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WickedsDesire -> Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 9:32:54 AM)
First Minister Nicola Sturgeon announces independence referendum will be between Autumn 2018 and Spring 2019 Ms Sturgeon says she will seek Scottish Parliament approval for a second independence referendum next week The franchise and question in the second independence referendum is for the Scottish Parliament to decide says the first minister For those not familiar with politics, especially trump voters, the catalyst for the second Scottish Independence referendum is BREXIT – which is where englandshire muppets voted the UK out of the EU

Musicmystery -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 9:35:37 AM)
Um...I don't think you mean "annexing."

Tkman117 -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 9:48:51 AM)
Yeah annexing is just a fancy word for a take over of another country [:D]

WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 10:25:02 AM)
(shrugs) (Latin ad, to, and nexus, joining) is the political transition of land from the control of one entity to another. That aside we all know I would like to build both walls and hurl buckets of irate piranhas southwards..and dragons....as ive not done a drago clip for ages....dragons are totally real I read that on townhall.com or perhaps that other nut job site..Besides the Roayal arms is a selfie of alion(dragon actually - okay maybe i made that bit up), not to be confused with a kelpie or unicorn- did anyone ever get back to me last week we had the scpttish-thistle, english rose, welsh leek...what weed to the Irish have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_symbols_of_Scotland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelpie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kelpies ah where was I dragons (wifey2 likes dragons) - we would therefore unleash the flock of dragons south wards - so here is a clip from ~~Game of Thrones (Season 6 Episode 9) - Here Be Dragons~~ A Dragon Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjMTBtlmIKQ

WhoreMods -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 11:10:54 AM)
The Welsh have all the dragons. You could unleash a flock of unicorns southwards, I suppose.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 11:18:44 AM)
My illness today meant I got the saltire mixed up with the lion rampant...my google kept returning Saint Andrews cross. Bold move by Nicola... even I know it was the logical move, prophesied this occurrence, but even i didnt think the English so stupid as to vote the United Kingdom out of the EU. but can it be won.

WhoreMods -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 11:26:54 AM)
A bold move? She's been banging on about wanting a second independence referendum since the UK voted to leave the EU. Is there anybody in the country who didn't see this coming?

WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 11:36:51 AM)
Many people did not see it coming ( my twin sister for one and she has a degree in something- and i told her this very afternoon and she replied really - Christ she can be dim at times) and you know fine well it required a catalyst. The move is bold because this is the second time the card has been played in such a short time ;) 1972 aside but I was 2 then. The card cannot be played a third time, least for a decade or two. The polls also got that one wrong..... 55% uk englandshire jackal cock/teat....45% burn it all and launch the piranhas southwards....ah who can forget the remain jackals campaigned on the remain EU, and Gordon Brown what a fuking weasel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 11:51:10 AM)
The problem with fishface and other Scottish MP's is they cannot seem to comprehend a very simple fact. She's been banging on about finding a way to stay in the EU single market. That's just not possible no matter which game they play. The EU have told her straight - she can't be in the EU unless Scotland is an independent sovereign nation; that's a basic condition of joining/being in the EU. If Scotland leaves the UK union, even if we are still in the EU when that happens, they are automatically OUT of the EU because it's the UK that holds EU membership, not Scotland. If they don't get independence by the time the UK leaves, they are OUT of the EU with us. So.... fucked both ways. Scotland will be out of the EU single market whatever happens. There is no mechanism for Scotland to leave the UK and stay in the EU. And, of course, the very second they leave the UK, they need to find a new currency (they can't use the Euro until they are in it) and the Bank of England have clearly stated they can't use the British Pound. And because they can't step away from the UK and straight into the EU, they will have to apply to the EU (independently) to re-join the EU. That could take many many years. Meanwhile, Scotland will be in a limbo - out of the UK and NOT in the EU. And not to mention, Scotland does not have the power to hold a referendum without the consent from parliament in Westminster, UK. The last I heard, PM May isn't keen on granting that referendum until we (the UK) are actually out of the EU.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 12:11:45 PM)
She is prettier than non elected May - granted not much in it. They were told initially before the first election that they would have to rejoin the EU. They were specifically told that by project fear, and a couple of other EU countries that had a bit of separatist movement within - none with our history granted. A common fallacy is this - trade would cease between the EU and the UK.... or trade would cease between Scotland and England - project fear will ramp that one up....They actually played the oil card in 1972ish ( many of those memos/minutes were redacted/national security and some have only now found the light of day....shamefull scumbags My own personally opinion - we all know I would like to see Scotland self govern...fair enough. Do i think we, the UK should have joined the EU nope. Economic area I am fine with. But we are so deeply entrenched there is no easy get out. And a decade of uncertainty/decline awaits perhaps even a generation's worth. (25 years) Our currency is just fine perhaps you lot can go find your fuking own. Scotland will be fast tracked - but personally i hope they chose the economic area I have yet to watch her counter speech it was titled tunnel vision - yet no mention of the remain UK Scotland which was diametrically opposed to the BREXIT one..such is the nature of schizophrenic scum pushing their own agendas..flip flop

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 12:33:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire She is prettier than non elected May - granted not much in it. They were told initially before the first election that they would have to rejoin the EU. They were specifically told that by project fear, and a couple of other EU countries that had a bit of separatist movement within - none with our history granted. Ummmm..... No. They were told categorically by the European Parliament by none other than Jean-Claude Junker that they would have to re-join; not by project fear. quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire A common fallacy is this - trade would cease between the EU and the UK.... or trade would cease between Scotland and England - project fear will ramp that one up....They actually played the oil card in 1972ish ( many of those memos/minutes were redacted/national security and some have only now found the light of day....shamefull scumbags Trade won't stop. What it won't be is on the same zero-tariff agreement we currently have with the EU as part of being an EU member. Whether we can negotiate a new agreement on tariffs before the clock runs out or end up with WTO rules is something we won't know until that time comes. quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire My own personally opinion - we all know I would like to see Scotland self govern...fair enough. Do i think we, the UK should have joined the EU nope. I was a teenager when that happened. As a "Common Market" it worked for about 25 years. When the EU brought out the single currency and started the march towards fiscal and political union, it doesn't work for us any more and we don't want it. quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire Economic area I am fine with. But we are so deeply entrenched there is no easy get out. And a decade of uncertainty/decline awaits perhaps even a generation's worth. (25 years) There is a very easy and simple get-out. All we need to do is pass a new law that current EU laws that are encompassed within UK laws will remain as UK laws and we can do that at the same time that we revoke the 1972 European Agreement. That would stop all of the nonsense about workers rights etc yada yada yada. After that, we can slowly unpick the bits we no longer want at our leisure and amend the laws - like some of those stoopid food rules. quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire Our currency is just fine perhaps you lot can go find your fuking own. Scotland will be fast tracked - but personally i hope they chose the economic area Scotland does not have it's own independant currency. It has Scotland on its notes but it is British Pounds. You would need to make your own currency. quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire I have yet to watch her counter speech it was titled tunnel vision - yet no mention of the remain UK Scotland which was diametrically opposed to the BREXIT one..such is the nature of schizophrenic scum pushing their own agendas..flip flop I've not heard any counter-speech either. Fishface seems to be hell-bent on Scottish independence at any cost.

PeonForHer -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 12:55:26 PM)
quote: Fishface seems to be hell-bent on Scottish independence at any cost. Quite like toadface Farage and his supporters were hell-bent on British independence from the EU at any cost, then.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 12:57:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: Fishface seems to be hell-bent on Scottish independence at any cost. Quite like toadface Farage and his supporters were hell-bent on British independence from the EU at any cost, then. I think we were right to vote for brexit for a number of very good reasons. I don't see that fishface has many good reasons for independence. Even many of her own MSP's are saying she's fanatical about it.

PeonForHer -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 1:11:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 I don't see that fishface has many good reasons for independence. Even many of her own MSP's are saying she's fanatical about it. Eh? There are a lot of reasons for Scottish independence that go back hundreds of years! This latest balls up of England voting for Brexit and overruling Scotland's desires is just the latest example of 'Only-England-Counts' for a lot of Scots.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 1:34:13 PM)
You know i dislike quotes FW for they are a measure of waste of space...something you excel at. You know I dislike untruths and poverty of brain even more so. By we you mean englandshire jackals with faulty brain sprockets? Do you believe anything i said was lies, or fake news, or very fake news?..that aside why do you care whether we remain part of feeble minded Well played 6packmalarkey

WhoreMods -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 1:38:52 PM)
That said: it would be interesting to see how an independent Scottish economy is supposed to work now that the oil industry has demonstrated that it's not up to the job of floating the whole thing. There hasn't been one word about that from Hollyrood as yet, despite all of the demands for a second referendum. Maybe wee jimmy krankie could spend the next eighteen months working something out for that?

PeonForHer -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 2:07:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods That said: it would be interesting to see how an independent Scottish economy is supposed to work now that the oil industry has demonstrated that it's not up to the job of floating the whole thing. There hasn't been one word about that from Hollyrood as yet, despite all of the demands for a second referendum. Maybe wee jimmy krankie could spend the next eighteen months working something out for that? Lordy. I've just thought: Can you imagine ... all the big financial operators of the City of London moving up to Glasgow or Edinburgh? I mean ... why would they stick around in London after Brexit, if a now-independent Scotland is still part of the EU? I've read in the past of these big financial operators moving from the City of London to e.g. Brussels - but why bother with that, if somewhere in an English-speaking part of the British Isles is available?

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 2:37:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 I don't see that fishface has many good reasons for independence. Even many of her own MSP's are saying she's fanatical about it. Eh? There are a lot of reasons for Scottish independence that go back hundreds of years! This latest balls up of England voting for Brexit and overruling Scotland's desires is just the latest example of 'Only-England-Counts' for a lot of Scots. When you are a small subset of a much bigger group, you have to accept the majority vote of everyone in the whole club, not just your little group. And I don't consider brexit to be a balls-up either; I welcome it. And I think when people realise just how much good, decent, very edible food is wasted because it doesn't meet 'EU standards' they will be just as disgusted as I was. 60 million tons of perfectly good parsnips are dumped every year because of stoopid EU rules. I am fucking sick to the back teeth of the EU dictating that certain food has to be a uniform shape/weight/size otherwise it cannot be sold. So what if the cauli is too big, or the carrots have an odd twist or an extra leg, or the fucking cucumber has more than a 5 degree bend in it, or the tomato isn't perfectly round (anyone remember Gurnsey Uglies?)?? It's all perfectly good food to eat but the EU won't allow us to sell it because it doesn't fit their regulations; they have to be dumped. Cox's Orange Pippins are a really good sweet apple and ideal for kids. We've had to spend years cross-pollinating to grow bigger versions to fit EU regulations to be able to sell them and they aren't the same any more. We have some of the best fishing grounds around the UK yet we are shackled by quotas because we have to let all the other EU countries fish within our waters - it has all but decimated our fishing industry. And that's just a couple of examples of EU regulation shambles that has slowly strangled us. It is good that we can now control our borders, our laws, immigration, fishing rights etc. quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer ....I've read in the past of these big financial operators moving from the City of London to e.g. Brussels - but why bother with that, if somewhere in an English-speaking part of the British Isles is available? Do you honestly think anyone in Scotland speaks comprehendable English?? I can't understand what 90% of anyone north of Watford Gap says and the Scots are even worse.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 4:55:53 PM)
WM and PFH brains I almost admire...why you two are on this place escapes me...Me! I am a sad olde loon with 3 cats who likes to ramble unto myself and I am the last of my kind let me assure you all of that. One day I will be gone - you both know this right? HB you too waffle aside why hellow FW

Greta75 -> RE: Scotland to vote on annexing England (3/13/2017 4:58:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire Bold move by Nicola... even I know it was the logical move, prophesied this occurrence, but even i didnt think the English so stupid as to vote the United Kingdom out of the EU. Huh? You seriously think Scotland can survive without the UK?

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