwin, a pro-Soviet, anti-American subversive who created the group to undermine our Constitution and its Judeo-Christian foundations. The goal was to establish a Soviet-style government in America.

CAIR, as most who read this website know, is a Muslim Brotherhood front organization that functions as the press agency for the Islamist agenda in the United States. It seeks Islamic domination over America.

As Ryan Mauro points out at the Clarion Project:

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CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in the terror-funding trial of the Holy Land Foundation, another U.S. Muslim Brotherhood entity that was shut down for financing Hamas. The FBI officially ended its connection to CAIR as an outreach partner in order to “ensure that the FBI is not supporting individuals who support extremist or terrorist ideologies.”


CAIR’s subversive activities and agendas have been well-documented in Muslim Mafia.

The executive director of CAIR-Washington state is Arsalan Bukhari, who has worked to inhibit FBI investigations into terrorist recruitment. Bukhari uses the tired old “Islamophobia” narrative to smear anyone who dares to tell the truth about Islamic subversion in America.

The ACLU, of course, has a cozy relationship with Islamists. Both routinely cooperate with each other in subverting law enforcement agencies from protecting Americans from Islamic infiltration and potential terrorist acts.


http://www.religiousfreedomcoalition.org/2013/11/13/it-figures-aclu-awards-defender-of-freedom-award-to-cair/




mnottertail -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 5:20:19 AM)

And Il Douche and his nutsucker band of brothers award the country to Russia.




bounty44 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 5:29:46 AM)

ACLU: 'Communism is the Goal'

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The ACLU remains one of America's most powerful secular-socialist political pressure groups. It relentlessly tramples underfoot the First Amendment, which guarantees sweeping and absolute liberty for all Americans -- including government employees -- to freely exercise their faith both publicly and privately without fear of reprisal: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Examples of its constitutional abuses are manifold, but one of the most recent involves an ACLU assault against a group of Christians in Santa Rosa County, FL. Liberty Counsel represents those Christians.

An ACLU-crafted Consent Decree has been used as a weapon to threaten school district employees with fines and jail time for merely praying over a meal, and for exercising -- even while away from school -- their sincerely held Christian faith. You read that right. The ACLU is literally seeking to criminalize Christianity.

In August of 2009, Liberty Counsel successfully defended staff member Michelle Winkler from contempt charges brought by the ACLU after her husband, who is not even employed by the district, offered a meal prayer at a privately sponsored event in a neighboring county.

Liberty Counsel also successfully defended Pace High School Principal Frank Lay and Athletic Director Robert Freeman against criminal contempt charges, after the ACLU sought to have the men thrown in jail for blessing a lunch meal served to about 20 adult booster club members.

Under the Consent Decree teachers are considered to be acting in their "official capacity" anytime a student is present, even at private functions off campus.

Liberty Counsel describes this unconstitutional decree:

"Teachers cannot pray, bow their heads, or fold their hands to show agreement with anyone who does pray. Teachers and staff cannot 'Reply' to an email sent by a parent if the parent's email refers to God or Scripture. Teachers either have to delete such references from the original email or reply by initiating a new email. Teachers and staff are also required to stop students from praying in their own private club meetings."

During witness testimony, Mrs. Winkler sobbed as she described how she and a coworker, who had recently lost a child, literally had to hide in a closet to pray.

Although the case continues, on Monday the ACLU suffered a tremendous setback while freedom took a significant step forward. Federal District Court Judge M. Casey Rodgers granted in part a Preliminary Injunction in favor of Liberty Counsel's twenty-four Christian clients.

Judge Rodgers concluded that even though "a preliminary injunction is an extraordinary and drastic remedy," one aspect of the Consent Decree -- its attempt to prohibit school employees from fully participating in private religious events -- is so flawed that it must be immediately halted.

The Court thus enjoined the School Board "from enforcing any school policy that restrains in any way an employee's participation in, or speech or conduct during, a private religious service, including baccalaureate" pending a trial on the merits.

"Progressives" are nothing if not consistent. As they gain confidence, they invariably rush across that bridge too far. They engage wild-eyed efforts to "fundamentally transform America" to reflect their own secular-socialist self-image.

I'm certain that both the bare-knuckle spirit of the American people and Liberty Counsel's enduring 92 percent win record against the ACLU will maintain a durable safeguard - an "impenetrable wall of separation" if you will - between our constitutionally guaranteed liberties and a subversive "progressive" agenda built upon the distinctly un-American creed: "Communism is the goal."


oh no comrades, townhall!

http://townhall.com/columnists/mattbarber/2011/03/25/aclu_communism_is_the_goal/page/full/




bounty44 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 5:33:47 AM)

"ACLU Founder a Communist Ideologue Bent on Uprooting Judeo-Christian Foundation of America"

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...The ACLU is “engaged in trying to eliminate every vestige of Judeo-Christian expression in public places in America,” Kupelian explained in his landmark book, The Marketing of Evil: How Radicals, Elitists, and Pseudo-Experts Sell Us Corruption Disguised as Freedom, according to a review by Agape press. “It’s frightening—and they are using our tax dollars to do this. They use the laws of the land to get American taxpayers to spend their hard-earned money, actually financing their own destruction.”

The ultimate goal of the ACLU is to see an America “with little or no public vestige left of religious faith and the traditional family,” according to the Alliance Defense Fund’s Alan Sears and Craig Osten, who wrote the book, The ACLU vs. America...

The ACLU “positions itself as the great defender of rights, [but] is against the right of parents not to allow their children to participate in assemblies and curricula that actively undermine and ridicule their religious beliefs,” according to Sears and Osten, commenting on the ACLU’s successful bid to force public school children in California to attend classes that indoctrinate them with homosexual propaganda.

Read a review of The ACLU Vs. America: Exposing the Agenda to Redefine Moral Values, by Alan Sears and Craig Osten at:
http://www.townhall.com/bookclub/sears1.html

[oh no comrades, townhall!]

Read a review of David Kupelian’s The Marketing of Evil: How Radicals, Elitists, and Pseudo-Experts Sell Us Corruption Disguised as Freedom, at:
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/9/afa/202005g.asp


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/aclu-founder-a-communist-ideologue-bent-on-uprooting-judeo-christian-founda




bounty44 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 5:47:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

amongst many yes, but so many in the same vein, that is---leftie's going overboard.


Yes.... for example, not only do we have to accept trans people, but we have to accept Bruce Jenner as Kaitlyn as 'Woman of the Year'. They aren't satisfied until they push people beyond their limits.



Kinda like men do everything better, as evidenced by Jenner being named 'Woman of the Year' in just his first year as a woman. Imagine all the women who've lived their whole lives as females and were never even nominated.


Exactly. Even at the far left, it is still a man's world.



some interesting irony in that

[this is bound to go over really well]

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From a different vantage point -- taking data from American National Election Studies (ANES) surveys conducted between 1972 and 2004, the University of Virginia's Nicholas Winter analyzed the words respondents used to describe the two political parties.

In "Masculine Republicans and Feminine Democrats: Gender and Americans' Explicit and Implicit Images of the Political Parties," Winter categorized words respondents volunteered as stereotypically "male" or "female:"

Winter found that in describing what they like about each of the two parties, voters used more words and phrases that Winter coded as "masculine" in describing the GOP than in describing the Democrats, by an overwhelming ratio of 7 to 1. Conversely, voters used more words and phrases Winter coded as "feminine" to describe the Democrats than they used for Republicans, again by a strong ratio of 5.7 to 1.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/studies-conservatives-are-from-mars-liberals-are-from-venus/252416/

"Strong men more likely to vote Conservative"

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Physically strong men are more likely to hold right wing political views because they believe society should be geared to personal struggle and self-preservation, an academic study claims.

Lead researcher Aaron Sell said men were 'designed for fighting' and the tougher they are, the more this influences their behaviour and attitudes.

In political terms they tend to take the more right wing view - be it Conservative in the UK or Republican in the US.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9197597/Strong-men-more-likely-to-vote-Conservative.html

"Study: Conservatives are Manly Men, Effeminate Liberals demand recount"

[same as the above but with blatant disrespect]

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Study: Conservatives are Manly Men, Liberals are men in Tights

Finally, scientific confirmation of what so many have suspected all along: The strongest of men in varied societies around the world are much more likely to hold conservative political views. Probably much smarter too.

While weaker guys, regardless of wealth, are more liberal, into handouts and wealth redistribution because, well, they don’t have the strength to get it and keep it themselves.

The reassuring results come from a new study by researchers at Denmark’s Aarhus University and the University of California at Santa Barbara, just published in the May 13 issue of the journal Psychological Science.


http://www.politisite.com/2013/05/19/study-conservatives-are-manly-men-effeminate-liberals-demand-recount/

the only partially tongue in cheek short of it is, republican men are men and democratic men are women. laughs...

(does that provide some more insight into the content of mnottertroll's posts??)




BoscoX -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 6:05:33 AM)

Nice... So it turns out that ManiacalMysery's shining beacon of salvation, is fighting for that other bloodthirsty ideology which has slaughtered untold millions of innocents

Situation normal for him







mnottertail -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 6:09:38 AM)

Nope but it does provide insight into dogshit44s overcompensating for his and his parties effeminate behaviors, felchgobbling, nutsucking, doing the airport bathrooms.
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/8441589-the-effeminate-guy-republican-connection
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/the-gop-has-a-feminine-face-finds-238867
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2009/03/04/wapo-animation-line-effeminate-republicans-kiss-limbaughs-butt
https://www.queerty.com/brief-history-antigay-politicians-caught-gay-things-public-restrooms-20161009

http://www.logcabin.org/ (they are given special veneration in the nutsucker party. In the democratic party they are not thought of as anything other than another party member)

The nutsuckers here on this forum are out of the closet now on their deep and abiding communism, time for the nutsuckers like dogshit44 et al, to come out of the closet in all respects.

come out of the closet and embrace your airport felchgobbling, doghshit44. You swish around here like a peri-menopausal drag queen in hysteria anyway, with your circlefelch. You aint fooling nobody.





BoscoX -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 7:01:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Nope but it does provide insight into dogshit44s overcompensating for his and his parties effeminate behaviors, felchgobbling, nutsucking, doing the airport bathrooms.
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/8441589-the-effeminate-guy-republican-connection
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/the-gop-has-a-feminine-face-finds-238867
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2009/03/04/wapo-animation-line-effeminate-republicans-kiss-limbaughs-butt
https://www.queerty.com/brief-history-antigay-politicians-caught-gay-things-public-restrooms-20161009

http://www.logcabin.org/ (they are given special veneration in the nutsucker party. In the democratic party they are not thought of as anything other than another party member)

The nutsuckers here on this forum are out of the closet now on their deep and abiding communism, time for the nutsuckers like dogshit44 et al, to come out of the closet in all respects.

come out of the closet and embrace your airport felchgobbling, doghshit44. You swish around here like a peri-menopausal drag queen in hysteria anyway, with your circlefelch. You aint fooling nobody.




And ManiacalMysery will continue to woo his mnottertroll brother as a political ally, count on it

Who on the left will condemn this diseased troll

The alt left cares not about gays or women or any minorities, they are radicals with mental disorders which the mnottertrolls of the world are in advanced stages of the disease




mnottertail -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 7:07:52 AM)

you are short of PutinJizz today, you and your closeted nutsuckers are trying to put the LGBT community into concentration camps so that you are free to pimp your pedophile brothers like Milo.

You aint fooling nobody, shitbreather.




mnottertail -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 7:20:01 AM)

Nutsuckers defending their family values in court.

https://www.outandaboutnashville.com/story/tennessee-senator-sponsors-anti-lgbt




jlf1961 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 7:48:20 AM)

A few points:

1) The ACLU provided a good bit of the legal defense for Larry Flynt's early legal battles dealing with the various pornography charges, and the liberals called it defending freedom of speech, while conservatives called it defending smut and undermining American values.

2) The ACLU has indeed taken cases concerning religious displays on public property, i.e in front of court houses, city and county parks etc, based on the separation of church and state, and in each case, the displays were owned by the government agency putting up the display.

B) In cases where a permit was sought and approved for Christmas displays by private groups, the ACLU did not take the case.

3) In some cases that are conveniently forgotten by the conservatives, the ACLU sued on the grounds that other religious organizations were denied permits, specifically Jewish groups seeking a permit to display a menorah for Hanukah.

So the basis for their cases are clearly constitutional, not anti Christmas.

The ACLU has never taken a case where religious displays were on the grounds of Churches or church property.

The ACLU has refused to take cases involving prominent Atheist groups who have attempted to sue the US Government over the use of crosses or stars of David as grave markers in national and military cemeteries.

Lawyers who take ACLU cases have been both liberals and conservatives and the ACLU only gets involved if contacted by an individual, they do not decide to take a case on their own. In other words, some dick head has to be offended enough for whatever reason to want to file a suit and they contact the ACLU for legal representation so they do not have to eat the legal fees.

The ACLU was instrumental in getting the US government to allow Native Americans to practice their own spiritual and religious beliefs and also were part of the process that ended the Bureau of Indian Affairs programs of "Americanization." Folks, in case none of you know it, up until the 1960's, it was common BIA practice to put Native American children in boarding schools where they were not allowed to speak their own language, practice their beliefs, or be what they were. Native American spiritual practices were outlawed in the late 1800's after the "Ghost Shirt" movement and those practicing traditional beliefs could be imprisoned for up to five years.

With specific tribes, BIA regulations even forbade them speaking their own language, even after the US military began using Native American code talkers in World War II.

Now, all that aside.

Now, please do not take my statements as defending the whole of what the ACLU does, for there are many cases they have been involved with that I feel they should have stayed out of.

Cases involving Abortion, rights of Illegal immigrants, inmates convicted of violent and horrific crimes. They have taken cases against capital punishment, something I support within reason. Their are some criminals who just do not deserve to be allowed to live and get free room and board.




bounty44 -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 11:56:07 AM)

this is so utterly priceless I just have to share it.

ive said at least a couple of times that mnottertroll lacks the ability to distinguish between things.

here's his UCLA study:

quote:

At least when it comes to female politicians, perhaps you can judge a book by its cover, suggest two UCLA researchers who looked at facial features and political stances in the U.S. House of Representatives

Female politicians with stereotypically feminine facial features are more likely to be Republican than Democrat, and the correlation increases the more conservative the lawmaker's voting record," said lead author Colleen M. Carpinella, a UCLA graduate student in psychology.

The researchers also found the opposite to be true: Female politicians with less stereotypically feminine facial features were more likely to be Democrats, and the more liberal their voting record, the greater the distance the politician's appearance strayed from stereotypical gender norms.


so the "gop has a feminine face" is because the women!

as for the men:

quote:

the faces of male Republicans, on average, scored as less masculine than the faces of their Democratic counterparts.

"It may be unnecessary for Republican men to exhibit masculinity through their appearance," Carpinella said. "Their policy advocacy and leadership roles may already confer these characteristics on them."


note it didn't say the men's appearances were feminine, it simply said "less masculine" than their counterparts. masculine is still masculine troll.

the effeminate guy/republican piece is an opinion from an anonymous guy commenting on staffers. it falls short on every principle necessary for it to be accepted as an alternative view to anything I posted earlier.

the Limbaugh piece is nothing but political snark and has no grounding whatsoever in research.

as to the "anti-gay" politicians caught doing things contrary to their stated position---that's not really an issue of "masculine or feminine" and even if it were, sorry mnottertroll---gay people are found in all political persuasions and there are many reasons for people to speak one thing out loud, but act in another when in private.

you really suck at this mnottertroll (no pun intended to the sentence above).

and no townhall---how 'bout that?

felllllllllllllllllllch gobble!




Nnanji -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 12:28:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

you are short of PutinJizz today, you and your closeted nutsuckers are trying to put the LGBT community into concentration camps so that you are free to pimp your pedophile brothers like Milo.

You aint fooling nobody, shitbreather.

Again, your fascination with pedophilia. Which of your voices is into that mental patient?




Musicmystery -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 1:14:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Nope but it does provide insight into dogshit44s overcompensating for his and his parties effeminate behaviors, felchgobbling, nutsucking, doing the airport bathrooms.
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/8441589-the-effeminate-guy-republican-connection
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/the-gop-has-a-feminine-face-finds-238867
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2009/03/04/wapo-animation-line-effeminate-republicans-kiss-limbaughs-butt
https://www.queerty.com/brief-history-antigay-politicians-caught-gay-things-public-restrooms-20161009

http://www.logcabin.org/ (they are given special veneration in the nutsucker party. In the democratic party they are not thought of as anything other than another party member)

The nutsuckers here on this forum are out of the closet now on their deep and abiding communism, time for the nutsuckers like dogshit44 et al, to come out of the closet in all respects.

come out of the closet and embrace your airport felchgobbling, doghshit44. You swish around here like a peri-menopausal drag queen in hysteria anyway, with your circlefelch. You aint fooling nobody.




And ManiacalMysery will continue to woo his mnottertroll brother as a political ally, count on it

Who on the left will condemn this diseased troll

The alt left cares not about gays or women or any minorities, they are radicals with mental disorders which the mnottertrolls of the world are in advanced stages of the disease

Do you dream about me at night?

I seem to be the center of your thinking quite frequently.




BoscoX -> RE: How bizarre. A LEFTIST, defending free speech (3/11/2017 1:27:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Nope but it does provide insight into dogshit44s overcompensating for his and his parties effeminate behaviors, felchgobbling, nutsucking, doing the airport bathrooms.
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/8441589-the-effeminate-guy-republican-connection
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/the-gop-has-a-feminine-face-finds-238867
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2009/03/04/wapo-animation-line-effeminate-republicans-kiss-limbaughs-butt
https://www.queerty.com/brief-history-antigay-politicians-caught-gay-things-public-restrooms-20161009

http://www.logcabin.org/ (they are given special veneration in the nutsucker party. In the democratic party they are not thought of as anything other than another party member)

The nutsuckers here on this forum are out of the closet now on their deep and abiding communism, time for the nutsuckers like dogshit44 et al, to come out of the closet in all respects.

come out of the closet and embrace your airport felchgobbling, doghshit44. You swish around here like a peri-menopausal drag queen in hysteria anyway, with your circlefelch. You aint fooling nobody.




And ManiacalMysery will continue to woo his mnottertroll brother as a political ally, count on it

Who on the left will condemn this diseased troll

The alt left cares not about gays or women or any minorities, they are radicals with mental disorders which the mnottertrolls of the world are in advanced stages of the disease

Do you dream about me at night?

I seem to be the center of your thinking quite frequently.


You nailed it, I did dream about sewage in the gutter




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