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servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 7:23:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon announces independence referendum will be between Autumn 2018 and Spring 2019

Ms Sturgeon says she will seek Scottish Parliament approval for a second independence referendum next week

The franchise and question in the second independence referendum is for the Scottish Parliament to decide says the first minister


For those not familiar with politics, especially trump voters, the catalyst for the second Scottish Independence referendum is BREXIT – which is where englandshire muppets voted the UK out of the EU



LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL, What utter nonsense the Scots cannot even annex themselves.




servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 7:27:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

My illness today meant I got the saltire mixed up with the lion rampant...my google kept returning Saint Andrews cross.

Bold move by Nicola... even I know it was the logical move, prophesied this occurrence, but even i didnt think the English so stupid as to vote the United Kingdom out of the EU.


but can it be won.


Say no need for any further referendum the English can just vote to up anchor and leave Scotland to cry in its own Haggis and Porridge. Wondering why they have become a nation of Beggers and Debters.




servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 7:29:12 AM)

i say independence for Rhode Island who needs the USA anyway!




WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 7:32:42 AM)

Thing is at the moment me and the voices in my head have it about 53% to stay 47% to leave. Ironically if you gave that vote just to the English they would vote us out :)




servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 7:45:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Bold move by Nicola... even I know it was the logical move, prophesied this occurrence, but even i didnt think the English so stupid as to vote the United Kingdom out of the EU.

Huh? You seriously think Scotland can survive without the UK?


Greta, yes it could indeed survive and also thrive. It did so independent of England for many long centuries. It would certainly be poorer now that the Oil and Gas are drying up. Fish stocks are heavily depleted and no real industrial base beyond the river Clyde and its immediate vicinity of note to fall back on. Only Golfing tournaments and tourism would exist to help the Scots irk out a living. No doubt there would be deals were the English baled them out of the various financial debacles they would get into and they would repay the English by heaping on more abuse upon the Anglo Saxons. Many small nations survive and thrive in the world today. Tourism would bring in much revenue but insufficient to sustain the nation. The Scots are a rightly proud nation and helped to form the world’s largest trading empire. So too are the English, Irish and Welsh. In truth they already have a substantial degree of self government and far more than any Englishman presently has. No self determination for the English they do not have any assembly or Parliament but are ruled by Westminster who also rules the UK as a whole. They benefit more from government subsidies and the English loose out. Home rule for England I say. They always get the blame and the rough end of the stick.




servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 7:54:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

WM and PFH brains I almost admire...why you two are on this place escapes me...Me! I am a sad olde loon with 3 cats who likes to ramble unto myself and I am the last of my kind let me assure you all of that. One day I will be gone - you both know this right? HB you too

waffle aside why hellow FW



Probably for the same reasons that you are on this website my Glaswegian Queen. They like to waste way a hour or two in pointless idle exchanges and like to annoy people they do not agree with and spout out Sock or Troll at anyone who dares dissent. Never mind the next batch of sailors will soon be in port and frequenting the Glaswegian gay bars ducky darling. Don’t forget to take your condoms dear aids is still about I hear.




servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 7:55:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: servantdaniel


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

WM and PFH brains I almost admire...why you two are on this place escapes me...Me! I am a sad olde loon with 3 cats who likes to ramble unto myself and I am the last of my kind let me assure you all of that. One day I will be gone - you both know this right? HB you too

waffle aside why hellow FW



Probably for the same reasons that you are on this website my Glaswegian Queen. They like to waste away an hour or two in pointless idle exchanges and like to annoy people they do not agree with and spout out Sock or Troll at anyone who dares dissent. Never mind the next batch of sailors will soon be in port and frequenting the Glaswegian gay bars ducky darling. Don’t forget to take your condoms dear aids is still about I hear.





servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 8:04:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon announces independence referendum will be between Autumn 2018 and Spring 2019

Ms Sturgeon says she will seek Scottish Parliament approval for a second independence referendum next week

The franchise and question in the second independence referendum is for the Scottish Parliament to decide says the first minister


For those not familiar with politics, especially trump voters, the catalyst for the second Scottish Independence referendum is BREXIT – which is where englandshire muppets voted the UK out of the EU



Tell me please do you support that Scottish Soccer club from Dumphries called QUEEN OF THE SOUTH?




servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 8:16:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon announces independence referendum will be between Autumn 2018 and Spring 2019

Ms Sturgeon says she will seek Scottish Parliament approval for a second independence referendum next week

The franchise and question in the second independence referendum is for the Scottish Parliament to decide says the first minister


For those not familiar with politics, especially trump voters, the catalyst for the second Scottish Independence referendum is BREXIT – which is where englandshire muppets voted the UK out of the EU




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And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honali
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Painted wings and giant's rings make way for other toys
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Oh, Puff the magic dragon lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honali
Puff the magic dragon lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honali




WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 8:27:10 AM)

Rhode island is the smallest state - lets see if I got that right - my mind is failing due to illness and not enough wine...tis probably correct so no need to google....I know fine well whom thee be sock puppet...try and not waste that mind of yours on here..the odd ramble is always permitted

Now, for reasons that i will not explain one of my favourite songs is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbupHLwQ5U which I utilise from time to time and I am sure it was you, under another creation, who also utilised it. I am probably not wrong about that either.




servantdaniel -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 8:37:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon announces independence referendum will be between Autumn 2018 and Spring 2019

Ms Sturgeon says she will seek Scottish Parliament approval for a second independence referendum next week

The franchise and question in the second independence referendum is for the Scottish Parliament to decide says the first minister


For those not familiar with politics, especially trump voters, the catalyst for the second Scottish Independence referendum is BREXIT – which is where englandshire muppets voted the UK out of the EU


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Born in the Pansy Italia, where poofs they did abound,
He was in deed the pretender, a flaming gender bender,
Off down to Derby he wondered,
Seeking out gay boys no doubt,
When someone said boo he turned and he flew,
Off back to youn bonny Scotland,
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Lowland Scots and Englishmen came looking for some cock,
Bonny Prince Charlie and his band of queers,
Hoisted up their kilts thinking to frighten away,
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They garped at his little willy much like a babbies it was,
They cut down and hacked off the wee jock cocks,
Then Bonney took flight in the heather and made of to the Lessie Flora
She rowed him out like a good butch lass,
Off to the isle in the Skye,
A ship full of french powder puffs lay at anchor awaiting bonnies return,
He will soon be in the cess pits of Paris his down by the Tulleries,
The Sun King had lost a fortune funding the the bonnies dream.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 8:54:42 AM)

servantdaniel have you tried https://www.datingkinky.com/ all sensible threads welcome on there, and fetlife.com? - the latter probably has a poetry section...but totally suck up to each forum moderator as free thought is not welcome But both have a lot more women...if you are not going to ode do so a good verse or I will be forced to employ a big stick on you..there is nothing I can do about this place regarding all those dubious profiles. So the question is what are you going to do, quoting shit limericks is not the way to go.




WhoreMods -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 9:46:07 AM)

It's worth bearing in mind, for the yanks who take no interest in the British media but are reading this thread, that the SNP have just held their annual party conference, and so wee Jimmy Krankie had to promise something to her followers, to take their minds off the stuff the SNP are supposed to be doing as leaders of the Hollyrood parliament, but aren't really prioritising.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 10:10:43 AM)

What are you WM English north of the wall - I have always wondered. I’d chuck you lot back first.

Christ! Tell me wee jimmy krankie was not at the conference. I always found that act particularly disturbing in an unnatural sort of way. The best act was Morecambe and Wise and then the Two Ronnies




WhoreMods -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 11:53:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

What are you WM English north of the wall - I have always wondered. I’d chuck you lot back first.

Christ! Tell me wee jimmy krankie was not at the conference. I always found that act particularly disturbing in an unnatural sort of way. The best act was Morecambe and Wise and then the Two Ronnies


Some wags at Private Eye have been comparing the people's glorious leader/Salmond's glove puppet to to the shorter Krankie: maybe they've seen the stories about group sex backstage and are hoping for a blowie if they normalise this line.
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PeonForHer -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 12:14:09 PM)

Ouch. The resemblance is uncanny, isn't it?




WhoreMods -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 12:23:25 PM)

I feel she looks more like a photos of somebody trying to shit out a cock she had up her arse I saw on imagefapp, but for all I know, that was Nicola Sturgeon, so I'll stick to the less convincing pics of wee jimmae for now...




longwayhome -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 1:07:31 PM)

The people of Scotland (who are by no means all Scots) could survive perfectly well outside the United Kingdom.

Their deficit is in percentage terms entirely comparable with the rest of the UK and, if you follow the take the same arguments used to support Brexit, Scotland would have control over their own economy and immigration policies. Scotland certainly needs that because it would suffer from a restrictive UK immigration policy because the Scottish economy relies far more on importing skills, just as the Scots themselves tend to migrate more than the people of the UK as a whole.

The Scottish economy would benefit far more from being part of a UK which is in turn part of the EU. It is far less clear that it would fare better as part of the UK outside the EU.

Would Scotland be poorer outside the UK? Almost certainly, but that is only part of the story.

Brexiteers can have no argument with Scotland having a vote for independence. Despite all the nonsense about the "settled will of the British people" nobody knows what Brexit will actually entail, as we plummet towards a hard Brexit, where we are the only major economic power outside of a regional free trade zone. People change their minds which is why we have a general election every five years, and why most countries, wisely, do not allow major constitutional change on the basis of a single popular majority vote. Most of the just over 50% of those who voted in the Brexit referendum did so to regain a sense of lost sovereignty with many saying openly that was more important than economic predictability and stability. Nicola Sturgeon is demanding the same for Scotland so it is hypocritical to say that there shouldn't be another referendum if the Scottish Parliament vote for it - especially if the grounds for that view is that it will make Brexit more uncomfortable for the rest of the UK.

People can hardly argue that the Scots will suffer economically for their independence at least in the short term, when that is true also of the UK leaving the EU. Free trade between the countries of the British Isles is far more a given than the EU letting the UK have access to the Single Market or Customs Union so in those terms alone Scotland would be taking less of an economic risk than the UK is in coming out of the EU.

Are we heading for the break up of the UK?

Very possibly, especially since if Scotland goes it is unlikely that the Irish settlement will remain the same. Scotland is the part of the UK most Northern Irish people identify with most and without Scotland it is just not the same country any more.

Nicola Sturgeon is of course playing politics, in an arguably cynical way, but no more than David Cameron, Nigel Farage, Michael Gove and Boris Johnson did when they laid out their dubious positions for and against Brexit.

Are the people of the UK as a whole getting what they want?

There is a strong feeling for self-determination and Scotland has been far more dominated by England than the UK has been dominated by the EU. The just over half of the voters on the day who voted for Brexit demonstrated how important that was to them and by implication outside England the only country likely to want to remain as part of the UK long term are the Welsh.

On the other side of the coin from sovereignty and self determination is the desire to be separate from others. Brexiteers cannot complain if succession and sovereignty issues become the dominant force in UK politics. That is the genie we have let out of the bottle and having done it, we can't make it go away. Coalition, federalism (in the proper sense of the word not the US political one), internationalism, cooperation and compromise are becoming dirty words.

For my part I think that it is very sad that we are all spinning off into our separate corners. Had I been living in Scotland I would have voted against independence but I would also have voted against Brexit.

We will all be poorer in many more ways than economically if we carry on along this path. I hope the satisfaction that comes from the illusion of controlling our own destinies is worth the fall out. It would be very sad if we all got divorced only to realise that the freedom we sought turned into loneliness, reduced economic means for us and our children, and not having anyone to play with.

It's not a case of their being plenty of fish in the sea. We can't exactly move in with people on the other side of the world and make it work. As an example UK trade with Australia is a few billion compared to something like 65 billion with Germany alone. Our new friends, like Trump's American simply wont fill the economic void.

No wonder Scotland is considering dropping out and trying frantically to stay friends with those who are the closest to us, while the many in the rest of the UK seems hell bent on going it alone, no matter the cost.




WhoreMods -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/15/2017 1:19:42 PM)

Why do people keep talking like wee jimmy krankie/Nicola Sturgeon like she's in charge of anything when Alex Salmond is still running the SNP?




Politesub53 -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/18/2017 5:09:28 PM)

Wickeds....... Your link is four years out of date. [8|]




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