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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/18/2017 5:17:28 PM   
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Here is a more up to date article from last August.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14701901.UK_subsidy_to_Scotland_soars_after_oil_price_slump/

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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/19/2017 5:21:07 AM   
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The absence of a new white paper since the one Salmond produced in 2014 is quite telling, in that light.

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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/19/2017 8:15:39 AM   
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Ah the Krankie reference - I see now. Remember I don't read the papers I source my waffle from the very ether itself - we have that symbiotic relationship: a bit like those debt ravenous Englandshire jackals suckling from the Scottish teat.

Scotland has been propping up Englandshire debt ridden land for many decades. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12332074.Figures_explode_subsidy_myth_Scotland_gave__27bn_more_than_was_received/

That is the singular reason the Tory scum (conservative-party) do not wish Scotland to leave.

Labour do not wish us to leave because Scotland historically contributes most of “their” MP’s to Westminster. Well, that was up until recent times so let’s examine the Scotland vote.

Scotland has 59 parliamentary seats.

56 MP’s - Scottish National Party
1 MP’s - Labour party
1 MP’s - Toryscum
1 MP’s - Libdems

England have money to the tune of fuk all: they are just a nation of self interested parasites

That is before I factor in something called service costs to Jackaland which is currently about 10 billion a year: and they can shove trident up their hairy English arseholes too.


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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/20/2017 12:45:42 PM   
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A well thought out post Wickeds.

I hope you get a second referendum then we will see what ALL of Scotland thinks, not just the Nationalist SNP.

Any claims on the economy Sturgeon and Salmon (pun fully intended) make, sound a bit errr.........fishy.


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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/20/2017 4:08:23 PM   
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quote:

Any claims on the economy Sturgeon and Salmon (pun fully intended) make, sound a bit errr.........fishy.


My word PS, you *are* a scamp and no mistake!

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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/21/2017 8:25:04 AM   
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Me and my 3 cats are insane enough to believe people have free will and the ability to make their preferred choice after weighing up both sides, with reasonable information.

1. I stand by my numbers and I have no need to play the service charge card.
2. The most common argument applied is that there is a budget black hole of ~£10 billion. But what the other side does say their black whole is £100 billion = 10th directly proportional to our population disparity. So that argument should fall down there, or the £100 billion applied back.
3. Scotland would be better off IMO – but here is the thing no-one truly knows for sure….no-one at all. But they would be slightly better off or slightly worse off. Nothing for Scotland to get afeared at, nor the English…that lot can move north and we could start with London – heh never thought I mention the day that lot got it correct.
4. Not a member of the EU was the primary card played – well that or the £10 billion thingie wit no mention of the 90 billion English nugatory
5. Trust me that thing about parliamentary members is correct – so labour always disappointed me the most of all parties as from the UK as a whole they get, well used to, a disproportionate unusually high number from Scotland – so they aint getting into power again, as the tide simply turned.
6. An independent Scotland the SNP party would cease to be, certainly in the current format and would split to labour middle or conservative….almost no-one knows that
7. The happiest/wealthiest nations on earth are all about Scotland size population wise and there is no way the argument of Scotland would not be able to be a country and manage applies.
8. What the UK charges us – in all these figures for eg trident, the army etc I am not entirely sure – I read the other day it was about a 10 billion overcharge..I doubt its as much as that
9. If the English population had to vote they may well vote us out..I would be fine with that :)

I can assure you peonforher I quoted neither Alex Salmond or Nicola Sturgeon

Arguments can be made the press played a part in the first fateful decision - shame on them. Now who owns them?

Did you know that fine daily tabloid the daily Scum (nods at the Liverpudlians), even 15 years ago was screaming vote SNP - this, fox news, was to split the vote in Scotland so those rascals of labour got fewer parliamentary seats which would more likely, than not, enable a Conservative government in the UK for evermore.

And the daily record, owned by the mirror group, played Gordon Browns hand did they not, i really must work what side of the border you be from too.

look i am spellchecking none of this :) as per pretty usual - more so with my longer waffle

But all that aside Politesub53 do you understand what a Scottish nationalist is? - i can assure you I am left of centre and a bit green nor do i hate the "English (your football team is complete shit and we knew that up here 20 years ago)" Brain washed Mind poverty perhaps, i am not so fond off, but all lands have that and mines is no exception.

That reminds me Gordon Brown - came up with a 3rd option he is truly fuking pathetic. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39309133 an unelected, like Theresea May, UK prime minister voted out of office because he was Scottish - an average England mind for you

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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/21/2017 9:41:12 AM   
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We've been over this before: Gordon Brown was not voted out because he Scottish, he was voted out because he was prime minister when the Americans crashed the world economy, because he approved a massive bail out for the banks who'd worsened the situation, and because he had been in charge of the budget under Tony Blair* and had failed to take any measures to fend off the inevitable financial crash that was laying in wait. His scottishness had no bearing on any of that.

*(Who is Scottish, however reluctant the scots might be to claim the fever-eyed moral midget)

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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/21/2017 10:30:30 AM   
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He was voted out because he was Scottish don't make me reach for the big stick. And do you know he was actually okay. Now, John Brown there was a mind I admired..and even I know salmond was to smart for his own good - intelligent man that one.

John Brown, let me check, RIP -John Smith? how easily they fade :( 1994 so long ago i did not realise John Smith

and that welsh ( a nation of dwarves) bastards - Kinnock was it, they are a a fuking nation of leek munchers..running gags are everything. That which is less than everything is nothing.

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RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England - 3/21/2017 12:13:28 PM   
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Tony Blair was Scottish.
Ramsey macDonald was Scottish.
The Earl of Bute was Scottish.
Brown was not voted out for Scottishness.

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